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ascsmachanic
July 31, 2007 at 10:47:03 PM
Joined: 08/12/2005
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i know sheila dave is dave we just put the car together and keep it race ready u know me it just made me mad that there was alot saying that caused it yes maye he di but when your going 30 to 40 miles an hour slower than some one be hind u theres nothing u can realy do he cant see behind him trust me he dont need to be in a super hell a two barrel was anough for him to handle but thats what he wanted and he flips the bill i cant tell him what to do except go faster and when your scared of the car then u wont i think he is getting out of supers any way and im sorry if i pisses any budie of but that just me sorry sheila



rgosey
August 01, 2007 at 07:47:10 AM
Joined: 12/26/2005
Posts: 40
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I have a few more comments and observations to make and then I will shut up.

I have dealt with many irate people during my lifetime. I was a football coach for 13 years, a basketball referee and a baseball umpire off and on for a period of twenty years. When a coach's livelihood depends on an official's call, it can be become very frustrating. The coach looks around, trying to find some to blame, when something bad happens. His frustration is usually directed at an official.

This is true for racing, as well as an athletic contest. During my years of officiating, I learned that the best way to get along with coaches was to first understand that coaching is how they make a living and to tell them what you saw and why you made a call a certain way. That includes taking the blame when you blow a call.

The best way to handle an irate coach is to let him cool off and they tell him that you blew the call. You can't change the call, but you can apologize for missing a call or making a bad call. They have no idea what to say, but you gain a lot of respect.

These same principles apply to racing, especially if some got hurt. If you race long enough, you will get into situations where you cause someone to wreck, whether intentional or not.

The best way to handle the situation is to go and apologize and take the blame. If the other guy is looking for someone to blame for the accident, you have satisfied this need. What is he going to say? You have already said it.

I am sure that the F2 did not intentionally cause the wreck on Friday. I think that he just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

We are good friends with the Owens family. Mitch and Gary are very close friends. I went to the Owens' trailer after the wreck and I did not see Mr. Farmer, who was parked directly across from Gary, go over and, at least, inquire about Gary. He seemed to be more concerned about the condition of his own car. He loaded everything up and pulled out of the pits, shortly after the races were over.

A few words of advice:

1. Not everyone can get into a race car and go fast. If it was easy to drive a race car, everyone would be doing it. It takes time and a lot of advice from the ones that have been there.

2. If you go through the pits and talk to the drivers, they will all give you the same advice, until you learn how to drive, find a line around the race track and stay there. If they know where you are going to be, they can go around you, even if you are going slow. If you are going slow and moving all over the race track, they don't know what to do.

3. New drivers seem to have a big problem on the start of a race, when they are on the front row. Everyone is trying to get to the front, as quick as possible. Until you learn how to get through turns 1 and 2, get on the back. Things look a lot different from the back and you are not going to cause as many problems for the other drivers. If you start a heat race on the pole and come out of turn two on the back, you are probably starting in they wrong place.

4. If you are consistently going from the front to the back in one lap, you might as well start in the back. From the back, you can make a mistake, without causing problems. You can also run harder into turn one and if you spin out, you have done nothing bad, other than cause a restart of the race.

5. If you still happen to cause a wreck, apologize and take, at least, part of the blame and everyone will feel better about things.

That's all I have to say. I am putting my soap box away for today.



Christina
August 01, 2007 at 08:26:14 AM
Joined: 11/30/2004
Posts: 201
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Posted By: rgosey on August 01 2007 at 07:47:10 AM

I have a few more comments and observations to make and then I will shut up.

I have dealt with many irate people during my lifetime. I was a football coach for 13 years, a basketball referee and a baseball umpire off and on for a period of twenty years. When a coach's livelihood depends on an official's call, it can be become very frustrating. The coach looks around, trying to find some to blame, when something bad happens. His frustration is usually directed at an official.

This is true for racing, as well as an athletic contest. During my years of officiating, I learned that the best way to get along with coaches was to first understand that coaching is how they make a living and to tell them what you saw and why you made a call a certain way. That includes taking the blame when you blow a call.

The best way to handle an irate coach is to let him cool off and they tell him that you blew the call. You can't change the call, but you can apologize for missing a call or making a bad call. They have no idea what to say, but you gain a lot of respect.

