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October 28, 2014 at
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Posted By: scottb15 on October 28 2014 at 04:22:03 PM
exactly i dont see the problem with using things like this for personal use, if you were selling stuff yea i can see the problem.
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The problem with your scenario would be Lids can't use the exact font because they would be selling it to you and profiting. You could always do it in the closest stock font they have available and there would be no problem, they own the patent on the font, not the # 15 or the name Schatz. And I agree, I don't think there going to come hunt you down for your 1 hat. But if you pull up to the Nationals with a trailer full and start selling them, I'd say it will be game on.
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October 28, 2014 at
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Posted By: scottb15 on October 28 2014 at 05:01:34 PM
Alright I figured out the SCHATZ font now just trying to figure out the 15..anyhelp we be cool. doenst have to be exact.
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here ya go..
![](http://www.hoseheadforums.com/images/uploadedimages/Forums/media/longdong/no15.png)
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October 28, 2014 at
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A font is a set of printable or displayable text character s in a specific style and size. The type design for a set of fonts is the typeface and variations of this design form the typeface family .
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October 29, 2014 at
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Posted By: longdong on October 28 2014 at 06:10:22 PM
here ya go..
![](http://www.hoseheadforums.com/images/uploadedimages/Forums/media/longdong/no15.png)
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That's some funny s#!t right there !!! U the man !!!
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October 29, 2014 at
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Posted By: Speedkills on October 28 2014 at 05:45:26 PM
The problem with your scenario would be Lids can't use the exact font because they would be selling it to you and profiting. You could always do it in the closest stock font they have available and there would be no problem, they own the patent on the font, not the # 15 or the name Schatz. And I agree, I don't think there going to come hunt you down for your 1 hat. But if you pull up to the Nationals with a trailer full and start selling them, I'd say it will be game on.
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Exactly right. You can get close enough to the original and have one made for yourself and never need to worry about Schatz or Tony Stewart Racing coming after you. You could even take your knock off item right up to Shatz and he will sign it and not say a word. If you decide to duplicate your knock off item to sell for profit then it won't be long before Tony Stewart Racing will ruin your day by bringing the local sheriff to your selling location to help confiscate your knock off inventory and shut you down. You'll actually be lucky if it ended there as they can/will also serve you with lawsuit papers and you'll then be forced to hire a lawyer to negotiate a money settlement to make the lawsuit go away.
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October 29, 2014 at
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They have no choice but to protect their car number font and signature. If they didn't they would have a parking lot full of vendors selling boot leg items for half the price at every race they went to. Thats just the way it is.
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October 29, 2014 at
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Really !!! ... 2 pages on the legality of making One hat or 5 hats for your family....
I think Stewart has had enough " publicity " lately to last a life time , that a news article in the New York Times on how he went after a " fan " for making a hat " to show is support of his favorite driver " is not gonna be on his radar....And if it is he should fire his PR people ASAP !...... LOL
So, let's say there are 500 different font's available to the graphics industry, If i'm understanding some of you on here, that if 500 people would patent each font the rest of us are screwed... We wouldn't be able to put a number on anything because we would be infringing on someone ?
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October 29, 2014 at
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This is ridiculous......
You CANNOT copyright, nor trade mark a 'font' or an actual 'type set'. UNLESS it is done so by the company that created it or has paid the money to have it created soley for their use.
You CAN copyright and / or trademark a given word (or name or number) in a particular typeset or font, HOWEVER, as someone else noted on here, if you change it (virtually) at all, it is no longer the 'same' as said TM'd or copyrighted word/number.
So, TSR can cr or tm "Schatz" or his #15 as on the car or their hauler or merchandize, but any VARIATION (different name or number in the same typeset or font) you're in the clear, provided it's not a font that was created and owned by them or their designer (YAK, in this case).
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October 29, 2014 at
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Posted By: onehunglow on October 29 2014 at 10:56:53 AM
Really !!! ... 2 pages on the legality of making One hat or 5 hats for your family....
I think Stewart has had enough " publicity " lately to last a life time , that a news article in the New York Times on how he went after a " fan " for making a hat " to show is support of his favorite driver " is not gonna be on his radar....And if it is he should fire his PR people ASAP !...... LOL
So, let's say there are 500 different font's available to the graphics industry, If i'm understanding some of you on here, that if 500 people would patent each font the rest of us are screwed... We wouldn't be able to put a number on anything because we would be infringing on someone ?
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It's that time of year Hung, slow race days and nothing else to talk about. Get over it......It's gonna get worse......
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October 29, 2014 at
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Posted By: godaddyracing on October 29 2014 at 11:19:37 AM
This is ridiculous......
You CANNOT copyright, nor trade mark a 'font' or an actual 'type set'. UNLESS it is done so by the company that created it or has paid the money to have it created soley for their use.
You CAN copyright and / or trademark a given word (or name or number) in a particular typeset or font, HOWEVER, as someone else noted on here, if you change it (virtually) at all, it is no longer the 'same' as said TM'd or copyrighted word/number.
So, TSR can cr or tm "Schatz" or his #15 as on the car or their hauler or merchandize, but any VARIATION (different name or number in the same typeset or font) you're in the clear, provided it's not a font that was created and owned by them or their designer (YAK, in this case).
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Ask 'Dad' Braishers family. He designed the G for the Packers, so that fits right in with what you are saying. Thanks for that.
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October 29, 2014 at
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Posted By: maddog53 on October 29 2014 at 12:13:13 PM
It's that time of year Hung, slow race days and nothing else to talk about. Get over it......It's gonna get worse......
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Won't be long and it'll be all Chili Bowl ticket talk and where is a good place to eat in Tulsa chat.
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