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March 19, 2013 at
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during the yellow? sides obviously was good at doing two donughts in three and four only to "shut it off" out of four. not only did he "get the black flag" but he left rather suddenly!!
did anyone in the pits wittness the fighting?
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I hope he beat the shit out of that no namer that took him out, that pissed me off and i'm not the guy racing, just think about that...he is running second in the B then some no namer dumb kid comes plowing in under you and slides up and takes you out so now you are dead last in the B and not going to start the A main in any kinda way to end up doing any good!
People were saying on the other post that dj. netto was the show that night, if thats so then way was he running mid pack of the B um maybe cuz he was not so good, but thats not the point, the point is sides may of not been doing real hot that night but he was still second in points and if he would have not got taken out he would of been into the A and maybe worked up a few more spots to try and save as mayb points as possibe, the track sucked by the time the A got there for the outlaws it was pretty much one lane around the bottom and thats it maybe in some spots there was a little more room as you saw TK gain a few spots! At the end it just sucks the dj. netto had to take sides out, i hope netto goes and races with his own league the rest of the year!
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You can go back and forth with the people who say Netto did nothing wrong all you want, I don't have an opinion over who's fault it was cause I didn't see it and in the end, no one ever wins or changes there mind over these incidents, its just yelling and name calling back and forth at each other.
The one thing I do know is that in the end Jason Sides cost himself the most championship points by doing what he did. Jason has provisionals he can use to get into the A main and he could have pulled off the track after he spun and pulled a provisional and still raced the Main. You can say the Netto kid deserved it and you'd have done this and that all you want, in the end Jason Sides is running for a points championship and if you want to win that Championship you need to make smart decisions not impulsive ones. I'm not saying he couldn't have went over in the pit later and let the kid know he wasn't happy, but this isn't hockey and it never will be, physical altercations will get you thrown out, especially when the car is used as the means of the altercation.
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March 19, 2013 at
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NETTO sounds like another young kid with a lot of daddys money
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Posted By: Speedkills on March 19 2013 at 08:56:56 AM
You can go back and forth with the people who say Netto did nothing wrong all you want, I don't have an opinion over who's fault it was cause I didn't see it and in the end, no one ever wins or changes there mind over these incidents, its just yelling and name calling back and forth at each other.
The one thing I do know is that in the end Jason Sides cost himself the most championship points by doing what he did. Jason has provisionals he can use to get into the A main and he could have pulled off the track after he spun and pulled a provisional and still raced the Main. You can say the Netto kid deserved it and you'd have done this and that all you want, in the end Jason Sides is running for a points championship and if you want to win that Championship you need to make smart decisions not impulsive ones. I'm not saying he couldn't have went over in the pit later and let the kid know he wasn't happy, but this isn't hockey and it never will be, physical altercations will get you thrown out, especially when the car is used as the means of the altercation.
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I guess I was thinking the samething. Couldn't have Sides taken a provisional if he did not decide to ram a fellow competitor during the yellow? Sounds like Jason stepped on his own unit. I commend the Woo for sticking him on the trailer. I am a Sides fan but feel he got what he deserved this time.
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Posted By: BOOMBOOM on March 19 2013 at 09:42:54 AM
NETTO sounds like another young kid with a lot of daddys money
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Sorry to be the 1 to inform you but racing isn't a poor person's sport to get in to, any 16 or 17 year old out there racing a sprint car has someone around them that is financing the operation. But as far as this incident goes why does that make any difference other than the obvious reason being that your just trying to blindly throw mud.
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Staggerman I believbe SIDES has a large fan base. I would like to think you represent 99% of his fans and the x7 represents the 1%. Unfortunately, the 1% can quite often be complete idiots as is this case. Thanks for your comments.
Just a few years ago TK found out what happens when you use your car to intentionally hit another car. I believe he got a two week suspension....and...rightfully so.
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Posted By: Team x7 on March 19 2013 at 08:35:01 AM
I hope he beat the shit out of that no namer that took him out, that pissed me off and i'm not the guy racing, just think about that...he is running second in the B then some no namer dumb kid comes plowing in under you and slides up and takes you out so now you are dead last in the B and not going to start the A main in any kinda way to end up doing any good!
People were saying on the other post that dj. netto was the show that night, if thats so then way was he running mid pack of the B um maybe cuz he was not so good, but thats not the point, the point is sides may of not been doing real hot that night but he was still second in points and if he would have not got taken out he would of been into the A and maybe worked up a few more spots to try and save as mayb points as possibe, the track sucked by the time the A got there for the outlaws it was pretty much one lane around the bottom and thats it maybe in some spots there was a little more room as you saw TK gain a few spots! At the end it just sucks the dj. netto had to take sides out, i hope netto goes and races with his own league the rest of the year!
