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BigRightRear
May 30, 2008 at 11:42:42 AM
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the UN? you mean the same folks that managed these success stories?

  • UN Probe Says Procurement at Its $5 Billion Anti-Poverty Agency a Shambles
  • Oil-Rich States Starve the World Food Program
  • U.N. Food Program Cried Poverty While Sitting on Cash
  • UNDP Procurement: Curiouser and Curiouser
  • UNDP Procurement: Exceptions Are the Rule
  • United Nations Scanner Deal, Or Is It Scammer Deal?
  • Did UNDP Provide $2.3M Worth of Equipment to Venezuela?
  • U.N. Ignores Its Own Procurement Ban
  • Did U.N. Program Secretly Funnel Money to North Korea?
  • U.N. Development Program Faces New Scandal
  • and now we hear that they rape kids...


    Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
    Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
    Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
    Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
    Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
    "I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
    weather." Van May

    BIGFISH
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    May 30, 2008 at 12:50:05 PM
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    Posted By: new-parts on May 30 2008 at 07:58:24 AM
    Thanks Kenny,way cool, too bad most of the sprint car community is
    afraid of it.
    Going to be in the High desert Saturday?


    Trust me, I wish I could. It looks like a few of the AZ boy's will be showing up. It tells me plenty when they can show up for that race and not the CRA/USAC race. I'd have liked to have been at the first one just to have heard and felt them without mufflers again.

    I remember the unlimited years well at Ascot, when guys would show up with a big hunk of steel up front and try to hang on to it. Qualifying could be very entertaining.

    Kenny

     


    Half the lies they tell about me aren't true. 

    cubicdollars
    May 31, 2008 at 09:50:31 AM
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    Posted By: BigRightRear on May 30 2008 at 11:42:42 AM

    the UN? you mean the same folks that managed these success stories?

  • UN Probe Says Procurement at Its $5 Billion Anti-Poverty Agency a Shambles
  • Oil-Rich States Starve the World Food Program
  • U.N. Food Program Cried Poverty While Sitting on Cash
  • UNDP Procurement: Curiouser and Curiouser
  • UNDP Procurement: Exceptions Are the Rule
  • United Nations Scanner Deal, Or Is It Scammer Deal?
  • Did UNDP Provide $2.3M Worth of Equipment to Venezuela?
  • U.N. Ignores Its Own Procurement Ban
  • Did U.N. Program Secretly Funnel Money to North Korea?
  • U.N. Development Program Faces New Scandal
  • and now we hear that they rape kids...



    Looks like the whole world chipped in with the U.N. report...

    http://www.millenniumassessment.org/en/Partners.aspx

    i.e. So it really is BRR vs the world...lol.

     


     

     

     

    They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com



    BigRightRear
    June 05, 2008 at 01:46:57 PM
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    add a few more knuckleheads to your "coalition science"...good luck with taming these kooks when they come at you with a syringe and a smile!

     

    Sheep flatulence inoculation developed

    New Zealand scientists claim to have developed a "flatulence inoculation" aimed at cutting down on the massive amount of methane produced by its sheep and cows.

    Sheep, cattle, goats and deer produce large quantities of gas through belching and flatulence
    REUTERS
    Sheep, cattle, goats and deer produce large quantities of gas through belching and flatulence

    Such animals are believed to be responsible for more than half of the country's greenhouse gases, causing huge environmental problems.

    But Phil Goff, New Zealand's trade minister, told an Organisation for Economic Co-Operation and Development (OECD) in Paris yesterday that a solution was in sight.

    "Our agricultural research organisation just last week was able to map the genome ... that causes methane in ruminant animals and we believe we can vaccinate against" flatulent emissions, Mr Goff said.

    Scientists in New Zealand have been working around-the-clock to reduce emissions from agriculture, such as changing the way fertilisers are used on pasture land, Mr Goff added.

    Sheep, cattle, goats and deer produce large quantities of gas through belching and flatulence, as their multiple stomachs digest grass.

    Ruminants are responsible for about 25 per cent of the methane produced in Britain, but in countries with a large agricultural sector, the proportion is much higher.

    The 45 million sheep and 10 million cattle in New Zealand burped and farted about 90 percent of that country's methane emissions, according to government figures.

