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slideguy
August 14, 2022 at 02:35:13 PM
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Thrilled to have the Jackson Nationals back to their traditional spot after Knoxville,  Thinking it's around 30-40 cars for the $50k to win show.  Knoxville is off plus Outlaws so hoping to hit 32 minimum 40 being awesome.

 

 




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Thrilled to have the Jackson Nationals back to their traditional spot after Knoxville,  Thinking it's around 30-40 cars for the $50k to win show.  Knoxville is off plus Outlaws so hoping to hit 32 minimum 40 being awesome.

 

 



I believe last time I looked was 25K to win the Finale.  10k each of the first two nights.



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Recent Press release:

A three-day trip to Minnesota’s Jackson Motorplex brings the World of Outlaws NOS Energy Drink Sprint Car Series to town for the 44th annual AGCO Jackson Nationals. Preliminary action on Thursday and Friday leads into Saturday’s $25,000-to-win finale as the Series makes its final stop in Minnesota this season.

 

This was from WoO press release when schedule was announced ilast November. Last year was $50k, unfortunately a big step backwards. 
 

New Jackson Nationals Date (Thurs.-Sat., Aug. 18-20) – One of the fastest-growing marquee events on the schedule has found a new time slot for 2022. The AGCO Jackson Nationals at Jackson Motorplex will move from June to August, taking place the week after the Knoxville Nationals. This year, Logan Schuchart won his second consecutive Jackson Nationals title and took home the $50,000 prize.

 

 




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So Tod ups Husets to $250k next year and drops Jackson down to $25k to win this year. I'm confused. That combined with only having about 4 weekends of sprints this summer, sorry to say but I think this place will be racing IMCA fender cars before long. The worst part about it is he basically pulled a Chuck Brennan and put so much money into the place that no one will be able to afford it now.



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So Tod ups Husets to $250k next year and drops Jackson down to $25k to win this year. I'm confused. That combined with only having about 4 weekends of sprints this summer, sorry to say but I think this place will be racing IMCA fender cars before long. The worst part about it is he basically pulled a Chuck Brennan and put so much money into the place that no one will be able to afford it now.



I hate to say it, but ever since Tod. Acquired Husets Jackson has become the redheaded child. Of his racing properties. It seems that he has lost all interest in it. And doesn't really care about it anymore. It shows in the weekly race programs. It's gotten to the point where people don't know when they're racing there. So people have found other things to do in the area. There are basically no.  teams left in the Jackson area. It used to be a stronghold for sprint car teams. And had tremendous. Interest. In sprint car racing. Tod says he is cut back. Because the track is losing money and it's a business decision. Well, I guess that's his decision. I personally think, and it's just. I think the track is being ran poorly. I think Tod and Doug. Don't care all that much about Jackson and their main interest is out in Brandon, SD. I see someone posted here it's 25,000 to win for the Jackson Nationals this year. I don't know if it's even that. I do know it was advertised the beginning of the year as a 50,000 to win show. And then. And they were moving it to August. I think it's total BS. If they're not paying that 50,000, like they said they were. I personally would not be surprised. If this is the last. Jackson Nationals. And I also would not be surprised. If there are no races at Jackson Motorplex next year. Unless. Someone else runs it. And how that would work? Who knows? But if that would happen. It would probably be. A deal that would have. IMCA classes. Add in the 360's And in my personal opinion that. What should have been? At Jackson for a . For a weekly show all along. That's what was successful before. I know it was nice. For the 360's are run for 3000 to win. But that was ridiculous. Guess we'll see what happens. Would be terrible for one of the nicest facilities in the country. To not have races. But it's very possible that could happen.  Glen Murra



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August 17, 2022 at 03:04:36 PM
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While it is disappointing that it's now $25k to win, it's still 3 days of WoO racing which will pay probably upwards of $200k in purse. Jackson having a small population base to draw from, it makes it harder to run a profitable weekly show.