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how can someone who you say was running mid pack end up "taking out" the second place driver, who was only one position ahead? i didn't see the incident, but i have been around netto and seen him race and he seems to be a competent driver who i doubt intentionally took out sides. he may have inadvertently got into him, or as i have heard sides possibly got a little out of shape on his own and netto ended up tagging him. i don't know.
the one thing i do know is as long as you have sides cock in your mouth the facts won't have any use for you.
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Posted By: Team x7 on March 19 2013 at 08:35:01 AM
I hope he beat the shit out of that no namer that took him out, that pissed me off and i'm not the guy racing, just think about that...he is running second in the B then some no namer dumb kid comes plowing in under you and slides up and takes you out so now you are dead last in the B and not going to start the A main in any kinda way to end up doing any good!
People were saying on the other post that dj. netto was the show that night, if thats so then way was he running mid pack of the B um maybe cuz he was not so good, but thats not the point, the point is sides may of not been doing real hot that night but he was still second in points and if he would have not got taken out he would of been into the A and maybe worked up a few more spots to try and save as mayb points as possibe, the track sucked by the time the A got there for the outlaws it was pretty much one lane around the bottom and thats it maybe in some spots there was a little more room as you saw TK gain a few spots! At the end it just sucks the dj. netto had to take sides out, i hope netto goes and races with his own league the rest of the year!
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First off everyone starts off as a no namer! Secondly if no new "no names" join the sport e sports dies. Thirdly anyone racing a 360"or 410 sprint car has a lot of money tied up in the operation. So tired of the young racers getting beat up for making a mistake. Everyone was at one time new and made mistakes. Get over it. The best sprint car driver in the world makes mistakes. As I said before without new talent coming in to the sport the sport dies. Anyone that wants to criticize these new drivers should arrange a test drive in a car. Who knows you might make a mistake or two?????
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I guess in the end, if you like a driver enough you will cheer him on to do the dumbest and most dangerous things to "get back" at another competitor - even under the caution!
and...with that in mind, did any Sides fans take of their t-shirt and throw it down across the grandstand?
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Staggerman I believbe SIDES has a large fan base. I would like to think you represent 99% of his fans and the x7 represents the 1%. Unfortunately, the 1% can quite often be complete idiots as is this case. Thanks for your comments.
Just a few years ago TK found out what happens when you use your car to intentionally hit another car. I believe he got a two week suspension....and...rightfully so.
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AND, if memory serves, I believe he lost his ride over that incident.
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"any 16 or 17 year old out there racing a sprint car has someone around them that is financing the operation." THATS WHY I AM NOT A FAN OF LETTING 13-17 years old racing 900 hp race cars, let them race a lower class until and learn etiquette before they tear up other people's $hit
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jdfast i agree with you on the age . and if an aduld happened to drag one of those kids out of there car and slap him around they would charge him with child abuse
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Posted By: jdfast on March 20 2013 at 01:54:59 AM
"any 16 or 17 year old out there racing a sprint car has someone around them that is financing the operation." THATS WHY I AM NOT A FAN OF LETTING 13-17 years old racing 900 hp race cars, let them race a lower class until and learn etiquette before they tear up other people's $hit
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I suppose none of the veterans ever tear up someone else's shit. I suppose Sides has never gotten into anyone on the track. Nothing has ever been his fault. Face it, shit happens and it happened to Sides this time...........and age has nothing to do with it. Everyone has to learn the sport at some time. Do you think Sides just came into sprint car racing and set the world on fire? He had to learn too. Everyone was a rookie at one time. Yeah, it's gonna piss ya off when ya get taken out and that's why you have a chat with the offender and help him learn the game.
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Posted By: BigRightRear on March 19 2013 at 01:55:40 PM
I guess in the end, if you like a driver enough you will cheer him on to do the dumbest and most dangerous things to "get back" at another competitor - even under the caution!
and...with that in mind, did any Sides fans take of their t-shirt and throw it down across the grandstand?
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"any 16 or 17 year old out there racing a sprint car has someone around them that is financing the operation." THATS WHY I AM NOT A FAN OF LETTING 13-17 years old racing 900 hp race cars, let them race a lower class until and learn etiquette before they tear up other people's $hit
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I'm sorry but I've never seen a 13 or 14 year old race a 410 sprint car with the World of Outlaws, maybe its happened but I'm doubtful. There are a ton of examples though of 17 year olds that have raced on and off with the Outlaws over the years, Donny Schatz is a good example, he started when he was 16, I don't think it was till he was 18 that he went full-time but still, 1 year older than this Netto kid and he ran the whole schedule and don't think that he jumped in the car and lit the world on fire, there was lots of stuff wrecked and alot of learning. These types of incidents happen all the time, almost every race one guy is mad at another, your just pulling age into this because the guy it happened with this time was 17 and out of somewhere financials which I have no idea what that has to do with the incident.
