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revjimk
October 14, 2021 at 01:41:39 AM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on October 13 2021 at 12:41:41 PM

Yeah...yeah whatever.  

At least I am not afraid to put my name out there for all my posts.....unlike 99.9 percent fo the people on here including you!!



Can you read????



revjimk
October 14, 2021 at 01:43:33 AM
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Posted By: Murphy on October 13 2021 at 09:44:16 PM

To paraphrase Groucho Marx, "I wouldn't want to join a club that had BStrawser (if that really is his name) as a member".

-Murphy



Its BS Trouser....AKA "Poopy Pants" wink



BStrawser26
October 14, 2021 at 05:59:27 AM
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Posted By: revjimk on October 14 2021 at 01:43:33 AM

Its BS Trouser....AKA "Poopy Pants" wink



No it is B Strawser - Truth Teller - And nobody wants to hear the truth anymore!!

The news and a lot of people would rather lie to your face than tell you the truth.  


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BStrawser26
October 14, 2021 at 06:04:18 AM
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Posted By: RodinCanada on October 13 2021 at 06:45:12 PM

Me, Strawser and Stan make up.1% of all hoseheads.

I've always thought I was a minority.



I agree.  People are chicken to put there real name out there.  


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Dryslick Willie
October 14, 2021 at 07:21:23 AM
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Posted By: egras on October 12 2021 at 08:02:16 PM

Are there even enough races left?  If I'm seeing it right, there are only 6.  That is a lot of places to finish ahead.  



The only way Gravel catches him is if Sweet gets injured and can't race.   



sprintfanatic
October 14, 2021 at 07:47:39 AM
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Posted By: Dryslick Willie on October 14 2021 at 07:21:23 AM

The only way Gravel catches him is if Sweet gets injured and can't race.   



Sweet would still get Bill Rose "entered" points which appears to be 90 points per race.




Murphy
October 14, 2021 at 09:51:46 AM
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Posted By: Dryslick Willie on October 14 2021 at 07:21:23 AM

The only way Gravel catches him is if Sweet gets injured and can't race.   



...or gets caught with an illegal chassis and is suspended...

(I'm guessing he has the point championship tied up.)



revjimk
October 14, 2021 at 09:58:36 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on October 14 2021 at 05:59:27 AM

No it is B Strawser - Truth Teller - And nobody wants to hear the truth anymore!!

The news and a lot of people would rather lie to your face than tell you the truth.  



You must mean Fox News.....

Too bad you can't handle the truth



hardon
October 15, 2021 at 12:22:51 AM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on October 14 2021 at 06:04:18 AM

I agree.  People are chicken to put there real name out there.  



Ok, since you're not afraid or chicken, what's your full name?  I'm sure people would love to see a real picture of you.  Not sure what kind of guy you really are?  But for me, I won't post my name or anything that could connect me to me, not because I'm afraid of what people here might think but I know the world we live in today.  Sometimes I enjoy a few Bud Lights before I check this forum (like tonight) and maybe don't do the best proof reading.  So in 20 years I don't want something I've said to be taken out of context and be labeled as a racist, snowflake or whatever the offensive term is at that time and get cancelled (kind of like a former NFL coach).




hiroshimacarp
October 15, 2021 at 06:39:57 AM
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one of the things i feel like is missing in central pa is a good points championship.  i think there's a central pa points championship of some sort but it's not something that doesn't get talked about much.  even the track championships seem more like an after thought...probably because some of the best guys don't go to the same track consistently especially on saturdays.

i bring it up because the season kind of ends unceremoniously...at least compared to other forms of racing.  it seems to trail off even though there are still races going on here and there.  the national open seems like the unofficial end to the season and i think port gets hosed with its outlaw date because of that.  

i don't know the solution and it probably doesn't matter to most people.  it adds to the emphasis that's placed on winning.  consistency in these parts doesn't get you much except maybe during pa speedweek where that title seems to have some prestige.  i'm enjoying the nascar playoffs and the f1 points battle so it would be cool to see something like that still going on with the 410s.



Murphy
October 15, 2021 at 07:14:58 AM
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Posted By: hiroshimacarp on October 15 2021 at 06:39:57 AM

one of the things i feel like is missing in central pa is a good points championship.  i think there's a central pa points championship of some sort but it's not something that doesn't get talked about much.  even the track championships seem more like an after thought...probably because some of the best guys don't go to the same track consistently especially on saturdays.

i bring it up because the season kind of ends unceremoniously...at least compared to other forms of racing.  it seems to trail off even though there are still races going on here and there.  the national open seems like the unofficial end to the season and i think port gets hosed with its outlaw date because of that.  

i don't know the solution and it probably doesn't matter to most people.  it adds to the emphasis that's placed on winning.  consistency in these parts doesn't get you much except maybe during pa speedweek where that title seems to have some prestige.  i'm enjoying the nascar playoffs and the f1 points battle so it would be cool to see something like that still going on with the 410s.