    In comparison, livestock are responsible for about two per cent of the United States's greenhouse gas emissions, according to the US Environmental Protection Agency.

    Under the Kyoto Protocol to combat global warming, New Zealand must reduce its greenhouse gas emissions to 5.2 percent below 1990 levels by 2012.

    In the past New Zealand's farmers have showed their disgust at government plans to impose an animal "flatulence tax" by sending parcels of manure to members of parliament.

    The OECD conference is discussing climate change, trade and the global economy.


    Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
    Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
    Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
    Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
    Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
    "I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
    weather." Van May

    OKCFan12
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    June 05, 2008 at 10:57:48 PM
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    dude just post the link to all this crap........

    although flatulence tax - trhats kind of funny. o well i have heard dumber things like that - like al-qaeda in iraq.


    How much would could a wouldchuck chuck if a 
    wouldchuck could chuck would

    t_warrior
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    Posted By: BigRightRear on June 05 2008 at 01:46:57 PM

    add a few more knuckleheads to your "coalition science"...good luck with taming these kooks when they come at you with a syringe and a smile!

     

    Sheep flatulence inoculation developed

    New Zealand scientists claim to have developed a "flatulence inoculation" aimed at cutting down on the massive amount of methane produced by its sheep and cows.

    Sheep, cattle, goats and deer produce large quantities of gas through belching and flatulence
    REUTERS
    Sheep, cattle, goats and deer produce large quantities of gas through belching and flatulence

    Such animals are believed to be responsible for more than half of the country's greenhouse gases, causing huge environmental problems.

    But Phil Goff, New Zealand's trade minister, told an Organisation for Economic Co-Operation and Development (OECD) in Paris yesterday that a solution was in sight.

    "Our agricultural research organisation just last week was able to map the genome ... that causes methane in ruminant animals and we believe we can vaccinate against" flatulent emissions, Mr Goff said.

    Scientists in New Zealand have been working around-the-clock to reduce emissions from agriculture, such as changing the way fertilisers are used on pasture land, Mr Goff added.

    Sheep, cattle, goats and deer produce large quantities of gas through belching and flatulence, as their multiple stomachs digest grass.

    Ruminants are responsible for about 25 per cent of the methane produced in Britain, but in countries with a large agricultural sector, the proportion is much higher.

    The 45 million sheep and 10 million cattle in New Zealand burped and farted about 90 percent of that country's methane emissions, according to government figures.

    In comparison, livestock are responsible for about two per cent of the United States's greenhouse gas emissions, according to the US Environmental Protection Agency.

    Under the Kyoto Protocol to combat global warming, New Zealand must reduce its greenhouse gas emissions to 5.2 percent below 1990 levels by 2012.

    In the past New Zealand's farmers have showed their disgust at government plans to impose an animal "flatulence tax" by sending parcels of manure to members of parliament.

    The OECD conference is discussing climate change, trade and the global economy.



    Can I get some of that flatulence inoculation for my husband to use during long car trips?

    t-warrior




    jeff24
    June 06, 2008 at 05:14:32 PM
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    You hear nothing on the mainstream media about the fact that the earth's temperature dropped one/quarter of a degree in 2007 (after rising one full degree in 100 previous years) and that it was the coldest year world-wide in 11 years (some dispute that and say 17 years). And that the cold first quarter of 2008 is on pace with 2007. The new thing you've all heard I assume is that global warming can cause a "lull" and that it could get very cold for ten years or more before the real terrible global warming comes back.

    This is great stuff. Only your children's children will be able to prove Gore a phony who caused hundreds of trillions of the world's dollars to be wasted.

     

     

     


    Adding $6 trillion of debt in his 1st term and now if 
    elected again he wouldn't have to worry about an 
    electorate in 2016 so the sky is the limit.And his EPA 
    would continue to put the screws to oil drilling and 
    mining for coal.Can you say bankruptcy.

    BigRightRear
    June 08, 2008 at 08:00:41 PM
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    and now the pea brains say "idling is hard on an engine"!

    http://kstp.com/article/stories/S469008.shtml?cat=1

    KSTP.com - 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS



    By: Nicole Muehlhausen, Web Producer
    Mpls. limits vehicle idling to 3 minutes
     

    The Minneapolis City Council and Mayor R.T. Rybak approved changes Friday, to the city’s vehicle idling ordinance that aims to reduce air pollution. The ordinance limits most vehicle idling to three minutes, except in traffic.