 




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While it is disappointing that it's now $25k to win, it's still 3 days of WoO racing which will pay probably upwards of $200k in purse. Jackson having a small population base to draw from, it makes it harder to run a profitable weekly show.

 



When I attend or watch a race the winner's share of the purse doesn't factor into my final decision.  The only financials I worry about is if I can afford the trip or the streaming channel.  I have been watching races for 62 years and haven't won a cent of the driver's purse.  I'm sure they aren't worried about how much I make.  I look for off the top of my head 40 to 45 cars and decent racing if the weather doesn't interfere.  Jackson is 210 miles southeast of me and we have rain in the forecast every day through Saturday up in Forest Lake.  I'm not making the trip, nobody to travel with and didn't make any reservations.  That's easily a $750 weekend, have a non-racing trip coming up with the long haired mess cook pretty soon.  wink

Jackson should be good racing.  I went to my first Jackson Nationals sometime around 82-83.  Used to be a heck of a show back then and is actually a long standing event that has bounced around to different dates.  Should be good racing to watch from home this time.


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When I attend or watch a race the winner's share of the purse doesn't factor into my final decision.  The only financials I worry about is if I can afford the trip or the streaming channel.  I have been watching races for 62 years and haven't won a cent of the driver's purse.  I'm sure they aren't worried about how much I make.  I look for off the top of my head 40 to 45 cars and decent racing if the weather doesn't interfere.  Jackson is 210 miles southeast of me and we have rain in the forecast every day through Saturday up in Forest Lake.  I'm not making the trip, nobody to travel with and didn't make any reservations.  That's easily a $750 weekend, have a non-racing trip coming up with the long haired mess cook pretty soon.  wink

Jackson should be good racing.  I went to my first Jackson Nationals sometime around 82-83.  Used to be a heck of a show back then and is actually a long standing event that has bounced around to different dates.  Should be good racing to watch from home this time.



I remember those Nationals too. With the high car counts. And it was for a lot less money. Things have sure changed. I'm also in the same boat you are, and I live a lot closer. Tickets are a lot higher. Gas prices are a lot higher. Hope to attend at least one night. But the weather forecast sure doesn't look good. I hope you're right on the 40 to 45 cars. I think that might be 5 to 10 cars high. I'm looking for 32 to 35 cars. For the amount of money that's being paid out, that's a sad field of cars. By the way, this is my 60th year of attending sprint car racing. Well, I guess it started with modified.  Glen Murra



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While it is disappointing that it's now $25k to win, it's still 3 days of WoO racing which will pay probably upwards of $200k in purse. Jackson having a small population base to draw from, it makes it harder to run a profitable weekly show.

 



You're correct. It is a three day outlaw show, and not many tracks get a three day outlock show. And it is a very nice purse. That's why I can't understand why they don't pull in more cars for it. Who knows what the answer is for that? I guess it remains to be seen how many will be there this time. As for the weekly show. I know pass promoters. Seem to do OK. When I was assistant flag man there. The promoter ran. 360's Plus, the IMCA classes on Saturday nights. Modifieds. Stock cars and hobby stocks. And made enough money to put up Musco lights. Out of his own pocket. He always had a nice crowd in the stands. He advertised the heck. For his races down in the Iowa Great Lakes. Which, in my books was a. Was a great idea. I believe the 360 sprints were paid 1200 or 1500 to win Not the 3000 to win. Like Jackson is paying them now, which, in my books, is way too much. And one of the reasons why. Not making money. Which is tied in with what you said. They're paying too big of a purse. For a weekly show. They're paying more for the 360's than Knoxville does. Plus, a very good purse for the 305 It's no wonder they're not making money. There's a very big following. Minnesota and northern Iowa. For IMCA. Type racecars. And Jackson drop the ball . When they took them off the weekly show. And now I'm afraid they can't and won't be able to get IMCA sanctioned. Because other tracks in the area have picked it up. And what other thing Jackson has always been. A Saturday night track. Not Friday night. But that's just my rant and my ideas, I could be wrong. It's not my money in the deal? I've just been around for 60 years?  all 60 of those years I've been going to Jackson. I'd hate to see the place close.  Glen Murra