These same principles apply to racing, especially if some got hurt. If you race long enough, you will get into situations where you cause someone to wreck, whether intentional or not.

The best way to handle the situation is to go and apologize and take the blame. If the other guy is looking for someone to blame for the accident, you have satisfied this need. What is he going to say? You have already said it.

I am sure that the F2 did not intentionally cause the wreck on Friday. I think that he just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

We are good friends with the Owens family. Mitch and Gary are very close friends. I went to the Owens' trailer after the wreck and I did not see Mr. Farmer, who was parked directly across from Gary, go over and, at least, inquire about Gary. He seemed to be more concerned about the condition of his own car. He loaded everything up and pulled out of the pits, shortly after the races were over.

A few words of advice:

1. Not everyone can get into a race car and go fast. If it was easy to drive a race car, everyone would be doing it. It takes time and a lot of advice from the ones that have been there.

2. If you go through the pits and talk to the drivers, they will all give you the same advice, until you learn how to drive, find a line around the race track and stay there. If they know where you are going to be, they can go around you, even if you are going slow. If you are going slow and moving all over the race track, they don't know what to do.

3. New drivers seem to have a big problem on the start of a race, when they are on the front row. Everyone is trying to get to the front, as quick as possible. Until you learn how to get through turns 1 and 2, get on the back. Things look a lot different from the back and you are not going to cause as many problems for the other drivers. If you start a heat race on the pole and come out of turn two on the back, you are probably starting in they wrong place.

4. If you are consistently going from the front to the back in one lap, you might as well start in the back. From the back, you can make a mistake, without causing problems. You can also run harder into turn one and if you spin out, you have done nothing bad, other than cause a restart of the race.

5. If you still happen to cause a wreck, apologize and take, at least, part of the blame and everyone will feel better about things.

That's all I have to say. I am putting my soap box away for today.



Very true!

Other advantages to starting on the back- It gives you a chance to see what lines the other guys are running and a chance try to follow.

You don't feel rushed, having to stomp on the gas to keep from getting run over. Which if you don't have a good handle on the car, it's slower, or the car is having problems can cause a serious problem for you and the other drivers if your on the front or even mid-pack.

I'll be the first to admit-I couldn't drive a race car. I drove my brothers factory stock one time, and I leaned it is nowhere as easy as some of the guys make it look. More fun and less stressful to watch LOL.

With that being so perfectly said Mr Gosey, you can get your soap box out anytime!


Christina
Air Max HVAC Systems


the gr81
August 01, 2007 at 12:24:57 PM
Joined: 06/15/2007
Posts: 27
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theres always gonna be wrecks in racing. its always gonna be someones fault. im sure the f2 didnt do it on purpose. as far as his driving goes look at, well i wont say any names but some people associate his number with bad luck, hes all over the track every week, hes caused his share of wrecks and nobody bashes him.



TBoutwell
August 01, 2007 at 04:48:08 PM
Joined: 12/11/2005
Posts: 147
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I wasn't there to see what happen but as it always seems to be that instead of the drivers involved working out any problems, it seems like the pit crews and fans get involved (mainly in the pits) and it gets bigger and bigger. When I raced factory stocks (if you could call it racing) I had an understanding with anyone on my crew that no one would get involved but me unless I was physically atacked. I always stated one the back except one and learned my lesson fast.



OKCFan12
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August 01, 2007 at 08:41:22 PM
Joined: 04/18/2005
Posts: 4764
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Posted By: the gr81 on August 01 2007 at 12:24:57 PM

theres always gonna be wrecks in racing. its always gonna be someones fault. im sure the f2 didnt do it on purpose. as far as his driving goes look at, well i wont say any names but some people associate his number with bad luck, hes all over the track every week, hes caused his share of wrecks and nobody bashes him.



hehe. I know who you're talkin about. very fast car that is all over the track. I still think he's gonna get better, but there are times he's out of control. With that said though........man there's a lot of people that are going through the "learning curve" I mean look at Whit Gastineau he was fast starting out and was in a lot of wrecks that were his fault........and we've watched him get better and better especially in the last year or 2.

So IMO.......there are a lot of really good drivers at OKC.....I think all round a lot better than any other track in the state........and there are still a lot that are still learning. It's great to see drivers that learn from their mistakes and try to always get better.


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