As far as the few people who's main point is "Kick his Ass!" If you want to see a fight watch the NHL or UFC. If the only argument you have to prove that Jason was right is "He should have kicked his ass" you have a pretty weak argument and should probably just keep it to yourself.
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I guess I forgot to answer the OP question, Why did Sides run Netto in the wall. In simple terms, Netto spun/crashed (whatever you want to call it) Sides and cost him a starting spot in the main (which was so unnecessary. Feeling wronged by Netto and with WOO doing nothing to Netto, Sides took it into his own hands. He tried to make Mettp stop on the track, so he would have to start in the rear of pack just like Sides would do. When Netto decided not to stop, he gassed it and rode over the wall and got damage to his car. Netto did not stop, *but got damage to his car" and was not able to maintain a transfer spot. I'm not sure Netto meant to spin Sides, but he did. Not sure Sides meant to put Netto in the wall, but Netto decided to ride the wall instead of stopping. The only thing I don't understand is why Netto got a provisional. If Netto spins a transfer spot in the semi, and Woo does nothing, why is it a surprise someone would return the favor to the offending driver, whether under green or yellow.
Would it have been better, if Sides waited till they it was green and they were racing at 100 mph, or do it at 30 mph. If someone cost you alot of money, and the law did nothing even though they saw it, wouldn't you do something about it?
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I guess I forgot to answer the OP question, Why did Sides run Netto in the wall. In simple terms, Netto spun/crashed (whatever you want to call it) Sides and cost him a starting spot in the main (which was so unnecessary. Feeling wronged by Netto and with WOO doing nothing to Netto, Sides took it into his own hands. He tried to make Mettp stop on the track, so he would have to start in the rear of pack just like Sides would do. When Netto decided not to stop, he gassed it and rode over the wall and got damage to his car. Netto did not stop, *but got damage to his car" and was not able to maintain a transfer spot. I'm not sure Netto meant to spin Sides, but he did. Not sure Sides meant to put Netto in the wall, but Netto decided to ride the wall instead of stopping. The only thing I don't understand is why Netto got a provisional. If Netto spins a transfer spot in the semi, and Woo does nothing, why is it a surprise someone would return the favor to the offending driver, whether under green or yellow.
Would it have been better, if Sides waited till they it was green and they were racing at 100 mph, or do it at 30 mph. If someone cost you alot of money, and the law did nothing even though they saw it, wouldn't you do something about it?
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You keep saying Netto cost Sides a starting spot in the A when in fact Sides cost himself a starting spot by being a complete idiot. IF he would of sucked it up like a man and restarted the B he would have only had to pass a hand full of cars to make the A as the top 6 transfered. Most of those were "no names" as you say so he shouldn't of had a problem. If he had not been able to get up to 6th (which he more than likely would of been able to) he still had a provisional to fall back on and start the A. FACT IS Sides and his temper was his own worst enemy costing him valuable points to start the year.
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I guess I forgot to answer the OP question, Why did Sides run Netto in the wall. In simple terms, Netto spun/crashed (whatever you want to call it) Sides and cost him a starting spot in the main (which was so unnecessary. Feeling wronged by Netto and with WOO doing nothing to Netto, Sides took it into his own hands. He tried to make Mettp stop on the track, so he would have to start in the rear of pack just like Sides would do. When Netto decided not to stop, he gassed it and rode over the wall and got damage to his car. Netto did not stop, *but got damage to his car" and was not able to maintain a transfer spot. I'm not sure Netto meant to spin Sides, but he did. Not sure Sides meant to put Netto in the wall, but Netto decided to ride the wall instead of stopping. The only thing I don't understand is why Netto got a provisional. If Netto spins a transfer spot in the semi, and Woo does nothing, why is it a surprise someone would return the favor to the offending driver, whether under green or yellow.
Would it have been better, if Sides waited till they it was green and they were racing at 100 mph, or do it at 30 mph. If someone cost you alot of money, and the law did nothing even though they saw it, wouldn't you do something about it?
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How much money did that incident cost Jason, I'd like to know the amount and reasoning why you think it cost him so much money that he needed to go and do what he did?
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Starting Money for the main was $700. Lost points for the championship which equals more money. Yes he could of used a provisional, but than he would not have that provisional at a later date when he did not make the main. So yes, when Netto spun Sides out of a transfer spot when both drivers would of made the main, IT DID COST Sides in the pocket book. What Sides did to Netto was not good, but I believe his intention was for Netto to stop, and not make the main. It didn't work out that way, just like it didn't work out when Netto hit Sides rear bumper in the corner 
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