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When I attend or watch a race the winner's share of the purse doesn't factor into my final decision.  The only financials I worry about is if I can afford the trip or the streaming channel.  I have been watching races for 62 years and haven't won a cent of the driver's purse.  I'm sure they aren't worried about how much I make.  I look for off the top of my head 40 to 45 cars and decent racing if the weather doesn't interfere.  Jackson is 210 miles southeast of me and we have rain in the forecast every day through Saturday up in Forest Lake.  I'm not making the trip, nobody to travel with and didn't make any reservations.  That's easily a $750 weekend, have a non-racing trip coming up with the long haired mess cook pretty soon.  wink

Jackson should be good racing.  I went to my first Jackson Nationals sometime around 82-83.  Used to be a heck of a show back then and is actually a long standing event that has bounced around to different dates.  Should be good racing to watch from home this time.



I agree with your decision making. Winners share doesn't factor for me as well as much as who is racing, how many, and the venue/distance to. I leave the track, driver, team, promotional decisions to the ones who have made that investment into the sport. I only worry about my financials as well and considering most often it is gas & ticket price its a farily simple process. 

Jackson Nationals are still on my bucket list and although selfishly I wish they would have stayed in June like the previous few years, they have to do what is best for them. School has started here in Ohio so the makes me unable to attend if it stays here. I had planned on going this year but when the schedule came out I was bummed a little but oh well. I got to go to the Kings Royal and Knoxville Nationals among other Outlaw and All Star races so I am more fortunate than most.  Would like to get to Jackson someday as the race the past few years has looked awesome and the facility looks good. 

I do find it odd though how the event seemed to go up in purse the past number of years and now this year has decreased. It seemed like it was really starting to become one of those next level type events right up there with Knoxville and Kings Royal. Dropping the winners share does take a little prestige away but not enough that would have kept me from attending if the dates would have lined up a little bit better. 



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I agree with your decision making. Winners share doesn't factor for me as well as much as who is racing, how many, and the venue/distance to. I leave the track, driver, team, promotional decisions to the ones who have made that investment into the sport. I only worry about my financials as well and considering most often it is gas & ticket price its a farily simple process. 

Jackson Nationals are still on my bucket list and although selfishly I wish they would have stayed in June like the previous few years, they have to do what is best for them. School has started here in Ohio so the makes me unable to attend if it stays here. I had planned on going this year but when the schedule came out I was bummed a little but oh well. I got to go to the Kings Royal and Knoxville Nationals among other Outlaw and All Star races so I am more fortunate than most.  Would like to get to Jackson someday as the race the past few years has looked awesome and the facility looks good. 

I do find it odd though how the event seemed to go up in purse the past number of years and now this year has decreased. It seemed like it was really starting to become one of those next level type events right up there with Knoxville and Kings Royal. Dropping the winners share does take a little prestige away but not enough that would have kept me from attending if the dates would have lined up a little bit better. 



August after the Nationals was their traditional date before they became the Motorplex.  Thleg ran 410's and 360's back in The 80's and got a ton of cars.  As car as lowering the purse I have no idea what that's about but I don't have an opinion either way.  My only obligation is to myself as to whether I want to attend or stream.  People say "support your local track" but I don't consider 210 miles and a motel bill local.  Local to me is Cedar Lake which is about a 35 minute drive.  Jackson, Husets and Knoxville would all require a motel room as I don't make the redeye all night drives alone anymore.  I am going to stream Jackson all three nights weather permitting.  I don't think it will be a wash but it could be a nuisance.  


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If Tod wants to operate as basically a specials only facility then so be it. Like Glen said it used to run Saturdays and they had plenty to keep the sprint car and the stock car fans happy. The track was fun, it was a blast to sit down in turn one and watch the sprint cars float over the dip and through the turns. It was worth the 3 hour drive for me and I did it often. Have not been there in 15 years now. 360s turned into what 410s used to be and it just wasn't as fun. Now the track is smaller and hammer down. No thanks. Jon did a good job promoting it and while I don't have access to the books it was understood that everyone made a few bucks. Sign of the times I guess? Some people call it progress but not me. 