    "Most of the air pollution in Minneapolis comes from vehicles and cutting down in idling is one easy thing we can all do for our environment, our health, and the health of our neighbors," said Mayor R.T. Rybak.

    Vehicle motors release particulate matter, dirt, nitrous oxides, hydrocarbons, carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide into the air. These chemicals are linked to increased rates of cancer, heart and lung disease and asthma and are the major source of human-caused climate change. Children are especially vulnerable to vehicle air pollution because their lungs are still developing, and they inhale more pounds of pollution per pound of body weight than adults do.

    For the driver, reducing idling saves money in fuel. On average, a car will burn more than half a gallon of fuel for every hour spent idling. In general, 10 seconds of idling uses more fuel than restarting the car, according to the U.S. Department of Energy.

    "In these times of high gas prices, it’s a way for people to save fuel. If you’re sitting in an idling car, you’re getting zero miles a gallon. That’s not good for your pocketbook or the environment," Rybak added.

    Engines generally pollute more when cold and driving a vehicle cuts warm-up time in half. Idling a cold engine actually pollutes more than driving it does and idling is harder on the engine.

    An existing ordinance already applies to large diesel trucks and buses in Minneapolis, which in general limits idling of those vehicles to five minutes.


     


    Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
    Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
    Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
    Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
    Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
    "I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
    weather." Van May

    BigRightRear
    June 13, 2008 at 08:25:07 AM
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    http://www.kusi.com/weather/colemanscorner/19842304.html

    Global Warming and the Price of a Gallon of Gas
    by John Coleman

     

    You may want to give credit where credit is due to Al Gore and his global warming campaign the next time you fill your car with gasoline, because there is a direct connection between Global Warming and four dollar a gallon gas. It is shocking, but true, to learn that the entire Global Warming frenzy is based on the environmentalist's attack on fossil fuels, particularly gasoline. All this big time science, international meetings, thick research papers, dire threats for the future; all of it, comes down to their claim that the carbon dioxide in the exhaust from your car and in the smoke stacks from our power plants is destroying the climate of planet Earth. What an amazing fraud; what a scam.

    The future of our civilization lies in the balance.

    That's the battle cry of the High Priest of Global Warming Al Gore and his fellow, agenda driven disciples as they predict a calamitous outcome from anthropogenic global warming. According to Mr. Gore the polar ice caps will collapse and melt and sea levels will rise 20 feet inundating the coastal cities making 100 million of us refugees. Vice President Gore tells us numerous Pacific islands will be totally submerged and uninhabitable. He tells us global warming will disrupt the circulation of the ocean waters, dramatically changing climates, throwing the world food supply into chaos. He tells us global warming will turn hurricanes into super storms, produce droughts, wipe out the polar bears and result in bleaching of coral reefs. He tells us tropical diseases will spread to mid latitudes and heat waves will kill tens of thousands. He preaches to us that we must change our lives and eliminate fossil fuels or face the dire consequences. The future of our civilization is in the balance.

    With a preacher's zeal, Mr. Gore sets out to strike terror into us and our children and make us feel we are all complicit in the potential demise of the planet.

    Here is my rebuttal.

    There is no significant man made global warming. There has not been any in the past, there is none now and there is no reason to fear any in the future. The climate of Earth is changing. It has always changed. But mankind's activities have not overwhelmed or significantly modified the natural forces.

    Through all history, Earth has shifted between two basic climate regimes: ice ages and what paleoclimatologists call "Interglacial periods". For the past 10 thousand years the Earth has been in an interglacial period. That might well be called nature's global warming because what happens during an interglacial period is the Earth warms up, the glaciers melt and life flourishes. Clearly from our point of view, an interglacial period is greatly preferred to the deadly rigors of an ice age. Mr. Gore and his crowd would have us believe that the activities of man have overwhelmed nature during this interglacial period and are producing an unprecedented, out of control warming.

    Well, it is simply not happening. Worldwide there was a significant natural warming trend in the 1980's and 1990's as a Solar cycle peaked with lots of sunspots and solar flares. That ended in 1998 and now the Sun has gone quiet with fewer and fewer Sun spots, and the global temperatures have gone into decline. Earth has cooled for almost ten straight years. So, I ask Al Gore, where's the global warming?

