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Yes, because running more races in a year equals fewer travel costs!   What a crock!

Obviously, Egras' comment did not sink in for you: "When figuring this out, do not forget to add the travel to the events we know they ALL going to attend----Knoxville June, King's Royal, and Knoxville Nationals.  Those events should be calculated into both series since they are all attending.  "

It did but I still don't buy it.  Sorry you can't race more races and have fewer travel expenses!  It is impossible.  The Woo raced more times than the HL.  The HL guys were not at all the races that the Woo ran .  Impossible I tell you!

It did but I still don't buy it.  Sorry you can't race more races and have fewer travel expenses!  It is impossible.  The Woo raced more times than the HL.  The HL guys were not at all the races that the Woo ran .  Impossible I tell you!

It did but I still don't buy it.  Sorry you can't race more races and have fewer travel expenses!  It is impossible.  The Woo raced more times than the HL.  The HL guys were not at all the races that the Woo ran .  Impossible I tell you!

No no no, you are reading everything I'm saying incorrectly.  I support the HL drivers and whatever schedule they want to run.  I support, and watch both series equally through streaming.  I have not yet attended a HL race as I don't have to----I can see all of those drivers at local Outlaw events.  (something that will have to change if they are to expand and grow)

What I don't support is the notion that these drivers are choosing HL because the schedule is "cheaper" and more affordable to run.  It's not.  Why?  Because on top of the HL series, they are also going to attend a number of other can't-miss races which are already on the WoO schedule.  Strawser can call bull$@#t all he wants about running the HL being more expensive, but this came right from Donny's mouth.  Tony supposedly has a cob up his ass over the Outlaws, yet decides to sent TSR Racing on the road with them rather than a cheaper HL series?  No.  They added it up, and said running the entire HL schedule, on top of the other can't-miss races in the country, would require a higher budget.  I tend to believe that assessment.  

As far as enjoying the "flexibility"----that is fine if they want flexibility.  I have not seen this so call flexibility take shape yet with the exception of a race here and there.  HL is going to require drivers to race all of their events if they want the benefits.  (sound familiar)   As of now, HL has not scheduled against major WoO events creating the illusion of flexibility----but they're all going to those events anyways.  That is not what I call weekends off, or flexibility.  It's just that HL doesn't quite have the pull to schedule against those events.  Other than the Nats in August, as time goes on, they are going to grow a bigger pair, and will have to schedule against some major WoO races.  Flexibility is simply an illusion right now.  If I'm not mistaken, someone pointed out either late in the season, or after the season was over, that the drivers in the country that ran the most races were full-time HL drivers, and the highest earners were full-time WoO drivers................   The proof is right there.  I love both series, but why are people still so delusional that running the HL full time is the more economical choice?  It's proven not to be.  

I don’t see how you can say “I can see all of those drivers at local Outlaw events” and then make a complete 180 and say “ I have not seen this so call flexibility take shape yet with the exception of a race here and there.”       The HL schedule has strategic gaps which allow their drivers to attend some of the desired WoO races.      HL full time teams have cited this flexibility as one of the reasons they chose that series.     By contrast, full time WoO drivers race almost every weekend (37 in 2025) from March until November and get little opportunity (flexibility) to race outside of the series.

I can’t comment on which series is cheaper to run because I haven’t heard the HL teams mention costs.  

Can you please post a link to the Donny Schatz interview so we can hear “Donny's words” from Donny ?

I don’t see how you can say “I can see all of those drivers at local Outlaw events” and then make a complete 180 and say “ I have not seen this so call flexibility take shape yet with the exception of a race here and there.”       The HL schedule has strategic gaps which allow their drivers to attend some of the desired WoO races.      HL full time teams have cited this flexibility as one of the reasons they chose that series.     By contrast, full time WoO drivers race almost every weekend (37 in 2025) from March until November and get little opportunity (flexibility) to race outside of the series.

I can’t comment on which series is cheaper to run because I haven’t heard the HL teams mention costs.  

Can you please post a link to the Donny Schatz interview so we can hear “Donny's words” from Donny ?

onporch----I'm terrible at posting a link correctly.  This is not the EXACT interview I was thinking of, but he says the same thing.   

Youtube, search "Scelzi Says: Donny Schatz joins the show"   The entire interview is pretty good, straight forward, and he pulls no punches.  The part you're looking to hear, which Strawser thinks is complete BS, is at about the 24 minute mark.  Once again, it's not the exact quote I was thinking of, but it's the same topic with the same outcome.  

That is because it is total BS!

As is most all of the ignorant things you type. A comment like that suggest that you don't have a grasp of the conversation, like your average 8-year old. Surely, a business genious like yourself should understand budgets, income forecasts and spread sheets. Otherwise, you'd just sound like you are running your mouth about stuff you really don't understand.

As is most all of the ignorant things you type. A comment like that suggest that you don't have a grasp of the conversation, like your average 8-year old. Surely, a business genious like yourself should understand budgets, income forecasts and spread sheets. Otherwise, you'd just sound like you are running your mouth about stuff you really don't understand.

Genius*

Now hold on, what makes you think Tony Stewart and Donny Schatz are better businessmen than Strawser? 

These cars are not cheap to run or for that matter to tow down the the road.   So racing more surley would be cheaper!  NOT!

Back to the original post....  

Windom out of HL and 55 to WoO and sides 7s

Zearfoss out of WoO and going to 8 in PA and his 3z select shows 

Ppm out of HL and to Forbrook 5 knoxville

Guesses for Vermeer 55?  I'll go Chase Randall and HL 

EDIT - It's Hunter in the 55 no word on  schedule/series

Marks back to HL.