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I guess there's one thing I don't quite understand they've cut the first place payout on Saturday night from $50,000 down to 20 or 25,000 but you have to take it prices are all the same you still have to pay $42 for general admission or $45 for reserve seats now in my books if you cut everything for the drivers you should cut things for the fans but I guess it must be inflation like I said earlier I was thinking about going one or two nights but after I seen the ticket prices I just can't afford to go I'll be staying home $42 is out of my price range 32 or 35 would have been fine 42 is ridiculous especially knowing how they've gone from 50,000 to win down to 25,000 to win I've said in the past it makes no dip to me what somebody gets to win I just go for the good races but this I think is a bunch of Bologna and it just goes along with what I've said before they don't care about Jackson all they care about is their track in South Dakota and it's really sad. Glen Murra



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I guess there's one thing I don't quite understand they've cut the first place payout on Saturday night from $50,000 down to 20 or 25,000 but you have to take it prices are all the same you still have to pay $42 for general admission or $45 for reserve seats now in my books if you cut everything for the drivers you should cut things for the fans but I guess it must be inflation like I said earlier I was thinking about going one or two nights but after I seen the ticket prices I just can't afford to go I'll be staying home $42 is out of my price range 32 or 35 would have been fine 42 is ridiculous especially knowing how they've gone from 50,000 to win down to 25,000 to win I've said in the past it makes no dip to me what somebody gets to win I just go for the good races but this I think is a bunch of Bologna and it just goes along with what I've said before they don't care about Jackson all they care about is their track in South Dakota and it's really sad. Glen Murra



If seven bucks is going to break you, you've got much bigger problems than which track Tod favors.

It's really simple. If people showed up for the races there, he'd promote more races there. There's really not a huge population within an hour of that track. Every improvement he's made to that facility has been a passion project and people should be thankful the whole place isn't a strip mall by now.


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I don't get it. Jackson has a 3-day WoO Jackson Nationals race and everybody on here turns into Eeyore. Would you be happier if there wasn't this race?

Eeyore >>>> "Ya, it might be a good race, bit it'll probably rain...frown "




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I guess there's one thing I don't quite understand they've cut the first place payout on Saturday night from $50,000 down to 20 or 25,000 but you have to take it prices are all the same you still have to pay $42 for general admission or $45 for reserve seats now in my books if you cut everything for the drivers you should cut things for the fans but I guess it must be inflation like I said earlier I was thinking about going one or two nights but after I seen the ticket prices I just can't afford to go I'll be staying home $42 is out of my price range 32 or 35 would have been fine 42 is ridiculous especially knowing how they've gone from 50,000 to win down to 25,000 to win I've said in the past it makes no dip to me what somebody gets to win I just go for the good races but this I think is a bunch of Bologna and it just goes along with what I've said before they don't care about Jackson all they care about is their track in South Dakota and it's really sad. Glen Murra



Good lord! Wait 'till you see what gas prices are compared to 30 years ago.



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If seven bucks is going to break you, you've got much bigger problems than which track Tod favors.

It's really simple. If people showed up for the races there, he'd promote more races there. There's really not a huge population within an hour of that track. Every improvement he's made to that facility has been a passion project and people should be thankful the whole place isn't a strip mall by now.



