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dirtracefan21
January 17, 2022 at 08:39:03 PM
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Has anybody released or seen any of the paint schemes for 2022?


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glhayden
January 18, 2022 at 11:24:18 AM
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no



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https://mobile.twitter.com/RudeenRacing/status/1469355373698043904?cxt=HHwWgMCqoa27meQoAAAA
 

Eliason. Typical Rudeen scheme, little more white than previous years.



WingedSpeed
January 18, 2022 at 05:51:08 PM
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Posted By: dirtracefan21 on January 17 2022 at 08:39:03 PM

Has anybody released or seen any of the paint schemes for 2022?



Seen one today of Macri's 39m



sprintfanatic
January 20, 2022 at 01:07:54 PM
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Update from David Gravel, but not much on the actual paint scheme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY-N8rsrFys



glhayden
January 20, 2022 at 04:44:55 PM
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Posted By: sprintfanatic on January 20 2022 at 01:07:54 PM

Update from David Gravel, but not much on the actual paint scheme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY-N8rsrFys



I watched it, and it is amazing to me the amount of $$ being spent on that team by Mr. Quiting (and I'm certain by other top 5-6-7 WoO teams). 5 brand new cars being assembled, plus a 6th "used" one from 2021 that Gravel referred to as a "rainy day car" (which I took to mean if the other ones all get wadded up, it would be ready to go in the hauler). All brand new carbon fiber bodies. All new Weld wheels. I just don't see how a local, or even a regional racer could even dream of keeping up with a team with kind of $$. Don't misunderstand me, I'm happy for Gravel and thankful for men like Todd Quiring. But at the same time I really feel sorry for guys like Kraig Kinser, or Brock Zearfoss having to try to claw their way into winning a race here and there (which Kraig last did over 2 years ago and Zearfoss I don't think has yet done) on a "beer budget" while the top tier teams are feasting on a "wine & cheese" kind of budget. Again I'm not anti-big $$ teams in the WoO, but I will be buying a tee shirt from the aforementioned two other teams this year...and then cheerfully asking them to offer it to someone less financially able as I don't wear tee shirts any more (no pockets for my spectacles).



dirtracefan21
January 20, 2022 at 05:57:33 PM
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Posted By: glhayden on January 20 2022 at 04:44:55 PM

I watched it, and it is amazing to me the amount of $$ being spent on that team by Mr. Quiting (and I'm certain by other top 5-6-7 WoO teams). 5 brand new cars being assembled, plus a 6th "used" one from 2021 that Gravel referred to as a "rainy day car" (which I took to mean if the other ones all get wadded up, it would be ready to go in the hauler). All brand new carbon fiber bodies. All new Weld wheels. I just don't see how a local, or even a regional racer could even dream of keeping up with a team with kind of $$. Don't misunderstand me, I'm happy for Gravel and thankful for men like Todd Quiring. But at the same time I really feel sorry for guys like Kraig Kinser, or Brock Zearfoss having to try to claw their way into winning a race here and there (which Kraig last did over 2 years ago and Zearfoss I don't think has yet done) on a "beer budget" while the top tier teams are feasting on a "wine & cheese" kind of budget. Again I'm not anti-big $$ teams in the WoO, but I will be buying a tee shirt from the aforementioned two other teams this year...and then cheerfully asking them to offer it to someone less financially able as I don't wear tee shirts any more (no pockets for my spectacles).



You'd be surprised what guys like Kraig Kinser and Brock Zearfoss put into their programs. They aren't hurting by any means. Do they have top-of-the-line, latest greatest stuff? No, probably not. But they sure aren't hurting like you say they are. I'd bet money that Steve dumps a lot in Kraig's program along with the Dumesny's who Kraig dates their daughter Michaela. The Dumesny's are the Australian version of the United States' Kinser family.

Those kinds of people is what the World of Outlaws is all about. You love rooting for those guys because they like the "beer budget"! They are just happy and content going track to track, racing for a living, making a few bucks here and there, and making new fans along the way. I'd put Jason Sides right in that group too. Jason, Kraig, and Brock are just "good ole boys" you like to root for. They can drive and when put on a smaller track that doesn't require all the horsepower that huge half miles require from $80k engines, those guys do just fine.

But none of them are hurting for money and no, I don't feel sorry for them. They are truly doing what they love to do!


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glhayden
January 20, 2022 at 06:37:07 PM
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Posted By: dirtracefan21 on January 20 2022 at 05:57:33 PM

You'd be surprised what guys like Kraig Kinser and Brock Zearfoss put into their programs. They aren't hurting by any means. Do they have top-of-the-line, latest greatest stuff? No, probably not. But they sure aren't hurting like you say they are. I'd bet money that Steve dumps a lot in Kraig's program along with the Dumesny's who Kraig dates their daughter Michaela. The Dumesny's are the Australian version of the United States' Kinser family.