Maybe they need a "playoff" to "chase" points?

(Sorry man, the devil made me do it)



armyduke
October 16, 2021 at 09:58:48 AM
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Posted By: hiroshimacarp on October 15 2021 at 06:39:57 AM

one of the things i feel like is missing in central pa is a good points championship.  i think there's a central pa points championship of some sort but it's not something that doesn't get talked about much.  even the track championships seem more like an after thought...probably because some of the best guys don't go to the same track consistently especially on saturdays.

i bring it up because the season kind of ends unceremoniously...at least compared to other forms of racing.  it seems to trail off even though there are still races going on here and there.  the national open seems like the unofficial end to the season and i think port gets hosed with its outlaw date because of that.  

i don't know the solution and it probably doesn't matter to most people.  it adds to the emphasis that's placed on winning.  consistency in these parts doesn't get you much except maybe during pa speedweek where that title seems to have some prestige.  i'm enjoying the nascar playoffs and the f1 points battle so it would be cool to see something like that still going on with the 410s.



I agree.  Track championship in PA is nothing except who shows up the most really.  Speedweek same, there were what 12 guys? who showed to each speedweek show and I think 4 of them were outsiders Peck, Rico, Paulie and Haefertepe?  It really means very little who wins points in PA because of all that IMO. 

At least for Speedweek, the purse is fine (around 35K paid out per race), three things would have to happen IMO for Speedweek to get more notice:

1.  Separate speedweek point fund paying out top 10 or 12 in points who participate in the entire week, with a little something for those that compete in all the races but don't crack the top 10 or 12 at the end of the "week".  I KNOW, I should write a check, maybe use half the 50/50 for that each night and at the end of the week pay it out equally to the folks who showed for each night?   

2.  Cooperation, no other central PA track should run 410s the same night a Speedweek show is goin.  Run Late models non-wing etc... instead if track wants to run. 

3.  Include more tracks.  This has been discussed/beat to death, but a Speedweek at 5 tracks with only 8 of 50 PA guys going to every race isn't cutting it, IMO. 

Just my opinions here, PA speedweek should be a bigger deal but it isn't, it's not close to Ohio speedweek and it's behind Indiana Sprint Week and Indiana Midget Week as well.  That too will be argued, but unless you are a homer, you know it's true. 

 




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I live 3000 miles away so cant speak to any specifics but in general an event needs to change as the lives and needs of the participants change. You may get away with a one day event sticking to the old method for nostalgic reasons and many may support it for the same reason. But racing has changed and the success of long standing events need to adapt, change, morph, bend etc to make todays drivers want to attend.


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care what most of you think!

HoldenCaulfield
October 17, 2021 at 03:45:11 PM
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Posted By: armyduke on October 16 2021 at 09:58:48 AM

I agree.  Track championship in PA is nothing except who shows up the most really.  Speedweek same, there were what 12 guys? who showed to each speedweek show and I think 4 of them were outsiders Peck, Rico, Paulie and Haefertepe?  It really means very little who wins points in PA because of all that IMO. 

At least for Speedweek, the purse is fine (around 35K paid out per race), three things would have to happen IMO for Speedweek to get more notice:

1.  Separate speedweek point fund paying out top 10 or 12 in points who participate in the entire week, with a little something for those that compete in all the races but don't crack the top 10 or 12 at the end of the "week".  I KNOW, I should write a check, maybe use half the 50/50 for that each night and at the end of the week pay it out equally to the folks who showed for each night?   

2.  Cooperation, no other central PA track should run 410s the same night a Speedweek show is goin.  Run Late models non-wing etc... instead if track wants to run. 

3.  Include more tracks.  This has been discussed/beat to death, but a Speedweek at 5 tracks with only 8 of 50 PA guys going to every race isn't cutting it, IMO. 

Just my opinions here, PA speedweek should be a bigger deal but it isn't, it's not close to Ohio speedweek and it's behind Indiana Sprint Week and Indiana Midget Week as well.  That too will be argued, but unless you are a homer, you know it's true. 

 



1. 2021 speedweek had a payout of $20,700 with $6000 to the champion. I agree it would be nice to see it even higher and every team that runs all events get a nice check, but this is much higher than OH speedweek pays out for points the last I knew. The PA SW purses are generally a little better than OH too. What makes OH arguably better is that it's All-Star sanctioned(more casr) plus it's been around longer so it has a little more history. 

