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sonoranrat
October 16, 2022 at 07:57:24 PM
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Larson is a big, brave man when he is in the protection of his racecar.  He will "move" or wreck anyone.  However, he is quite the runner when confronted outside a racecare for his actions.  His running from Bubba Wallace was hysterical. 




BStrawser26
October 16, 2022 at 08:06:36 PM
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Larson is a big, brave man when he is in the protection of his racecar.  He will "move" or wreck anyone.  However, he is quite the runner when confronted outside a racecare for his actions.  His running from Bubba Wallace was hysterical. 



Bubba should have a suspension or fine coming for wrecking someone on purpose.  With all the head injuries that have been happening.  What does he expect? If he isn't lifting why should Kyle?  The first contact was a racing incident, when Bubba took Larson out on purpose that was dead wrong!  Bubba and should put a plow on the front of his car.  


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larsonfan
October 16, 2022 at 08:13:27 PM
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Posted By: sonoranrat on October 16 2022 at 07:57:24 PM

Larson is a big, brave man when he is in the protection of his racecar.  He will "move" or wreck anyone.  However, he is quite the runner when confronted outside a racecare for his actions.  His running from Bubba Wallace was hysterical. 



Think before you post.....So Larson throws a punch or reacts in some other way physically, guess who they are going to lower the hammer on? It certainly wouldn't be douchebag Wallace. His actions, and even worse, his words afterwards were dangerous and disgraceful. He doesn't even belong in a 4 cylinder on some hole in the wall asphalt or dirt track.

Hope he is suspended for the remainder of the season, but I'm not going to hold my breath.




egras
October 16, 2022 at 08:15:12 PM
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Posted By: sonoranrat on October 16 2022 at 07:57:24 PM

Larson is a big, brave man when he is in the protection of his racecar.  He will "move" or wreck anyone.  However, he is quite the runner when confronted outside a racecare for his actions.  His running from Bubba Wallace was hysterical. 



I never understood what beating someone up proves-----especially when the attacker is 50% larger than the victim.  We should be talking about how intelligent Kyle was for not responding.  If Kyle were a boxer and he ran out of the ring, then you have a story.  He's a racecar driver------so why would physical confrontation matter?  (I know, I know----back in the day blah blah blah---didn't change a thing)



Murphy
October 16, 2022 at 08:20:12 PM
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I thought the two were friends? Does that change if you're in a roller derby?



hiroshimacarp
October 16, 2022 at 08:27:07 PM
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This message was edited on October 17, 2022 at 06:49:12 AM by hiroshimacarp

i figured there would be a topic about this since bubba wallace was involved.  i wasn't disappointed...although i'm glad to see the first post put some blame on larson.  there's been nonsense going on like this all year in nascar but it invovled the black guy so people from the dirt world who pretended not to care about "nascrap" like kevin swindell are jumping in with their opinion on twitter.  he said something like bubba didn't earn his ride.  he must have missed bubba's win this year...or all the other no name white drivers in nascar like the dillon brothers who REALLY did nothing to earn their rides.

i'm not defending what bubba did.  it's a bad look to be honest.  true colors come out though when you're not upset with other people who do similar things.

larson has been hard to figure out this year.  he's made some pretty baffling mistakes like what happened today, hitting the wall randomly at the roval, and apparently just missing turn 1 at the indy road course.  his team hasn't done him any favors.  chase elliott always whines when he gets raced hard and larson ends up having to apologize.  the appeal of the byron suspension inadvertently knocked larson out of the playoffs.  i can see a day in the not too distant future where he decides the "nascrap" isn't worth putting up with any more.  




larsonfan
October 16, 2022 at 08:48:53 PM
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Posted By: hiroshimacarp on October 16 2022 at 08:27:07 PM

i figured there would be a topic about this since bubba wallace was involved.  i wasn't disappointed...although i'm glad to see the first post put some blame on larson.  there's been nonsense going on like this all year in nascar but it invovled the black guy so people from the dirt world who pretended not to care about "nascrap" like kevin swindell are jumping in with their opinion on twitter.  he said something like bubba didn't earn his ride.  he must have missed bubba's win this year...or all the other no name white drivers in nascar like the dillon brothers who REALLY did nothing to earn their rides.

i'm not defending what bubba did.  it's a bad look to be honest.  true colors come out though when you're not upset with other people who do similar things.

larson has been hard to figure out this year.  he's made some pretty baffling mistakes like what happened today, hitting the wall randomly at the roval, and apparently just missing turn 1 at the indy road course.  his team hasn't done him any favors.  chase elliott always whines when he gets raced hard and larson ends up having to apologize.  the appeal of the byron suspension inadvertently knocked larson out of the playoffs.  i can see a day in the not too distant future where he decides the "nascrap" isn't worth putting up with any more.  