Those kinds of people is what the World of Outlaws is all about. You love rooting for those guys because they like the "beer budget"! They are just happy and content going track to track, racing for a living, making a few bucks here and there, and making new fans along the way. I'd put Jason Sides right in that group too. Jason, Kraig, and Brock are just "good ole boys" you like to root for. They can drive and when put on a smaller track that doesn't require all the horsepower that huge half miles require from $80k engines, those guys do just fine.

But none of them are hurting for money and no, I don't feel sorry for them. They are truly doing what they love to do!



I may or may not be surprised at what Kraig & Brock (and Jason Sides too) put into their programs. But comparatively speaking with Gravel's team (and the other top 5-6 teams) I'm simply opinioning that there's a huge $$ difference which equates to finishing order on the track. I'm not arguing that Kraig, Brock & Jason aren't enjoying what they do. I've met Kraig & Jason and they don't seem to be in dire financial straits. They'll all likely pull into Volusia with 3 cars each in the hauler just like Gravel & Co. But I doubt if those teams are stocked full of all brand new equipment from top to bottom. Could one of 'em win a race or two this year? I certainly hope so. And I hope Gravel wins a championship with Tod Quiring. But will Kraig or Brock or Jason ever win a championship? Not likely. But I know one thing for certain; each of their tee shirt sales will definitely increase by one this year. And I'll enjoy watching every driver take to the track in hopes of a safe, competitive race(es).



glhayden
January 20, 2022 at 07:16:47 PM
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Posted By: glhayden on January 20 2022 at 06:37:07 PM

I may or may not be surprised at what Kraig & Brock (and Jason Sides too) put into their programs. But comparatively speaking with Gravel's team (and the other top 5-6 teams) I'm simply opinioning that there's a huge $$ difference which equates to finishing order on the track. I'm not arguing that Kraig, Brock & Jason aren't enjoying what they do. I've met Kraig & Jason and they don't seem to be in dire financial straits. They'll all likely pull into Volusia with 3 cars each in the hauler just like Gravel & Co. But I doubt if those teams are stocked full of all brand new equipment from top to bottom. Could one of 'em win a race or two this year? I certainly hope so. And I hope Gravel wins a championship with Tod Quiring. But will Kraig or Brock or Jason ever win a championship? Not likely. But I know one thing for certain; each of their tee shirt sales will definitely increase by one this year. And I'll enjoy watching every driver take to the track in hopes of a safe, competitive race(es).



Footnote: I did not say that Kraig, Brock (or Sides) were "hurting" (meaning struggling to stay on the WoO tour). I said they were clawing (struggling) to win an occasional race.



alum.427
January 20, 2022 at 07:19:10 PM
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They all drank from the Bobby Allen fountain. There is no one better than the shark himself on knowing were to save money.



RodinCanada
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January 20, 2022 at 07:33:15 PM
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The amount of cars and newness of the wheels does tell a story but if a guy has $200,000 to spend and he builds 2 cars isnt it quite reasonable to think those 2 cars have beter parts than the cars built by a guy who has $300,000 and builds 5 cars? I'm just saying the size of the shop isn't the reason you get to wing dance.


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Murphy
January 20, 2022 at 08:46:08 PM
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Posted By: glhayden on January 20 2022 at 06:37:07 PM

I may or may not be surprised at what Kraig & Brock (and Jason Sides too) put into their programs. But comparatively speaking with Gravel's team (and the other top 5-6 teams) I'm simply opinioning that there's a huge $$ difference which equates to finishing order on the track. I'm not arguing that Kraig, Brock & Jason aren't enjoying what they do. I've met Kraig & Jason and they don't seem to be in dire financial straits. They'll all likely pull into Volusia with 3 cars each in the hauler just like Gravel & Co. But I doubt if those teams are stocked full of all brand new equipment from top to bottom. Could one of 'em win a race or two this year? I certainly hope so. And I hope Gravel wins a championship with Tod Quiring. But will Kraig or Brock or Jason ever win a championship? Not likely. But I know one thing for certain; each of their tee shirt sales will definitely increase by one this year. And I'll enjoy watching every driver take to the track in hopes of a safe, competitive race(es).



I think Kraig Kinser is doing alright. He will have at least one Knoxville Nationals win by the time he retires. 



glhayden
January 20, 2022 at 09:41:11 PM
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Posted By: RodinCanada on January 20 2022 at 07:33:15 PM

The amount of cars and newness of the wheels does tell a story but if a guy has $200,000 to spend and he builds 2 cars isnt it quite reasonable to think those 2 cars have beter parts than the cars built by a guy who has $300,000 and builds 5 cars? I'm just saying the size of the shop isn't the reason you get to wing dance.



