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WingedSpeed
December 06, 2021 at 03:14:26 PM
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The following is my ratings for;

Best track facility for promotion, parking, food stands etc.

1. Port Royal (Hands down)

2. Lincoln

3. Selingsgrove

4. Williams Grove

5. Susquehanna

 

Best weekly track prep and condition;

1. Lincoln (Hands down) great job Fred Putney

2. Selingsgrove

3. Williams Grove

4. Susquehanna (Would be much better if not so dusty)

5. Port Royal (Hands down the worst)




FORD97
December 06, 2021 at 06:39:12 PM
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Posted By: WingedSpeed on December 06 2021 at 03:14:26 PM

The following is my ratings for;

Best track facility for promotion, parking, food stands etc.

1. Port Royal (Hands down)

2. Lincoln

3. Selingsgrove

4. Williams Grove

5. Susquehanna

 

Best weekly track prep and condition;

1. Lincoln (Hands down) great job Fred Putney

2. Selingsgrove

3. Williams Grove

4. Susquehanna (Would be much better if not so dusty)

5. Port Royal (Hands down the worst)



Should I wait for you to agree with yourself with one of your other accounts or just go ahead and call bullshit now?


Unless I know you, I don't care what you think.

WingedSpeed
December 06, 2021 at 06:52:34 PM
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Posted By: FORD97 on December 06 2021 at 06:39:12 PM

Should I wait for you to agree with yourself with one of your other accounts or just go ahead and call bullshit now?



Call it how you want it.  I did.




longtimefan
December 06, 2021 at 08:07:12 PM
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Posted By: FORD97 on December 06 2021 at 06:39:12 PM

Should I wait for you to agree with yourself with one of your other accounts or just go ahead and call bullshit now?



You may find it hard to believe but there really is two of them. It sort of reminds me of a new billboard that I heard about today.



BStrawser26
December 06, 2021 at 08:13:01 PM
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Posted By: FORD97 on December 06 2021 at 06:39:12 PM

Should I wait for you to agree with yourself with one of your other accounts or just go ahead and call bullshit now?



Never met wingedspeed.


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WingedSpeed
December 07, 2021 at 05:55:47 AM
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Posted By: longtimefan on December 06 2021 at 08:07:12 PM

You may find it hard to believe but there really is two of them. It sort of reminds me of a new billboard that I heard about today.



Smart & Smarter?




alum.427
December 07, 2021 at 06:49:35 AM
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With the schedule released by Port Royal it will be interesting to see if any of the other central pa tracks up there schedules.  To make a comparison of dates and what is being offered at each track you can take your pick of seeing a xtra purse show just about anywhere.  As for track prep, here we go, Lincoln is the  by far the track that is easiest on motors.  Many times it's a slimy mess and the heat races are boring at best. Dust, not at lincoln. My choice is port royal then williams grove, but you can't beat the racing at Selinsgrove either. Be glad central pa offers the best racing in the country. Each weekend you can pick and choose to see some great racing.



Murphy
December 07, 2021 at 12:37:32 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on December 06 2021 at 08:13:01 PM

Never met wingedspeed.



Dr. Jekyll never met Mr. Hyde either.



beezr2002
December 07, 2021 at 04:32:47 PM
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I'll throw Path Valley in there, they are working on the place and the racing is fun, far from the boring half mile freight train tracks They should get a Speedweek date, Kreitzer needs to dump hagerstown and add another small track, atleast its in PA.




WingedSpeed
December 07, 2021 at 05:32:16 PM
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Posted By: beezr2002 on December 07 2021 at 04:32:47 PM

I'll throw Path Valley in there, they are working on the place and the racing is fun, far from the boring half mile freight train tracks They should get a Speedweek date, Kreitzer needs to dump hagerstown and add another small track, atleast its in PA.



I partially agree with you.  Add Path Valley to Speedweek schedule, Absolutely!!  Keep Hagerstown and have Lincoln, WG or Port give up one of their 2 dates.  No track should have 2 dates.  JMO.



longtimefan
December 07, 2021 at 08:01:48 PM
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Posted By: beezr2002 on December 07 2021 at 04:32:47 PM

I'll throw Path Valley in there, they are working on the place and the racing is fun, far from the boring half mile freight train tracks They should get a Speedweek date, Kreitzer needs to dump hagerstown and add another small track, atleast its in PA.



Path Valley does not have the infrastructure for a Speed Week race. ( don't even tell me that they have had one before because that doesn't change that) I have been to Selinsgrove for big races and they barely do.  You people do know that other than Grandveiw the big three as you call them pay higher purses than most tracks can?  Also tracks without their group of regulars have a hard time drawing large car counts. There are eight tracks involved what Speed Week has more tracks involved? Williams Grove, Lincoln and Port Royal would have to give up a week of 410's to only have one. Then you rain that one out and what do they get out of it. Then add to that the issue of the tracks you replace them would likely pay a lower purse. This seems to be more a small group of fan's complaint rather than the race teams. I seldom hear them saying we should race for less money.



