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stainless
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August 13, 2014 at 04:57:52 PM
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Just wondering if anybody else thinks its a little strange that the Kevin Ward Jr. family has requested that the Toxicology results not to be published from the autopsy?




buzz rightrear
August 13, 2014 at 05:45:22 PM
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Posted By: stainless on August 13 2014 at 04:57:52 PM

Just wondering if anybody else thinks its a little strange that the Kevin Ward Jr. family has requested that the Toxicology results not to be published from the autopsy?



 not disagreeing but i have not heard that. i thought the sheriff said the medical examiner was not releasing the full autopsy report but i haven't heard anything about toxicology. can you please provide verified source so we can have more insight.


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buzz rightrear
August 13, 2014 at 05:59:55 PM
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Posted By: buzz rightrear on August 13 2014 at 05:45:22 PM

 not disagreeing but i have not heard that. i thought the sheriff said the medical examiner was not releasing the full autopsy report but i haven't heard anything about toxicology. can you please provide verified source so we can have more insight.



i found this:

Ward’s autopsy result on Monday showed that the 20-year-old spirited racecar driver died of massive blunt trauma. According to Sheriff Povero, the district attorney asked that any toxicology results from the autopsy should not be released.

http://www.examiner.com/article/kevin-ward-family-tony-stewart-ward-s-autopsy-result-new-video-revealed


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August 13, 2014 at 06:09:48 PM
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2723333/Under-fire-NASCAR-champion-Tony-Stewart-goes-hiding-following-fatal-crash-His-private-6million-plane-stops-hometown-luggage-takes-parts-unknown.html

 


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August 13, 2014 at 07:30:15 PM
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Posted By: BigRightRear on August 13 2014 at 06:09:48 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2723333/Under-fire-NASCAR-champion-Tony-Stewart-goes-hiding-following-fatal-crash-His-private-6million-plane-stops-hometown-luggage-takes-parts-unknown.html

 



Seriously surprised with how much news you share from the UK


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buzz rightrear
August 13, 2014 at 08:09:26 PM
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Posted By: BigRightRear on August 13 2014 at 06:09:48 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2723333/Under-fire-NASCAR-champion-Tony-Stewart-goes-hiding-following-fatal-crash-His-private-6million-plane-stops-hometown-luggage-takes-parts-unknown.html

 



i've been commenting to friends for the past few days that if i were tony's lawyer or PR person i would have him locked away with no access to the outside world. no phone no computing devices, no social media access...nothing.

the torch and pitchfork crowd is looking for anything he might say or do that they could hold against him or spin to their benefit. i would go as far to say that goes for the local authorities as well. heck the girl involved in the crash at the same track last year that tony was also involved in and who broke her back is now saying tony tried to kill her. how low is that? that was a racing incident that resulted in a crash and unfortunatley the girl was hurt. so to come out and say tony tried to kill her is rediculous.  no matter what the best thing tony can do right now is stay out of the picture because the media is already over playing this and letting the idea that tony didn't hit ward by accident continue to weave into the story.

i can understand the view of wards family and their remarks but i am willing to say that if things were reversed and it was the 14 car on the outside that hit the wall and it was tony who got out of his car and kevin who hit him, their opinion of what happened would be entirely different.

i still didn't see tony bump kevin or run him off the track from the video i saw. i saw close racing and kevin trying to ride the cushin and lose it. if something happened before that we are not aware of, then maybe kevin did have cause to be so pissed.