Size of the shop? Who said anything about that? 

 

Oh, and whether it be $200,000 or $300,000, that's chump change compared to running the full WoO tour. You might wanna go back to your coloring books.



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This message was edited on January 20, 2022 at 10:14:40 PM by RodinCanada
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Posted By: glhayden on January 20 2022 at 09:41:11 PM

Size of the shop? Who said anything about that? 

 

Oh, and whether it be $200,000 or $300,000, that's chump change compared to running the full WoO tour. You might wanna go back to your coloring books.



Sorry for not having exact budgets calculated for your approval. Also sorry you missed the point but it's so obvious I'm not going to repeat it. Just add a zero to the dollar figure if you'll sleep better.


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hardon
January 20, 2022 at 11:59:10 PM
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Posted By: glhayden on January 20 2022 at 04:44:55 PM

I watched it, and it is amazing to me the amount of $$ being spent on that team by Mr. Quiting (and I'm certain by other top 5-6-7 WoO teams). 5 brand new cars being assembled, plus a 6th "used" one from 2021 that Gravel referred to as a "rainy day car" (which I took to mean if the other ones all get wadded up, it would be ready to go in the hauler). All brand new carbon fiber bodies. All new Weld wheels. I just don't see how a local, or even a regional racer could even dream of keeping up with a team with kind of $$. Don't misunderstand me, I'm happy for Gravel and thankful for men like Todd Quiring. But at the same time I really feel sorry for guys like Kraig Kinser, or Brock Zearfoss having to try to claw their way into winning a race here and there (which Kraig last did over 2 years ago and Zearfoss I don't think has yet done) on a "beer budget" while the top tier teams are feasting on a "wine & cheese" kind of budget. Again I'm not anti-big $$ teams in the WoO, but I will be buying a tee shirt from the aforementioned two other teams this year...and then cheerfully asking them to offer it to someone less financially able as I don't wear tee shirts any more (no pockets for my spectacles).



I wonder how much today's top teams actually spend on their cars?  Years ago I heard that Steve Kinser basically had his whole car or a good portion of it donated.  He had a deal with Maxim, he had a deal with Sander and a deal with a lot of sprint car manufacturer parts.  Is this still the case today?



glhayden
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I wonder how much today's top teams actually spend on their cars?  Years ago I heard that Steve Kinser basically had his whole car or a good portion of it donated.  He had a deal with Maxim, he had a deal with Sander and a deal with a lot of sprint car manufacturer parts.  Is this still the case today?



I just learned from an expert on the subject that teams spend anywhere from $200,000 to $300,000 in donated funds. And in keeping in the spirit of the subject of this thread, it's my understanding that the teams no longer actually paint their cars with an aerosol can, opting rather to wrap their cars in vinyl decorations. Hoping that this insider information is of value to you and a few others as I return to sweet nocturnal slumber. 



alum.427
January 21, 2022 at 05:08:20 AM
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When I used to go, I'd  collect peanuts while guys like steve, sammy, wolfgang, hewitt would walk the PRI show isles and manufactures would want them in there booths for a couple hrs. They come in to make deals. Sanders would give the little guys a chance to buy there product at a deeply discounted price if you spent 15k. That was many years ago, I'm sure that buy in is a lot more today. So if you think there paying retail prices that's not the case. It's the same with chassis, you buy x ammount and will give you x extra. PRI has gotten so big that the deals are made before the show dates ever come up.



3togo
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When I used to go, I'd  collect peanuts while guys like steve, sammy, wolfgang, hewitt would walk the PRI show isles and manufactures would want them in there booths for a couple hrs. They come in to make deals. Sanders would give the little guys a chance to buy there product at a deeply discounted price if you spent 15k. That was many years ago, I'm sure that buy in is a lot more today. So if you think there paying retail prices that's not the case. It's the same with chassis, you buy x ammount and will give you x extra. PRI has gotten so big that the deals are made before the show dates ever come up.



Wow, some pretty Damm good looking paint schemes so far... keep posting them.



Dryslick Willie
January 21, 2022 at 05:50:46 AM
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Posted By: 3togo on January 21 2022 at 05:42:12 AM

Wow, some pretty Damm good looking paint schemes so far... keep posting them.



LoL...I was thinking the same thing.   Typical Hoseheads nonsense



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LoL...I was thinking the same thing.   Typical Hoseheads nonsense



Well, it is the off-season. :)



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