Thank you for proving my point from earlier. That's why I said had Larson defended himself in any way, he would be the bad guy. Kudos for being the first to pull out the race card....smh.



moparfarmer
October 16, 2022 at 11:28:53 PM
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Can't touch NASCAR's boy..He should be suspended or fined at least $200,000..



hardon
October 16, 2022 at 11:30:32 PM
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Posted By: hiroshimacarp on October 16 2022 at 08:27:07 PM

i figured there would be a topic about this since bubba wallace was involved.  i wasn't disappointed...although i'm glad to see the first post put some blame on larson.  there's been nonsense going on like this all year in nascar but it invovled the black guy so people from the dirt world who pretended not to care about "nascrap" like kevin swindell are jumping in with their opinion on twitter.  he said something like bubba didn't earn his ride.  he must have missed bubba's win this year...or all the other no name white drivers in nascar like the dillon brothers who REALLY did nothing to earn their rides.

i'm not defending what bubba did.  it's a bad look to be honest.  true colors come out though when you're not upset with other people who do similar things.

larson has been hard to figure out this year.  he's made some pretty baffling mistakes like what happened today, hitting the wall randomly at the roval, and apparently just missing turn 1 at the indy road course.  his team hasn't done him any favors.  chase elliott always whines when he gets raced hard and larson ends up having to apologize.  the appeal of the byron suspension inadvertently knocked larson out of the playoffs.  i can see a day in the not too distant future where he decides the "nascrap" isn't worth putting up with any more.  



Personally I think Wallace gets a bad rap most of the time.  I don't think he's in cup because of his race.  He's won a couple of cup races which I'm sure is more than anyone on this board has, so I don't think anyone on here is capable of judging his talent.

 

However this is just my opinion.  Bubba is claiming he "got shoved into the fence intentionally".  However when I watch the replay I see the 2 cars didn't make contact until AFTER Bubba got into the wall.  When I think of "got shoved into the fence intentionally" I picture Wallace in the wall with Larson slammed into him on the other side.  It's hard for me to say he "got shoved into the fence intentionally" if they didn't make contact before he hits the wall, it looks to me like Bubba drove into the wall on his own.  Maybe if he had lifted a little instead of being so proud of not lifting, he might not have hit the wall?  Larson is an aggressive driver but I wouldn't call him dirty.  Once Bubba watches the replays I think he will realize it wasn't as bad as he initially thought.  However ALL of his actions after the fact are completely unacceptable.  But no he doesn't deserve a suspension.  Retaliation has happened for years in all kinds of racing and rarely results in a suspension.  For NASCAR to claim that now isn't a good time for retaliation because of the safety status of the car would not be a good look for NASCAR.  Because if this car isn't safe enough for retaliation, it really shouldn't be on the track.  And shoving has happened for years without suspensions.  Also I believe Larson handled everything right, nothing positive was going to come out of him retaliating.

 

Typically I feel kind of bad for Bubba because he gets such a bad rap but his actions today were 100% wrong in my opinion.  As far as Larson's performance this year, I think he's trying too hard sometimes.  For the most part this car is a joke.  So much of the racing this year has been out of the driver's hands.  Whoever wins the championship this year, it's going to be mostly because of luck.  How funny would it be if in the final 4 race the last 4 drivers didn't finish because of car failure?




turn4guy
October 17, 2022 at 12:24:27 AM
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He won't be suspended because black lives matter 



longtimefan
October 17, 2022 at 04:50:01 AM
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Posted By: sonoranrat on October 16 2022 at 07:57:24 PM

Larson is a big, brave man when he is in the protection of his racecar.  He will "move" or wreck anyone.  However, he is quite the runner when confronted outside a racecare for his actions.  His running from Bubba Wallace was hysterical. 



I can tell you that I am not a Larson fan at all because I think he puts a lot of sprint car guys in a position where they have to lift or wreck. In this case I watched the replay several times and could not where he hit Bubba. He was close but I could not see contact. In my opinion Bubba should have some real punishment coming. An no, I don't give shit about NASCAR and have not watched a race in years.  I saw the replay on facebook.



Dryslick Willie
October 17, 2022 at 04:58:57 AM
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Posted By: sonoranrat on October 16 2022 at 07:57:24 PM

Larson is a big, brave man when he is in the protection of his racecar.  He will "move" or wreck anyone.  However, he is quite the runner when confronted outside a racecare for his actions.  His running from Bubba Wallace was hysterical. 



Yeah, a guy who's been suspended for making a racial slur punching a black guy...that would be extremely smart wouldn't it? 




hiroshimacarp
October 17, 2022 at 06:57:37 AM
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Posted By: hardon on October 16 2022 at 11:30:32 PM

Personally I think Wallace gets a bad rap most of the time.  I don't think he's in cup because of his race.  He's won a couple of cup races which I'm sure is more than anyone on this board has, so I don't think anyone on here is capable of judging his talent.