 

 

 


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kossuth
August 13, 2014 at 10:55:37 PM
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Posted By: buzz rightrear on August 13 2014 at 08:09:26 PM

i've been commenting to friends for the past few days that if i were tony's lawyer or PR person i would have him locked away with no access to the outside world. no phone no computing devices, no social media access...nothing.

the torch and pitchfork crowd is looking for anything he might say or do that they could hold against him or spin to their benefit. i would go as far to say that goes for the local authorities as well. heck the girl involved in the crash at the same track last year that tony was also involved in and who broke her back is now saying tony tried to kill her. how low is that? that was a racing incident that resulted in a crash and unfortunatley the girl was hurt. so to come out and say tony tried to kill her is rediculous.  no matter what the best thing tony can do right now is stay out of the picture because the media is already over playing this and letting the idea that tony didn't hit ward by accident continue to weave into the story.

i can understand the view of wards family and their remarks but i am willing to say that if things were reversed and it was the 14 car on the outside that hit the wall and it was tony who got out of his car and kevin who hit him, their opinion of what happened would be entirely different.

i still didn't see tony bump kevin or run him off the track from the video i saw. i saw close racing and kevin trying to ride the cushin and lose it. if something happened before that we are not aware of, then maybe kevin did have cause to be so pissed.

 

 

 



The part about Alysha Ruggles is bullshit.

 

Lets all quit reading the main stream news.  Reason being 99% of the reporters just don't know what the fuck they talking about.  Case in point two articles that showed showed up at the top of the Bing and Google searches when I looked for anything Alysha Ruggles associated.  Examples below

 

WARNING LINKS SHOW JUST HOW OUT OF TOUCH THE MEDIA REALLY IS ABOUT THIS WHOLE DEAL......

 http://www.herald-citizen.com/sports/item/2190-the-3-2-pitch-ward-death-could-have-been-avoided

http://www.autoracing1.com/hotnews.asp?tid=71367



buzz rightrear
August 13, 2014 at 11:37:54 PM
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Posted By: kossuth on August 13 2014 at 10:55:37 PM

The part about Alysha Ruggles is bullshit.

 

Lets all quit reading the main stream news.  Reason being 99% of the reporters just don't know what the fuck they talking about.  Case in point two articles that showed showed up at the top of the Bing and Google searches when I looked for anything Alysha Ruggles associated.  Examples below

 

WARNING LINKS SHOW JUST HOW OUT OF TOUCH THE MEDIA REALLY IS ABOUT THIS WHOLE DEAL......

 http://www.herald-citizen.com/sports/item/2190-the-3-2-pitch-ward-death-could-have-been-avoided

http://www.autoracing1.com/hotnews.asp?tid=71367



i agree the MSM is full of crap and i stand corrected that it was a relative who said tony tried to kill her.

the thing is the report i heard claimed she said it. thing is it also claimed she was paralized. i knew there had been an incident last year and someone was hurt bad but i never remembered anyone ending up paralized so i had wondered about that.

the other thing is in a print article that i found it says the girls uncle says tony tried kill her but when he is quoted it says "tony tried to kill my COUSIN". so they can't even get the same freakin facts in the same story correct.


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SprintFan16
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August 13, 2014 at 11:59:38 PM
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Am I missing something here? The top link posted seemed fine - the second one is just a report on what a family member says. I didn't log in to read the whole thing, but you do realize that they're reporting on someone who had a personal interest in the incident's thoughts. It's not a new idea and it's not the writer opining - they're reporting. They aren't making any conclusions, just providing additional information and personal context from those who are directly or indirectly involved. 




kossuth
August 14, 2014 at 04:41:02 AM
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Posted By: SprintFan16 on August 13 2014 at 11:59:38 PM

Am I missing something here? The top link posted seemed fine - the second one is just a report on what a family member says. I didn't log in to read the whole thing, but you do realize that they're reporting on someone who had a personal interest in the incident's thoughts. It's not a new idea and it's not the writer opining - they're reporting. They aren't making any conclusions, just providing additional information and personal context from those who are directly or indirectly involved. 



I will see if you catch it before I point it out. Don't skim read it, actually read it.  



SprintFan16
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August 14, 2014 at 09:00:32 AM
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Posted By: kossuth on August 14 2014 at 04:41:02 AM

I will see if you catch it before I point it out. Don't skim read it, actually read it.  



Well, I just reread it and still am missing what you're pointing out. I have a feeling it's some small detail that's slightly wrong, but let's hear it. 





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