alum.427
December 08, 2021 at 06:05:46 AM
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There's not one good reason for them to go to Hagerstown.  Pa speedweek is terrible, nobody will give up there night and so tracks get 2 shows. I think they need to align themselves with the all stars for the whole week. Start it on a Wednesday  and run it to Sunday night.  5 nights is plenty,  grandview,  grove, port royal,  path valley and finish up Sunday at Selinsgrove.  Grove and Port Royal can run a high purse late model event on there respective regular night. Grandview has the mods on Saturday.  Lincoln gets all the extra cars that don't want to run speedweek. Grandview and Path Valley are 2 smaller tracks that guys don't run on a regular bases, then you have the 3 big 1/2 mile tracks that are the backbone of central pa big tracks. 




digs
December 08, 2021 at 06:18:12 AM
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I'd vote 4 these:

Wed, June 1st – Michael’s Mercer Raceway
Thu, June 2nd – Thunder Mountain Speedway
Fri, June 3rd – Lernerville Speedway
Sat, June 4th – Sharon Speedway
Sun, June 5th – Tri City Raceway Park



BStrawser26
December 08, 2021 at 06:53:26 AM
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This message was edited on December 08, 2021 at 07:16:08 AM by BStrawser26
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Posted By: alum.427 on December 08 2021 at 06:05:46 AM

There's not one good reason for them to go to Hagerstown.  Pa speedweek is terrible, nobody will give up there night and so tracks get 2 shows. I think they need to align themselves with the all stars for the whole week. Start it on a Wednesday  and run it to Sunday night.  5 nights is plenty,  grandview,  grove, port royal,  path valley and finish up Sunday at Selinsgrove.  Grove and Port Royal can run a high purse late model event on there respective regular night. Grandview has the mods on Saturday.  Lincoln gets all the extra cars that don't want to run speedweek. Grandview and Path Valley are 2 smaller tracks that guys don't run on a regular bases, then you have the 3 big 1/2 mile tracks that are the backbone of central pa big tracks. 



I like your idea of 5 nights only for a speedweek, except I would change it around a little.

Lincoln - You can't have a speedweek without this track.

Baps - We just got Baps back into speedweek last year.  Don't need to exclude them again.

Grove

Port

Selinsgrove

 

 


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dsc1600
December 08, 2021 at 07:41:56 AM
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Posted By: alum.427 on December 08 2021 at 06:05:46 AM

There's not one good reason for them to go to Hagerstown.  Pa speedweek is terrible, nobody will give up there night and so tracks get 2 shows. I think they need to align themselves with the all stars for the whole week. Start it on a Wednesday  and run it to Sunday night.  5 nights is plenty,  grandview,  grove, port royal,  path valley and finish up Sunday at Selinsgrove.  Grove and Port Royal can run a high purse late model event on there respective regular night. Grandview has the mods on Saturday.  Lincoln gets all the extra cars that don't want to run speedweek. Grandview and Path Valley are 2 smaller tracks that guys don't run on a regular bases, then you have the 3 big 1/2 mile tracks that are the backbone of central pa big tracks. 



So take a highly successful, well attended week, cut it in half, pay top dollar purses to the LMs in sprint car country and bring in the All Stars yet again even though car counts are not an issue. 

I can't see a thing wrong with this proposal. 




BStrawser26
December 08, 2021 at 08:06:36 AM
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Posted By: dsc1600 on December 08 2021 at 07:41:56 AM

So take a highly successful, well attended week, cut it in half, pay top dollar purses to the LMs in sprint car country and bring in the All Stars yet again even though car counts are not an issue. 

I can't see a thing wrong with this proposal. 



I would ask the teams how they feel about it.  There is getting to be fewer and fewer teams that run the entire speedweek....too grueling!  


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Gas prices above 3.50 in PA was 2.00 last year!
Next stop 4.00 a gallon!
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beezr2002
December 08, 2021 at 08:57:14 AM
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Selinsgrove gets the last date again when car counts are low. Susky gets a better date.? Lots of teams will be hurting with supply issues, from what I've heard the smarter teams were hoarding parts since last year.



longtimefan
December 08, 2021 at 09:01:52 AM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on December 08 2021 at 08:06:36 AM

I would ask the teams how they feel about it.  There is getting to be fewer and fewer teams that run the entire speedweek....too grueling!  



The race teams answer that question by showing up. Car counts have not a problem except at the tracks that don't run 410's regularly. That also answers the question of what they think of tracks having two races. All teams do not have to be at every race.




BStrawser26
December 08, 2021 at 09:36:20 AM
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This message was edited on December 08, 2021 at 09:46:26 AM by BStrawser26
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Posted By: longtimefan on December 08 2021 at 09:01:52 AM

The race teams answer that question by showing up. Car counts have not a problem except at the tracks that don't run 410's regularly. That also answers the question of what they think of tracks having two races. All teams do not have to be at every race.



What maybe 6 or 7 teams ran the whole series this past year. Some of those were All Stars if I remember right.   That is a BIG problem no matter how you slice it.


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Gas prices above 3.50 in PA was 2.00 last year!
Next stop 4.00 a gallon!
Inflation through the roof!
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longtimefan
December 08, 2021 at 10:08:14 AM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on December 08 2021 at 09:36:20 AM

What maybe 6 or 7 teams ran the whole series this past year. Some of those were All Stars if I remember right.   That is a BIG problem no matter how you slice it.



12 attended all racces, average car count was 36.  When I am at a race I am more concerned with the car count today than who was at another race.





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