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April 26, 2012 at
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OK so they do that to try and add more races. Not as many fans attend mid week shows.
So promoters need a break in costs in order to book a race during the week. But did they also cut their sanctioning fee? I hope they are not making the teams take a pay cut while the WRG keeps rakeing in the same money.
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April 26, 2012 at
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Me All-Stars R lookin better everyday or them 360 races thatis paying 3000 to win
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April 26, 2012 at
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And the translation is?
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April 26, 2012 at
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Does anyone know what is the normal fee for a regular WOO show?
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April 26, 2012 at
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$20000 sanctioning fee.
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April 26, 2012 at
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April 26, 2012 at
06:01:37 PM by StanM
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Posted By: oswald on April 26 2012 at 02:01:44 PM
OK so they do that to try and add more races. Not as many fans attend mid week shows.
So promoters need a break in costs in order to book a race during the week. But did they also cut their sanctioning fee? I hope they are not making the teams take a pay cut while the WRG keeps rakeing in the same money.
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I'll make it a point not to buy a Sprint Car and have my driver win one of their races. That'll show 'em! 
P.S. Just kidding, I'm struggling to keep a 23 year old beater on the road so no owning Sprints in my future. Is this really an issue for the average racing fan? I mean, are there actually people out there who won't go to a race on account of behind the scenes business dealings? Does the change affect the taste of the beer?
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April 26, 2012 at
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Posted By: StanM on April 26 2012 at 05:58:04 PM
I'll make it a point not to buy a Sprint Car and have my driver win one of their races. That'll show 'em!
P.S. Just kidding, I'm struggling to keep a 23 year old beater on the road so no owning Sprints in my future. Is this really an issue for the average racing fan? I mean, are there actually people out there who won't go to a race on account of behind the scenes business dealings? Does the change affect the taste of the beer?
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I'm just wondering. No, it would never make me not go to a WoO race. And I don't care if it changes the taste of the beer, cause I do not like beer anyway:-)
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April 26, 2012 at
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" Does the change affect the taste of the beer? "
It did at I-55. They dropped Anheuser-Busch products and replaced them with Rocky Mountain Arsenal Radioactive Waste Water and StonerLight.
I understand that beer sales dropped like one of Sammy's tires at Knoxville. 
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April 26, 2012 at
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April 26, 2012 at
09:52:58 PM by Speedkills
I agree that as a fan the payout of the race doesn't really matter to me other than something to talk about. I'll be at the race anyways and even though the drivers complain about the payout in the end their there too. And I definately like the beer to be good and cold.
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April 27, 2012 at
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Posted By: oswald on April 26 2012 at 02:01:44 PM
OK so they do that to try and add more races. Not as many fans attend mid week shows.
So promoters need a break in costs in order to book a race during the week. But did they also cut their sanctioning fee? I hope they are not making the teams take a pay cut while the WRG keeps rakeing in the same money.
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For years and YEARS, midweek shows had lower purses than weekend shows ($5000 is what it used to pay to win), and until Boundless bought the Outlaws, the first night of a 2 day show on the weekend also only paid $5000 to win.
The $10,000 to win every event didn't start until Boundless took over and World Racing Group kept their philosophy and stuck with it.
The consequences were that until this year, hardly ANY mid-week shows (Lernerville Silver Cup being the lone exception most years). It's no wonder the schedule went from 90+ races in the late 1990's to ~65 today (almost all the midweek shows are gone because promoters couldn't make $$$ when the purse was $10,000 to win).
Love him or hate him, Ted knew that having mid-week shows kept the cars traveling from track to track (instead of back to the race shop for 4 days), and even though the mid-week races didn't pay as well, it kept the miles off the hauler and made the racers better (they raced 3-5 times per week back then, strangely enough, that's back when it was an upset when a POSSE member won in PA).
I for one wish they'd go back to the 2 day format of $5000 to win Friday, $10,000 to win Saturday and lock the top 4 finishers from Friday into the Saturday Night Dash. And then sprinkle in mid-week shows all season long (some of those small tracks that don't seat loads and loads of people could afford them again (and consequently, the big events could gain fans willing to travel to see the biggies once they witnessed the product first hand at their local speedway on a Monday or Wednesday Night).
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April 27, 2012 at
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Posted By: vande77 on April 27 2012 at 12:55:32 PM
For years and YEARS, midweek shows had lower purses than weekend shows ($5000 is what it used to pay to win), and until Boundless bought the Outlaws, the first night of a 2 day show on the weekend also only paid $5000 to win.
The $10,000 to win every event didn't start until Boundless took over and World Racing Group kept their philosophy and stuck with it.
The consequences were that until this year, hardly ANY mid-week shows (Lernerville Silver Cup being the lone exception most years). It's no wonder the schedule went from 90+ races in the late 1990's to ~65 today (almost all the midweek shows are gone because promoters couldn't make $$$ when the purse was $10,000 to win).
Love him or hate him, Ted knew that having mid-week shows kept the cars traveling from track to track (instead of back to the race shop for 4 days), and even though the mid-week races didn't pay as well, it kept the miles off the hauler and made the racers better (they raced 3-5 times per week back then, strangely enough, that's back when it was an upset when a POSSE member won in PA).
I for one wish they'd go back to the 2 day format of $5000 to win Friday, $10,000 to win Saturday and lock the top 4 finishers from Friday into the Saturday Night Dash. And then sprinkle in mid-week shows all season long (some of those small tracks that don't seat loads and loads of people could afford them again (and consequently, the big events could gain fans willing to travel to see the biggies once they witnessed the product first hand at their local speedway on a Monday or Wednesday Night).
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Been following the WOO for over 25 years. Seen races at Ascot, Santa Maria, Hanford, Eldora, Knoxville, Cedar Lake, Williams Grove, Farmer City, Hales Corners, Beaver Dam, Houston and many more. Lots of those shows were Mon-Thurs races and the bleachers were ALWAYS full! I've never been to a WOO that didn't look sold out. (Knoxville would be the only exception.)
WOO races draw good crowds and full houses.
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April 27, 2012 at
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Posted By: budz76 on April 27 2012 at 01:29:59 PM
Been following the WOO for over 25 years. Seen races at Ascot, Santa Maria, Hanford, Eldora, Knoxville, Cedar Lake, Williams Grove, Farmer City, Hales Corners, Beaver Dam, Houston and many more. Lots of those shows were Mon-Thurs races and the bleachers were ALWAYS full! I've never been to a WOO that didn't look sold out. (Knoxville would be the only exception.)
WOO races draw good crowds and full houses.
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Knoxvilles WoO friday night prelims never drew the crowd that Saturday did. And the Wens. show they used to have during the fair never drew a good crowd either.
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