Forum: Northern California Sprint Car (go)
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The 31 car finished 7th in Semi & was not scored in main event, yet was out there driving around. Was this some kind of open practice?

We tagged the back of the feature as a result of the provisional option that the series sponsor or promoter has. It is written into the rules and was not an "open practice". I would have elected not use the provisional if I didn't have a sposor sitting in the stands, that made it out for the first time this year. Wish we had a better showing all together, but.....that's how it sometimes goes. Sorry it seems to have pissed you off, but it is in the rules and I was just utlizing the rules.

Doesn't matter to me, but might matter to the leaders who have to lap a car that shouldn't be out there. Or to Wayne Katen & Steve Osbourne who run cars out their own pockets & didn't get any favors.

The leaders never had to lap the 31 car, which by the way would have been the 1st alternate. I know our car is run out of MY own pocket and I didn't get any favors. I just was smart enough to make sure I knew all of the rules.

I bet Osbourne would not have raced the Cowboy so hard on the last lap had he known the first alternate would have received a "Promoters Option".

What a costly spinout coming off of turn 2 that was for the Osbourne team.

How many provisions does a driver get?

If car counts stay in the 30's, running a 15+ car B main will be more common.

If the rule is a "Series Sponsor Provision", then, will this be awarded to non "Series Sponsored" cars in the future?

you guys are making this into more of a deal than it really is. first of all there are no non "Series Sponsored" cars. the series sponsor has the option to add a car into the field.

** Series Sponsor has the choice to add one unqualified car to the A main per night. If the Sponsor exercises this option, the driver and or car owner will receive NO points or prize money.

i am not 100% sure but i believe the promotor reserves the right to add a provisional as well. in most cases the provisional is not worth taking as it pays no points or money so your statement about osbourne would not make sense. the part about osbourne knowing or not knowing about provisionals would fall under the catagory of reading the rules and knowing when to use them in your favor. rick wright is the series sponsor, he allowed jason to use his provisional, he has the right to designate that provisional to any car he wants or to not use it at all. as said before, in most cases that provisional is of no use since it pays no money or points. the only reason it is in the rules is because rick wanted to be able to run his son if he had family or friends or a sponsor in the stands and his son missed the show. jason had a sponsor in the stands and wanted to get as much track time as he could. jason raced the main for no money and no points useing about 15 gallons of fuel @ about 6 bucks a gallon and useing up a $200 tire. so he spent at least an extra $300 to use that provisional. if someone wanted to give rick $300 i'm sure he would think about letting them use his provisional!

I hope I am not the only one who sees alot of issues with your explanation.

Ya i do

.But it doesn't matter they are going to make it sound like it is OK to take another persons provisional cause the promoter says so....They think they are the only person who has sponsors in the stands or pits watching ....Thats why they run a B-Main and an A-main....The sponsor still gets to see they car in a main event....

Like you said the rule is for Rick and his son because he spends a lot of money to sponsor the series..not for a friend of Rick's who is having a bad night and wants to race for his sponsors...

But you sugar coat it anyway you like ..it is wrong no matter what u or the Promoter says..

To be honest i don't blame the 31 team for doing it...I blame the track for allowing it to happen..

as i said, rick has the option to use the provisional how he wants. a lot of guys who race there know rick has it. no one has ever asked to use it. jason did. just because no one else has thought to use it should be of no consequence. it does not say that rick has a provisional only for his car, it says he can add one unqualified car. as i also said, i think the promotor can add a car as well. at least that is the way it was for the key race. i feel if the promotor chooses to exercise that option it is his right. again, jason gained nothing on anyone by being in the main. instead of bagging on jason for taking advantage of the rules you should be thanking him for the return of the Johnny Key race as it was initially jasons idea to do that when when the idea of having this series was concieved. sounds like a bunch of sour grapes you guys are chewing on, even if you may not blame jason for taking advantage of a written rule.

YA ...sure whatever you say...

No one ever thought to ask because no one would want to get into a race that way...lol

So what is the "rule" on who Rick or the Promoter will chose to allow a provisional to?

I have no problem with the idea of provisionals, as long as they are used and excersized fairly.

If they are not, then the series could take a serious black eye and could be labled as a 'homer track'.

If 4 teams miss the transfer, are all 4 teams fair game to ask the promoter and sponsor for a "provisional"?

As I stated earlier, this will become more of an issue if the car counts stay the same or more than they were last Friday.

If this is not addressed fairly, I wouldn't worry about B main events and higher car counts.

y is it called racing then? oo ya cuz ur suppose to race ur way into the main!

Pushin the cushin! 

Seems like some want to make it a bigger deal than it really is.

An explanation has been given. Don't like it? Pony up, sponsor the series, and run it any way you'd like.

Well said...Maybe I'm just too happy to have a nice field of 360's running on a nice track within a reasonable drive on SJ on a Friday night to give a rip about nits like this. Why look so hard to find something negative to say about what Ocean is doing? Just roll with it and enjoy the ride...

Trophy Cup......Best race of the year hands down!

Wins from a provisional. I think that if they have to take a provisional to get in the main their night is pretty bad to start with. But according to what is written above they get a hand shake and an atta boy. So in light of that if anyone can win using a provisional in the Wright One 360 series I will pony up a right rear to them for the next race since they will have surely burned it off getting there.

As long as Rick Wright applies is fairly (1st alternate or that nights main sponsor), the team/driver get no points and no payout, I don't see the problem. Sure provisionals suck but sponsors want to see their car in the A-main, not the B. Sometimes your night just sucks. You miss qualifying because of something in the motor. Tag a heat race and get involved in someone else's bad start. Race your from last out of 15 in the B and just miss a transfer. Sorry, go sit in the stands with your sponsors who also happen to be the nights sponsor of the race. Sounds pretty good? Not if your the sponsor. It is to protect those kind of investors/investments that those rules are written.

Ya that sounds all good until that driver that spins out and takes out a driver that made the race by racing and not given a free pass..

Ya i know that could happen to someone that made the race but i have to think it might make the driver a little more upset if he knew it was a person who wasn't supposed to be in the race.

I am tired of hearing about sponsors..if they don't understand that there are good nights and bad nights then you need to explain it to them..cause that is just racing....

But your not going to convince me that provisionals are good for racing...jmo

Especially when everyone dosen't have the same chance to get them...unless your friends with Rick Wright...(The series sponser)

I am guessing you are not a fan or friend of Rick Wrights' then? Do you race or are you just a fan? Just curious since you became a member just to post to this topic I figure you have a pretty strong opinion. Just wondering from which side of the fence it comes. I know no one is going to convince you that provisionals are good for racing and perhaps they are not. However, every form of motorsports has them which should tell you the necessity of them.

Whether the Newton's are friends of Rick Wright's is of no relevance at this point. They are the only team that has asked. If another team asks and is refused then you can apply the relevance of friendship.

In other forms of motorsports everyone has an equal chance to EARN a provisonal.

But that is not the case here.....you can't compare....sorry...

And i have nothing against Rick Wright or Jason Newton i am sure they are great people and they do a lot for the sport, i just don't agree with what went down.....jmo....

Provisonals for a local track is kinda uncommen. It could show some favortism. Its kinda like being in Chico for a Friday night, and when Jon Allard gets into trouble they may wait up to 4-5 laps for him. lol. See what happens here.