    The cooling trend is so strong that recently the head of the United Nation's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change had to acknowledge it. He speculated that nature has temporarily overwhelmed mankind's warming and it may be ten years or so before the warming returns. Oh, really. We are supposed to be in a panic about man-made global warming and the whole thing takes a ten year break because of the lack of Sun spots. If this weren't so serious, it would be laughable.

    Now allow me to talk a little about the science behind the global warming frenzy. I have dug through thousands of pages of research papers, including the voluminous documents published by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. I have worked my way through complicated math and complex theories. Here's the bottom line: the entire global warming scientific case is based on the increase in carbon dioxide in the atmosphere from the use of fossil fuels. They don't have any other issue. Carbon Dioxide, that's it.

    Hello Al Gore; Hello UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Your science is flawed; your hypothesis is wrong; your data is manipulated. And, may I add, your scare tactics are deplorable. The Earth does not have a fever. Carbon dioxide does not cause significant global warming.

    The focus on atmospheric carbon dioxide grew out a study by Roger Revelle who was an esteemed scientist at the Scripps Oceanographic Institute. He took his research with him when he moved to Harvard and allowed his students to help him process the data for his paper. One of those students was Al Gore. That is where Gore got caught up in this global warming frenzy. Revelle's paper linked the increases in carbon dioxide, CO2, in the atmosphere with warming. It labeled CO2 as a greenhouse gas.

    Charles Keeling, another researcher at the Scripps Oceanographic Institute, set up a system to make continuous CO2 measurements. His graph of these increases has now become known as the Keeling Curve. When Charles Keeling died in 2005, his son David, also at Scripps, took over the measurements. Here is what the Keeling curve shows: an increase in CO2 from 315 parts per million in 1958 to 385 parts per million today, an increase of 70 parts per million or about 20 percent.

    All the computer models, all of the other findings, all of the other angles of study, all come back to and are based on CO2 as a significant greenhouse gas. It is not.

    Here is the deal about CO2, carbon dioxide. It is a natural component of our atmosphere. It has been there since time began. It is absorbed and emitted by the oceans. It is used by every living plant to trigger photosynthesis. Nothing would be green without it. And we humans; we create it. Every time we breathe out, we emit carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. It is not a pollutant. It is not smog. It is a naturally occurring invisible gas.

    Let me illustrate. I estimate that this square in front of my face contains 100,000 molecules of atmosphere. Of those 100,000 only 38 are CO2; 38 out of a hundred thousand. That makes it a trace component. Let me ask a key question: how can this tiny trace upset the entire balance of the climate of Earth? It can't. That's all there is to it; it can't.

    The UN IPCC has attracted billions of dollars for the research to try to make the case that CO2 is the culprit of run-away, man-made global warming. The scientists have come up with very complex creative theories and done elaborate calculations and run computer models they say prove those theories. They present us with a concept they call radiative forcing. The research organizations and scientists who are making a career out of this theory, keep cranking out the research papers. Then the IPCC puts on big conferences at exotic places, such as the recent conference in Bali. The scientists endorse each other's papers, they are summarized and voted on, and viola, we are told global warming is going to kill us all unless we stop burning fossil fuels.

    May I stop here for a few historical notes? First, the internal combustion engine and gasoline were awful polluters when they were first invented. And, both gasoline and automobile engines continued to leave a layer of smog behind right up through the 1960's. Then science and engineering came to the environmental rescue. Better exhaust and ignition systems, catalytic converters, fuel injectors, better engineering throughout the engine and reformulated gasoline have all contributed to a huge reduction in the exhaust emissions from today's cars. Their goal then was to only exhaust carbon dioxide and water vapor, two gases widely accepted as natural and totally harmless. Anyone old enough to remember the pall of smog that used to hang over all our cities knows how much improvement there has been. So the environmentalists, in their battle against fossil fuels and automobiles had a very good point forty years ago, but now they have to focus almost entirely on the once harmless carbon dioxide. And, that is the rub. Carbon dioxide is not an environmental problem; they just want you now to think it is.