Well, Ford maybe it's entirely possible things of change so much I'm wrong. Of all the old promoters. That used to run Jackson. And when the county owned the property, one was a crook. That was using his father in law's money. So I can see why he Left.  And one before him, I believe, did OK, money wise, the one before him that was there when I was assistant flag man. Ended up leaving because of family problems. But I think he did OK money wise. And the other gentleman. I believe did OK too. But decided to quit. To devote time to his family. But I could be wrong. You'd have to look them up and ask them personally. I don't know if you wanna do that or not. Probably not. I do know. That there is a large. Vacation area 20. Minutes away from Jackson. That they all. Advertised In. big time. And back then, they didn't have social media to rely on. The guy I worked for had billboards. and even old cars. With wings on Them. With Jackson Speedway plastered all over them. And it seemed to work. Because he always had a full grandstand on Saturday nights. Of course, he ran. The cars that people wanted. To see. And charged a price that people could afford. To get into the grandstand. And you can ask a lot of people. And they will tell you things change tremendously. What the Owner. purchased the track in South Dakota? Jackson became the redheaded child. But I'm just the person that has been going there for 60 years. Have seen the good and the bad. And right now I'm seeing the bad. And I would think for all the money that's been spent on that place, things would be done a little different. I certainly don't think they need to be paying. 360 sprints. 3000 to win for a weekly show. I don't know if it's for bragging rights or what? But that's just me. And yes, who knows? Maybe it will become a strip mall. Or maybe an outlet mall. Guess we'll have to see what happens. And yes, it sucks to have to worry about 7 bucks. But I'm in that position. I will get into that story.   Glen Murra 



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Thrilled to have the Jackson Nationals back to their traditional spot after Knoxville,  Thinking it's around 30-40 cars for the $50k to win show.  Knoxville is off plus Outlaws so hoping to hit 32 minimum 40 being awesome.

 

 



Good field of 410's considering that there were around 10 - 12 no shows who race Knoxville/Husets regularly.




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If seven bucks is going to break you, you've got much bigger problems than which track Tod favors.

It's really simple. If people showed up for the races there, he'd promote more races there. There's really not a huge population within an hour of that track. Every improvement he's made to that facility has been a passion project and people should be thankful the whole place isn't a strip mall by now.



Tod Quiring is a business man who has invested heavily in racing by fielding a WOO team and renovating Jackson before basically saving the Hussets Speedway from possible destruction. How much more can you ask for. The WOO usually races for $10K on preliminary nights to win. I have always thought the purse should  not be as top heavy as it is at many big shows.Look at the payout at the Nationals after the first 30/40 cars!



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Well, Ford maybe it's entirely possible things of change so much I'm wrong. Of all the old promoters. That used to run Jackson. And when the county owned the property, one was a crook. That was using his father in law's money. So I can see why he Left.  And one before him, I believe, did OK, money wise, the one before him that was there when I was assistant flag man. Ended up leaving because of family problems. But I think he did OK money wise. And the other gentleman. I believe did OK too. But decided to quit. To devote time to his family. But I could be wrong. You'd have to look them up and ask them personally. I don't know if you wanna do that or not. Probably not. I do know. That there is a large. Vacation area 20. Minutes away from Jackson. That they all. Advertised In. big time. And back then, they didn't have social media to rely on. The guy I worked for had billboards. and even old cars. With wings on Them. With Jackson Speedway plastered all over them. And it seemed to work. Because he always had a full grandstand on Saturday nights. Of course, he ran. The cars that people wanted. To see. And charged a price that people could afford. To get into the grandstand. And you can ask a lot of people. And they will tell you things change tremendously. What the Owner. purchased the track in South Dakota? Jackson became the redheaded child. But I'm just the person that has been going there for 60 years. Have seen the good and the bad. And right now I'm seeing the bad. And I would think for all the money that's been spent on that place, things would be done a little different. I certainly don't think they need to be paying. 360 sprints. 3000 to win for a weekly show. I don't know if it's for bragging rights or what? But that's just me. And yes, who knows? Maybe it will become a strip mall. Or maybe an outlet mall. Guess we'll have to see what happens. And yes, it sucks to have to worry about 7 bucks. But I'm in that position. I will get into that story.   Glen Murra 



You're probably one of the few people on the face of the earth that thinks a race track is paying too much to win a race.  Are you thinking that if they cut the winner's pay from $3,000 to $500, they could cut your ticket price back to 4 bucks?





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