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Probably because even though there wasn't contact Bubba was crying the blues....so they have to give both penalties, because Bubba couldn't control his temper.  I go back to my statement.  Bubba is an idiot!

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100 percent agree. I was about to post the same thing. All the tough guys on the board suddenly have turned into philosophers thinking "why can't we all just get along?". 

I think that it is just lazy journalism.   All drivers are suspectable to face penalties on Tuesday because NASCAR issues all penalties on Tuesday.   Huge difference on who actually receives the penalties.  

Ok since I like both of these guys and do not have some stupid underlying hatred of one or the other for no logical reason, I'll through my useless opinion into the hat like everyone else's useless opinon. 

Larson did put Wallace in the wall. Was it intentional? No. It was not a move where he went, "theres Bubba Wallace and I am going to get around him or put him in the all or else." He was trying to make a pass and was not able to control the car throughout the whole pass. Wallace was in the wrong place at the wrong time and is entitled to have room on the track. All drivers have done this at some point. Its called a mistake, and something that all of us have done in our professional careers. Only difference is we do not have millions of idiots who have no clue how to do what we do getting on their keyboards pointing it out to us as if they did know how to do what we do. 

After this, yes Wallace did hook Larson and intentionally wreck him. Yes he was angry, emotional over being wronged but no its no excuse. Not because it is Kyle Larson or anyone or the guy who put him in the wall but by doing so and sending another car up onto the racetrack he is endagering not only both of them, but all other drivers that are behind them on the track. He essentially did what was done to him, to everyone else behind them and Christopher Bell was the unfortuante person. 

Now I have always been one who does not over react to physical confrontation and in some cases I have said that it is warranted sometimes when it appears a message is not getting through to someone. And I get Wallace being angry however, watching the video Larson does not initally appear to be walking away from Wallace. In fact at the beginning he seems to take a step forward as if he is willing to discuss it which is completely opposite of what Lagano, Busch and Keselowski have done in the past in which I have said if you can't take a punch to the mouth then don't do the crap on the track. If the person is willing to talk to you and possibly take ownership of his actions then it is completely different. And when Wallace goes after Larson, Kyle seems to just seperate himself from the conflict in a non violent manner. Almost in a way of saying ok I was willing to talk to you but if you are going to do that then I am done. I really do not consider what Larson did as cowardly or running away but simply I going to protect myself and deescalate this. 

I am not a Bubba Wallace hater like 90% of people and I think some of the hatred is misguided because so many click bait wanna be journalists seek him out to ask his opinion on everything under the sun that has nothing to do with racing because they know that it is going to get clicks and ratings so that they can sale advertising. I do not put that on him or his opinion as much as I put it on everyone else for clicking and posting the stuff only for it to start a cycle. However with this, he gets what he gets. I am not in the suspension crowd as I think that is an overraction in of itself as well but if he gets one so be it. If he doesn't then fine, he will get booed like he always does and Nascar will continue its inconsistent trend of rules enforcement where it looks like they make this stuff up as they go.

It was clearly an attack on the Asian community and should not be tolerated. 

I don't watch this Nascar anymore but I did see a replay on twitter. Bubba "should" get fined for his actions for sure. Glad Larson didn't do anything stupid or he would too. 

One positive note about Bubba, he earned his spot in the Cup series way more than that Danica character did.. Not even close.

1) Bubba was wrong in retaliating with his car at speed. All drivers would be better to follow the Hewitt rule of popping him in the nose in the pits afterward if you feel the need to retaliate.

2) Those of you criticizing Bubba for his attitude...in some ways I can't say that I blame him. I went to the MIS NASCAR race this past August and was disgusted at the way some fans talked about him in the stands. It's the first time I've heard the n-word used in a derogatory way (by multiple people no less) in a very long time. All the redneck "NASCAR's gone woke" blame is being heaped on him and I'm sure its a heavy weight to bare. 

Hardly a week goes by without a couple of drivers jawing at each other over something.  Next week it will be something else and I'll give it the five seconds of attention it deserves.  

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Tempted to look up the video...nah don't care that much.

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I shake my head at those that post that say Bubba nor Danica deserved to  be in cup what a joke you all are if you think that way!    

I agree with you 100% about #1. Why take it out on the car owners, pit crew, and shop personal who had nothing to do with it. Maybe not right then but back at the haulers out of public view. Also it took somebody else out in the process. As for #2, don't know but I can about imagine.

I have a question for everyone here.  But let me explain first.  There are some people here that think that Larson put Wallace in the wall, even Wallace thinks that.  In my opinion, since Larson never touched Wallace BEFORE Wallace ran into the wall, I don't think Larson put him in the wall.  Did Larson make it more difficult for Wallace?  Yes I would agree with that, but I stand by my opinion that if they didn't make contact BEFORE Wallace hit the wall, that's on Bubba to not drive into the wall.  But back to my question, I agree Larson made it difficult for Bubba to make the exit, but what is your guy's opinions on slide jobs?  Personally I've always hated them but they seem to be accepted this day and age.  I realize in a perfectly executed slide job that the car passing is going to have the other car cleared but they are also making it tough on the driver they are passing since they know they are going to have to either let off or run into the back of them.  What's your guy's thoughts?

First off, I don't think you have to actually make contact in these cars to run someone into the wall. With the aero packages on these cars you can run someone into the wall just by getting close to them on the side on the exit of corners. Its been explained that there's a cusshion off air on the side draft that will push a car into the wall without even making contact. 

As far as slide jobs, I have no problem with them as long as the car executing it gives the other car room to cross over. A true slide job means you clear the car ahead. I do have a problem with sliders where they just throw it into the corner and push up without actually clearing the other car. 

They should have both finished the race and Bell able to continue in the pursuit of the Cup race. At this level Bubba action or reaction is unacceptable. For some reason when Bubba is involved  the rope pull and confederate flag issues seem to surface.Under no circumstances is using your car to vent frustrations acceptable plus getting out of car on track,shoving official. or physical altercation. the days of Cale and Bobby are history!

First, Larson never touched him. Second, if Bubba could actually drive a race car he may have been able to save it.  That word aero is what caused that wreck. I really wonder if Bubba had control of his car when he hit Larson, or if it was any other car he was going to hit. As for the punishment, well let's go nascrap, it was all on TV for all to see.  Bubba wanted Kyle to  do something then the media would have been bringing back his comments that got him suspended and Bubbling Bubba's actions would have been ignored.  Nascrap, what a joke that dog and pony show has become. 

I am surprised anybody is really watching nascar anymore. How many here saw a news headline, saw larson was involved in something, then youtubed the video.

Glad to see Nascar suspend him for a race.  It could and maybe should have been more.

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I haven't watched a single lap of NASCAR the last two seasons.   In my case I was already watching YouTube and noticed a highlight video of it.  

In the words of Clint Eastwood, "deserves got nothing to do with it."

You only need 2 of the following 3 to make it to Nascar:  incredible talent, tons of family money, and/or incredible marketability.  Kyle and Bubba both had 2 of the 3 when they got into Nascar----though, they only share the marketability.  

I watched the video. Bubba hit the wall before any contact with Larson, & he had no right to wreck Kyle in "retaliation" (for what?)

As for the "fight", it was just Bubba pushing Kyle & Kyle kept his cool by walking ( NOT running) away. Maybe Bubba has something against Kyle for his stupid remark a few years ago. I'm sure he's put up with lots of racist crap in NASCAR over the years, & a little dude from Cali is a much easier target than the whole damn Confederacy...

NASCAR sucks