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P Colby
February 08, 2011 at 03:36:48 PM
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Ncra? Or USRA


cross19c
February 08, 2011 at 06:19:49 PM
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The kk704 and g60 on sportmods?

mrm15
February 08, 2011 at 06:39:49 PM
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Sorry USRA




SILVER FOX #14
February 08, 2011 at 07:04:59 PM
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I talked to Todd Staley yesterday and he told me on the Southern sport mod tires it would be the Hooiser 500 only (the hard tire. 7 groove). No G60 or KK704.



downtheroad
February 08, 2011 at 09:36:33 PM
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This message was edited on February 08, 2011 at 09:39:17 PM by downtheroad
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Posted By: SILVER FOX #14 on February 08 2011 at 07:04:59 PM

I talked to Todd Staley yesterday and he told me on the Southern sport mod tires it would be the Hooiser 500 only (the hard tire. 7 groove). No G60 or KK704.



How can the USRA use a hoosier 500 tire only. when they are sponsored by American Racer. American racer does not make hard 500 tire. They only have a 6 groove soft tire. Sounds like Meeker and ada should of went NCRA or IMCA rules instead of USRA rules.

Send me a message if you guys have any hoosier 500 for sale? I'm going to be running NCRA again and Enid with imca rules. Don't want to buy another set of tires to just run USRA tracks



SILVER FOX #14
February 08, 2011 at 09:57:17 PM
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Posted By: downtheroad on February 08 2011 at 09:36:33 PM

How can the USRA use a hoosier 500 tire only. when they are sponsored by American Racer. American racer does not make hard 500 tire. They only have a 6 groove soft tire. Sounds like Meeker and ada should of went NCRA or IMCA rules instead of USRA rules.

Send me a message if you guys have any hoosier 500 for sale? I'm going to be running NCRA again and Enid with imca rules. Don't want to buy another set of tires to just run USRA tracks



USRA can not publicly state (rule book) that Hoosier tires are legal because they are getting all their point fund money from American Racer, but Meeker and Ada are going with the "alternative rules" which means like Todd said it will be the Hoosier 500 for Sport Mods. The American Racer 500 would ruin the class because it is so soft and it is exactly what this class doesn't need. You can all USRA to confirm or call whatever track to confirm.

 

 




downtheroad
February 08, 2011 at 10:02:43 PM
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This message was edited on February 08, 2011 at 10:03:14 PM by downtheroad
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Posted By: SILVER FOX #14 on February 08 2011 at 09:57:17 PM

USRA can not publicly state (rule book) that Hoosier tires are legal because they are getting all their point fund money from American Racer, but Meeker and Ada are going with the "alternative rules" which means like Todd said it will be the Hoosier 500 for Sport Mods. The American Racer 500 would ruin the class because it is so soft and it is exactly what this class doesn't need. You can all USRA to confirm or call whatever track to confirm.

 

 



To get national points you have to run a american racer tire.



downtheroad
February 08, 2011 at 10:08:29 PM
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This message was edited on February 08, 2011 at 10:10:38 PM by downtheroad

they don't need these big changes to:

14.8 Aluminum flywheel is permitted. Must have full-sized steel bell housing. Flywheel must bolt to crankshaft. Clutch must bolt to flywheel, a minimum six and one-quarter (6.25) inch clutch

15.3.2 Quick change devices allowed are not allowed. Nine (9) inch Ford is permitted. Floater recommended

16.7.27 OEM or OEM replacement steel rods only GM 5.7-inch or 6-inch rods are permitted.


16.7.29 Cap screw rods are permitted. Engine bolts may be aftermarket



funnn
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February 08, 2011 at 10:45:27 PM
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Posted By: downtheroad on February 08 2011 at 10:08:29 PM

they don't need these big changes to:

14.8 Aluminum flywheel is permitted. Must have full-sized steel bell housing. Flywheel must bolt to crankshaft. Clutch must bolt to flywheel, a minimum six and one-quarter (6.25) inch clutch

15.3.2 Quick change devices allowed are not allowed. Nine (9) inch Ford is permitted. Floater recommended

16.7.27 OEM or OEM replacement steel rods only GM 5.7-inch or 6-inch rods are permitted.


16.7.29 Cap screw rods are permitted. Engine bolts may be aftermarket



2012 lets just call them Modifieds.


