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Topic: Brian Carter states that SLS promotions is the reason for Sides fines Email this topic to a friend | Subscribe to this TopicReport this Topic to Moderator
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BillyJ
November 08, 2011 at 02:31:46 PM
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Brian Carter and Tom deery both stated that SLS promotions is the problem behind it all.. I guess in a meeting sunday Brian carter stated that SLS is the reason for the fine to Sides and that they control what the WoO does.. If anything SLS and all thier events need to be boycotted we do not need a promoter like this in the series..




Kendra5
November 08, 2011 at 02:39:01 PM
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Brian Carter was just on Winged Nation and made no such claim.

Be careful with the hearsay and the "I guess"es.



BillyJ
November 08, 2011 at 04:24:24 PM
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Really like he will say that on wing nation you guys played into his hands come on.. He is ahead of a corporation i think he knows how to speak to the public and it wont be telling them that thier biggest kick back comes from the SLS and they have him by his balls. Seriously.. I know more than you think..




hoosier1
November 08, 2011 at 04:27:52 PM
Joined: 04/13/2005
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Posted By: BillyJ on November 08 2011 at 02:31:46 PM

Brian Carter and Tom deery both stated that SLS promotions is the problem behind it all.. I guess in a meeting sunday Brian carter stated that SLS is the reason for the fine to Sides and that they control what the WoO does.. If anything SLS and all thier events need to be boycotted we do not need a promoter like this in the series..



It's people like you that make we not want to like Jason Sides---guess he double downed one too many time's.



wishiwasarichkidracin
November 08, 2011 at 05:25:44 PM
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Posted By: BillyJ on November 08 2011 at 04:24:24 PM

Really like he will say that on wing nation you guys played into his hands come on.. He is ahead of a corporation i think he knows how to speak to the public and it wont be telling them that thier biggest kick back comes from the SLS and they have him by his balls. Seriously.. I know more than you think..



I don't profess to have any details on the subject but I do know that Carter is a horrible CEO given the debacle that was the stock offering of World Racing. I thought I could support the outlaws by purchasing this stock but watched horrible decision after horrible decision wither the value of the company away to virtually nothing. This indicates to me that Carter is very capable of making terrible decisions or, in Side's case, not making a decision at all. I hope there are some more intelligent, reasonable and wealthy people in the pipeline that will bring the outlaws out of the horribly mismanaged position they are in.



chicocheapo
November 08, 2011 at 06:12:51 PM
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It's no secret that Danny Schatz desperately wanted an Outlaw show this year at Red River Valley. And it's no secret that SLS hit the ceiling at even the thought of Danny getting a show in "SLS' terretory". (SLS' 'terretory' seems pretty large these days.) So Danny didn't get an Outlaw show, and especially not one in front of the SLS show in Grand Forks. So when Sweet and the "4"9 car run Danny's show, and Jason Sides runs it too (on top of Donny having all along arranged to be there)...SLS hit the ceiling again. My guess is that the night of that show, SLS chewed WRG up one side and down the other for 'letting' two other Platinum Teams run that RRVS show. That's their right. This is a free country. But what's not right is if they insisted that WRG punish Sides for racing at RRVS. What's also not right is for the WRG to succumb to SLS' demands and take Sides' accrued earnings from him to the tune of $40,000 +++. Danny's show was a huge success; Donny, Brad Sweet in the Red Bull car, Jason Sides, AND Tony Stewart all racing...heck, I'd have maybe paid to see that show. These days, I understand that if a track just about anywhere in the midwest wants an Outlaw show, they're told that they have to partner with SLS. That whole concept just kinda rubs me the wrong way. Maybe I'm way off base here, but it just seems a little too cozy...makes for difficult situations, just like the Sides situation, where one entity (the sanctioning body) that is supposed to be allegiant, first, to its race team members, seems far more allegiant to one promoter. Heck, what do I know. Maybe that's the best 'business model' for the 'brand'. The leadership at WRG surely knows more about this stuff than me.....I hope.

Peace




Murphy
November 08, 2011 at 06:43:59 PM
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Posted By: BillyJ on November 08 2011 at 04:24:24 PM

Really like he will say that on wing nation you guys played into his hands come on.. He is ahead of a corporation i think he knows how to speak to the public and it wont be telling them that thier biggest kick back comes from the SLS and they have him by his balls. Seriously.. I know more than you think..



Seriously, we're sure you do know more than we think, as you appear to not really know much of anything. If you're going to just make stuff up, please at least try to make it sound plausible. Let's be honest, plump, juicy gossip, and wild rumors just seem to be more fun, if they don't appear to have been made up by a 7th grader in study hall.



chucky
November 08, 2011 at 06:47:07 PM
Joined: 06/29/2005
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Posted By: Murphy on November 08 2011 at 06:43:59 PM

Seriously, we're sure you do know more than we think, as you appear to not really know much of anything. If you're going to just make stuff up, please at least try to make it sound plausible. Let's be honest, plump, juicy gossip, and wild rumors just seem to be more fun, if they don't appear to have been made up by a 7th grader in study hall.



AMEN


when the green flag drops, the bullshit stops!

crazyd
November 08, 2011 at 08:41:43 PM
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Posted By: chicocheapo on November 08 2011 at 06:12:51 PM

It's no secret that Danny Schatz desperately wanted an Outlaw show this year at Red River Valley. And it's no secret that SLS hit the ceiling at even the thought of Danny getting a show in "SLS' terretory". (SLS' 'terretory' seems pretty large these days.) So Danny didn't get an Outlaw show, and especially not one in front of the SLS show in Grand Forks. So when Sweet and the "4"9 car run Danny's show, and Jason Sides runs it too (on top of Donny having all along arranged to be there)...SLS hit the ceiling again. My guess is that the night of that show, SLS chewed WRG up one side and down the other for 'letting' two other Platinum Teams run that RRVS show. That's their right. This is a free country. But what's not right is if they insisted that WRG punish Sides for racing at RRVS. What's also not right is for the WRG to succumb to SLS' demands and take Sides' accrued earnings from him to the tune of $40,000 +++. Danny's show was a huge success; Donny, Brad Sweet in the Red Bull car, Jason Sides, AND Tony Stewart all racing...heck, I'd have maybe paid to see that show. These days, I understand that if a track just about anywhere in the midwest wants an Outlaw show, they're told that they have to partner with SLS. That whole concept just kinda rubs me the wrong way. Maybe I'm way off base here, but it just seems a little too cozy...makes for difficult situations, just like the Sides situation, where one entity (the sanctioning body) that is supposed to be allegiant, first, to its race team members, seems far more allegiant to one promoter. Heck, what do I know. Maybe that's the best 'business model' for the 'brand'. The leadership at WRG surely knows more about this stuff than me.....I hope.

Peace



Good post




wolfie2985
November 08, 2011 at 08:55:19 PM
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This message was edited on November 08, 2011 at 08:56:39 PM by wolfie2985

I'm not sure I get this whole SLS/WRG thing but it sounds to me like more corporate BS. When corporate BS takes-over short track/sprint car racing - if it hasn't already- it's doomed.

Local tracks with local promoters are the backbone of the sport. There's plenty of room for the corporate BS in NAPCAR land.

Maybe Ted Johnson wasn't such a "bad" guy after all.





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