 

However this is just my opinion.  Bubba is claiming he "got shoved into the fence intentionally".  However when I watch the replay I see the 2 cars didn't make contact until AFTER Bubba got into the wall.  When I think of "got shoved into the fence intentionally" I picture Wallace in the wall with Larson slammed into him on the other side.  It's hard for me to say he "got shoved into the fence intentionally" if they didn't make contact before he hits the wall, it looks to me like Bubba drove into the wall on his own.  Maybe if he had lifted a little instead of being so proud of not lifting, he might not have hit the wall?  Larson is an aggressive driver but I wouldn't call him dirty.  Once Bubba watches the replays I think he will realize it wasn't as bad as he initially thought.  However ALL of his actions after the fact are completely unacceptable.  But no he doesn't deserve a suspension.  Retaliation has happened for years in all kinds of racing and rarely results in a suspension.  For NASCAR to claim that now isn't a good time for retaliation because of the safety status of the car would not be a good look for NASCAR.  Because if this car isn't safe enough for retaliation, it really shouldn't be on the track.  And shoving has happened for years without suspensions.  Also I believe Larson handled everything right, nothing positive was going to come out of him retaliating.

 

Typically I feel kind of bad for Bubba because he gets such a bad rap but his actions today were 100% wrong in my opinion.  As far as Larson's performance this year, I think he's trying too hard sometimes.  For the most part this car is a joke.  So much of the racing this year has been out of the driver's hands.  Whoever wins the championship this year, it's going to be mostly because of luck.  How funny would it be if in the final 4 race the last 4 drivers didn't finish because of car failure?



larson ran him into the wall.  no doubt bubba should have been upset.  i'm not sure what triggered him to get that upset though.

like you said...he gets a bad rap because of his background and essentially has to be perfect.  he doesn't seem to be enjoying himself in any of the interviews i hear with him.  it would be hard to.  i saw a poll somewhere that's he one of if not the most hated driver in nascar.  we all know why and i'm usually one of the last people to play the race card.  yesterday was the first time recently and definitely with the 23xi that he's crossed any significant lines like intentionally wrecking someone.  i remember him getting wrecked at bristol and dropping off his bumper with at michael mcdowell's hauler...which would have made him a hero if he was anybody else.

it's going to be this week's bit of drama in nascar.  i don't want f1 where they're back to nothing happening...but it's hard to argue against nascar becoming pro wrestling at least in the sense that it's a male oriented daytime soap opera.  it always amazes me how the top guys in the woo can run completely clean and not run over each other.  



JonR
October 17, 2022 at 06:59:29 AM
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I remember watching an interview with Kyle Larson in the past when the topic of retaliation/ getting into a fight was brought up.   Kyle laughed and said,   "I am 5 foot and 7 inches  and weigh 140 pounds.   Trying to get into a fight is not going to work out well for me."   



saphead
October 17, 2022 at 07:23:36 AM
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I think the main issue here is that Wallace is just such an enormous unlikeable douche. 




BStrawser26
October 17, 2022 at 07:25:05 AM
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Posted By: longtimefan on October 17 2022 at 04:50:01 AM

I can tell you that I am not a Larson fan at all because I think he puts a lot of sprint car guys in a position where they have to lift or wreck. In this case I watched the replay several times and could not where he hit Bubba. He was close but I could not see contact. In my opinion Bubba should have some real punishment coming. An no, I don't give shit about NASCAR and have not watched a race in years.  I saw the replay on facebook.



That is correct Bubba hit him after bouncing off the wall.  Then he ran over laron on purpose.  What a loser Bubba is.

 

 


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racinfool
October 17, 2022 at 07:34:42 AM
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Don't forget that Bubba is the NASCAR TOKEN!!!



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Posted By: egras on October 16 2022 at 08:15:12 PM

I never understood what beating someone up proves-----especially when the attacker is 50% larger than the victim.  We should be talking about how intelligent Kyle was for not responding.  If Kyle were a boxer and he ran out of the ring, then you have a story.  He's a racecar driver------so why would physical confrontation matter?  (I know, I know----back in the day blah blah blah---didn't change a thing)



it all depends on the name.  If it's Kyle Larson avoiding confrontation everything up to throwing a bike before running is acceptable.  If the first name is Aaron running is not allowed.  The fun part is sitting back watching everyone argue about the incident.  This will be a lively discussion.


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October 17, 2022 at 08:22:28 AM
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News this morning said both drivers would gace penalties?? Why would Larson get penalized?



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October 17, 2022 at 08:43:29 AM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on October 17 2022 at 07:25:05 AM

That is correct Bubba hit him after bouncing off the wall.  Then he ran over laron on purpose.  What a loser Bubba is.

 

 



Moral of the story is that both cars should finished the race. If one of them had any control over his emotions and at least saved the confrontaion until after the race. 





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