Lance aka (FUNNN)


                     


biggbossmann
February 09, 2011 at 12:12:12 AM
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So is the quick change rear end "allowed are not allowed" line 15.3.2??? Which is it?? And I agree withe the 2012 modified theory.
#85 Limited Mod!! THAT JUST HAPPENED!!!

Sportmod75
February 09, 2011 at 06:59:25 AM
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What about camshaft anything but a roller. Are these the exact rules for Meeker and Ada. Can someone confirm this.

mrm15
February 09, 2011 at 02:54:55 PM
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This message was edited on February 09, 2011 at 03:02:54 PM by mrm15

Since George (Oklahoma Sports Park) says the rules i posted from USRA are not correct i have deleted them so that i am not blamed for posting false info, sorry for any problems. This was his response on OSP message board.

No these are the basic rules. We Promoters have been waiting on these from USRA. I am working on the changes to make these rules ours right now. When I am finished the rest of the promoters will have to approve. then they will go ti print.

From our last years rules we will be on a 500 CFM Holley, you may use roller rockers. (IMCA allows roller tip rockers, cost around $300.00 with IMCA getting A kickback vs. an aluminum set of full rollers at A little over $100.00). Tires will be the Hoosier 500 stamped or unstamped or pulloffs. Max 5.7 inch stock rods, not 6 inch aftermarket.

Just stay close to last years rules with these exceptions, and ignore the guys posting that have little reading comprehension. (The guys that get caught cheating and want to argue about what is written in the rule book.) Sorry to take so long but getting together with USRA and the other promoters is taking time.




mrm15
February 09, 2011 at 03:00:42 PM
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I guess we are just in a waiting game for all the promoters to decide on their rules. It's hard to build a car when you do not get the rules until opening day of race season. I could go on but i will leave it at that.



JORSKI 73
February 09, 2011 at 03:01:32 PM
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Sounds like a big pain in the ass! I bounce around from track to track guess I will just carry an extra tow vehicle full of diff tires carbs rockers and roller rockers and stuff like that . Why can't everyone just keep it close
winners dont cry when they lose , they go back to the 
drawing board and come back for round 2 !

mrm15
February 09, 2011 at 03:06:33 PM
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I was possibly planning on trying some different tracks just for fun but i do not have the funds to have a hauler full of parts to change just for one track, if i did i would not be running sport mods.




downtheroad
February 09, 2011 at 03:21:39 PM
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Posted By: mrm15 on February 09 2011 at 02:54:55 PM

Since George (Oklahoma Sports Park) says the rules i posted from USRA are not correct i have deleted them so that i am not blamed for posting false info, sorry for any problems. This was his response on OSP message board.

No these are the basic rules. We Promoters have been waiting on these from USRA. I am working on the changes to make these rules ours right now. When I am finished the rest of the promoters will have to approve. then they will go ti print.

From our last years rules we will be on a 500 CFM Holley, you may use roller rockers. (IMCA allows roller tip rockers, cost around $300.00 with IMCA getting A kickback vs. an aluminum set of full rollers at A little over $100.00). Tires will be the Hoosier 500 stamped or unstamped or pulloffs. Max 5.7 inch stock rods, not 6 inch aftermarket.

Just stay close to last years rules with these exceptions, and ignore the guys posting that have little reading comprehension. (The guys that get caught cheating and want to argue about what is written in the rule book.) Sorry to take so long but getting together with USRA and the other promoters is taking time.



When did the IMCA start running roller rockers? i haven't seen that rule in southern sport mod. I believe the northern sport mods can.

 



champ00
February 09, 2011 at 03:58:08 PM
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the USRA hasnt had southern sport mods and are tryin to do what IMCA wants to do just at a faster pace. Putin th two together. And every track can make rule changes as long as they are posted on their website is what I have bein told. Not sayin I like it but it is what it is better hope you check ever tracks website before you go.



CAR bodies
February 09, 2011 at 05:03:44 PM
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This message was edited on February 09, 2011 at 05:04:41 PM by CAR bodies

The rules they are going to use are just like what we have been running (IMCA). I wish the track promoters would just go with the rules and not want to change this and that. They are going with Hoosier 500 to make it easier, why do we need to change rocker arms and such. The rules that were posted are not like the ones they are going to use. The class is good just the way it is. there is no need to make it something you cant run somewhere else. USRA is trying to make this a good deal for the racers. they just don't know aything about the sport mods. I talked to the tech official and they are going with rules just like IMCA to make it easier and affordable to go to USRA.

Curtis Allen





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