    Numerous independent research projects have been done about the greenhouse impact from increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide. These studies have proven to my total satisfaction that CO2 is not creating a major greenhouse effect and is not causing an increase in temperatures. By the way, before his death, Roger Revelle coauthored a paper cautioning that CO2 and its greenhouse effect did not warrant extreme countermeasures.

    So now it has come down to an intense campaign, orchestrated by environmentalists claiming that the burning of fossil fuels dooms the planet to run-away global warming. Ladies and Gentlemen, that is a myth.

    So how has the entire global warming frenzy with all its predictions of dire consequences, become so widely believed, accepted and regarded as a real threat to planet Earth? That is the most amazing part of the story.

    To start with global warming has the backing of the United Nations, a major world force. Second, it has the backing of a former Vice President and very popular political figure. Third it has the endorsement of Hollywood, and that's enough for millions. And, fourth, the environmentalists love global warming. It is their tool to combat fossil fuels. So with the environmentalists, the UN, Gore and Hollywood touting Global Warming and predictions of doom and gloom, the media has scrambled with excitement to climb aboard. After all the media loves a crisis. From YK2 to killer bees the media just loves to tell us our lives are threatened. And the media is biased toward liberal, so it's pre-programmed to support Al Gore and UN. CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, The New York Times, The LA Times, The Washington Post, the Associated Press and here in San Diego The Union Tribune are all constantly promoting the global warming crisis.

    So who is going to go against all of that power? Not the politicians. So now the President of the United States, just about every Governor, most Senators and most Congress people, both of the major current candidates for President, most other elected officials on all levels of government are all riding the Al Gore Global Warming express. That is one crowded bus.

    I suspect you haven't heard it because the mass media did not report it, but I am not alone on the no man-made warming side of this issue. On May 20th, a list of the names of over thirty-one thousand scientists who refute global warming was released. Thirty-one thousand of which 9,000 are Ph.ds. Think about that. Thirty-one thousand. That dwarfs the supposed 2,500 scientists on the UN panel. In the past year, five hundred of scientists have issued public statements challenging global warming. A few more join the chorus every week. There are about 100 defectors from the UN IPCC. There was an International Conference of Climate Change Skeptics in New York in March of this year. One hundred of us gave presentations. Attendance was limited to six hundred people. Every seat was taken. There are a half dozen excellent internet sites that debunk global warming. And, thank goodness for KUSI and Michael McKinnon, its owner. He allows me to post my comments on global warming on the website KUSI.com. Following the publicity of my position form Fox News, Glen Beck on CNN, Rush Limbaugh and a host of other interviews, thousands of people come to the website and read my comments. I get hundreds of supportive emails from them. No I am not alone and the debate is not over.

    In my remarks in New York I speculated that perhaps we should sue Al Gore for fraud because of his carbon credits trading scheme. That remark has caused a stir in the fringe media and on the internet. The concept is that if the media won't give us a hearing and the other side will not debate us, perhaps we could use a Court of law to present our papers and our research and if the Judge is unbiased and understands science, we win. The media couldn't ignore that. That idea has become the basis for legal research by notable attorneys and discussion among global warming debunkers, but it's a long way from the Court room.

    I am very serious about this issue. I think stamping out the global warming scam is vital to saving our wonderful way of life.

    The battle against fossil fuels has controlled policy in this country for decades. It was the environmentalist's prime force in blocking any drilling for oil in this country and the blocking the building of any new refineries, as well. So now the shortage they created has sent gasoline prices soaring. And, it has lead to the folly of ethanol, which is also partly behind the fuel price increases; that and our restricted oil policy. The ethanol folly is also creating a food crisis throughput the world – it is behind the food price rises for all the grains, for cereals, bread, everything that relies on corn or soy or wheat, including animals that are fed corn, most processed foods that use corn oil or soybean oil or corn syrup. Food shortages or high costs have led to food riots in some third world countries and made the cost of eating out or at home budget busting for many.

    So now the global warming myth actually has lead to the chaos we are now enduring with energy and food prices. We pay for it every time we fill our gas tanks. Not only is it running up gasoline prices, it has changed government policy impacting our taxes, our utility bills and the entire focus of government funding. And, now the Congress is considering a cap and trade carbon credits policy. We the citizens will pay for that, too. It all ends up in our taxes and the price of goods and services.