2. All tracks do cooperate for SW. No central PA track runs 410's against a SW race.

3. There's actually 7 tracks - WG, Lincoln, Port, Selinsgrove, Baps, Grandview and Hagerstown. 

I've had gripes,complaints and opinions about speedweek and about the big 3 having 2 races instead of letting more tracks in, but the truth is that car counts - including cars that run all events, purses, crowds and speedweek excitement have been growing the last few years. Sure anything can be made better but PA speedweek is a fun week with good fields, good crowds and a lot of good racing. I hope it keeps growing and the outsiders keep coming as it makes it more interesting than what it used to be when it was just the locals. 


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BStrawser26
October 23, 2021 at 07:19:16 AM
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Posted By: dirtraceorbust on October 09 2021 at 11:16:37 PM

Sweet, Big Cat or defanged Little Cat.  Never seen a year-long championship leader fall off like this, most not his fault but still he must be saying, whats next.  



Now it is 12 positions per race and he will still win the championship.


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Next stop 4.00 a gallon!
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BStrawser26
October 23, 2021 at 01:12:16 PM
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Posted By: revjimk on October 14 2021 at 09:58:36 PM

You must mean Fox News.....

Too bad you can't handle the truth



Nope, I classify them as the lame stream media.


Under Donald Trump Energy Independence.
Gas prices above 3.50 in PA was 2.00 last year!
Next stop 4.00 a gallon!
Inflation through the roof!
The worst President ever = Sleepy Joe Biden!

Lets go Brandon!!  

Don't blame me I voted Trump

BStrawser26
October 23, 2021 at 01:16:55 PM
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Posted By: hardon on October 15 2021 at 12:22:51 AM

Ok, since you're not afraid or chicken, what's your full name?  I'm sure people would love to see a real picture of you.  Not sure what kind of guy you really are?  But for me, I won't post my name or anything that could connect me to me, not because I'm afraid of what people here might think but I know the world we live in today.  Sometimes I enjoy a few Bud Lights before I check this forum (like tonight) and maybe don't do the best proof reading.  So in 20 years I don't want something I've said to be taken out of context and be labeled as a racist, snowflake or whatever the offensive term is at that time and get cancelled (kind of like a former NFL coach).



You are full of excuses and I don't do excuses.

My first name is Brian.  Could careless if people know my name. Like I said you are a chicken!  Like most of the people on this board.


Under Donald Trump Energy Independence.
Gas prices above 3.50 in PA was 2.00 last year!
Next stop 4.00 a gallon!
Inflation through the roof!
The worst President ever = Sleepy Joe Biden!

Lets go Brandon!!  

Don't blame me I voted Trump

hardon
October 23, 2021 at 10:04:47 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on October 23 2021 at 01:16:55 PM

You are full of excuses and I don't do excuses.

My first name is Brian.  Could careless if people know my name. Like I said you are a chicken!  Like most of the people on this board.



Took you a while to respond.  Did your mom help you with that one or did you need permission before you could so bravely put your name out there?




revjimk
October 23, 2021 at 11:02:02 PM
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Posted By: armyduke on October 16 2021 at 09:58:48 AM

I agree.  Track championship in PA is nothing except who shows up the most really.  Speedweek same, there were what 12 guys? who showed to each speedweek show and I think 4 of them were outsiders Peck, Rico, Paulie and Haefertepe?  It really means very little who wins points in PA because of all that IMO. 

At least for Speedweek, the purse is fine (around 35K paid out per race), three things would have to happen IMO for Speedweek to get more notice:

1.  Separate speedweek point fund paying out top 10 or 12 in points who participate in the entire week, with a little something for those that compete in all the races but don't crack the top 10 or 12 at the end of the "week".  I KNOW, I should write a check, maybe use half the 50/50 for that each night and at the end of the week pay it out equally to the folks who showed for each night?   

2.  Cooperation, no other central PA track should run 410s the same night a Speedweek show is goin.  Run Late models non-wing etc... instead if track wants to run. 

3.  Include more tracks.  This has been discussed/beat to death, but a Speedweek at 5 tracks with only 8 of 50 PA guys going to every race isn't cutting it, IMO. 

Just my opinions here, PA speedweek should be a bigger deal but it isn't, it's not close to Ohio speedweek and it's behind Indiana Sprint Week and Indiana Midget Week as well.  That too will be argued, but unless you are a homer, you know it's true. 

 



Seems like the big problem is that most teams can't afford to make all the races

So maybe base the Championship points on best finishes out of "X" number of races? I fergit how many they run, but if its 10, say, points are based on best 8 finishes? An incentive for teams that can't afford the whole deal.... then they could give bonuses to teams that did the whole deal, regardless of finish

Just suggestions, I've never put on a race or series & never will wink



highspeeddirt
October 25, 2021 at 08:26:03 AM
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Crown the Cat! I feel Gravel needed to gain more points this weekend to even have a chance. 





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