    So the Global warming frenzy is, indeed, threatening our civilization. Not because global warming is real; it is not. But because of the all the horrible side effects of the global warming scam.

    I love this civilization. I want to do my part to protect it.

    If Al Gore and his global warming scare dictates the future policy of our governments, the current economic downturn could indeed become a recession, drift into a depression and our modern civilization could fall into an abyss. And it would largely be a direct result of the global warming frenzy.


    My mission, in what is left of a long and exciting lifetime, is to stamp out this Global Warming silliness and let all of us get on with enjoying our lives and loving our planet, Earth.


    Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
    Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
    Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
    Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
    Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
    "I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
    weather." Van May


    OKCFan12
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    June 13, 2008 at 08:45:12 AM
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    This message was edited on June 13, 2008 at 08:46:50 AM by OKCFan12

    man you are a Terry Nichols wanna-be.


    How much would could a wouldchuck chuck if a 
    wouldchuck could chuck would

    BigRightRear
    June 13, 2008 at 12:10:30 PM
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    really? what did he have to say about the global warming scam?


    Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
    Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
    Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
    Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
    Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
    "I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
    weather." Van May

    Faster Pussycat
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    June 13, 2008 at 02:42:39 PM
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    This message was edited on June 13, 2008 at 03:34:05 PM by Faster Pussycat
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    Posted By: OKCFan12 on June 13 2008 at 08:45:12 AM

    man you are a Terry Nichols wanna-be.



    WTF...even from your left-leaning, narrow-minded POV, that's got to be a stretch...

    Refusing to blindly buy into the global warming auxesis and anti-establishmentarian terrorism....put down the glass pipe my brother!

    Terry Nichols/Timothy McVeigh to Ed and Elaine Brown/Randy Weaver/Ed Griffin to Ron Paul....I'll buy that jump, but BRR to Terry Nichols???

    Did you live in OK prior to April 19, 1995....or is OKC just a catchy handle???


    "As long as I can have a fast boat, a margarita 
    machine and can light my hair on fire, I'll be just 
    fine."
    
    Jason Giambi
    


    3rdturn
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    Hey BRR I guess you can buy marbles for the kids but if they aren't smart enough to put them in a bag they get lost.....Gore is just another type of domestic terrorist much like to bozos from ELF....I think the dumbing down of America that the commie libs have been teaching is now starting to be realized...Oh well once the massiah Osama is elected we will only have to worry about which sheep we'll be riding to the local mosque.....And I'm not going to let Mclaim off the hook either Cap and Trade my a%%...... I'm sure that will really work...LOL>!!! Then we have both wanting to take the profits from the oil co's as a pennality....Socialism at it's finest... Did ya hear that Exon is selling it's domestic stations cause they aren't profitable??? Lets see big oil makes a profit of 8% and that is just tooooooooooooooooooo much but hedge funds make 87% and that's O.K.... LOL!!! the libbers just can't talk about that.....



    cubicdollars
    June 13, 2008 at 11:50:34 PM
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    This message was edited on June 13, 2008 at 11:51:25 PM by cubicdollars
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    Posted By: 3rdturn on June 13 2008 at 03:16:42 PM

    Hey BRR I guess you can buy marbles for the kids but if they aren't smart enough to put them in a bag they get lost.....Gore is just another type of domestic terrorist much like to bozos from ELF....I think the dumbing down of America that the commie libs have been teaching is now starting to be realized...Oh well once the massiah Osama is elected we will only have to worry about which sheep we'll be riding to the local mosque.....And I'm not going to let Mclaim off the hook either Cap and Trade my a%%...... I'm sure that will really work...LOL>!!! Then we have both wanting to take the profits from the oil co's as a pennality....Socialism at it's finest... Did ya hear that Exon is selling it's domestic stations cause they aren't profitable??? Lets see big oil makes a profit of 8% and that is just tooooooooooooooooooo much but hedge funds make 87% and that's O.K.... LOL!!! the libbers just can't talk about that.....



    sign3

    Click here, for video of Bush saying Global Warming is real.


     

     

     

    They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com


    OKCFan12
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    wow how that brought the right wing screwballs out of the woodwork. lol. but of course they would be the most vocal - - - the prospects for the party are horrible and getting worse by the day. I imagine it is quite frustrating when even most reps are abandoning the same extreme right wing ideology that allowed the grab all for 6 years. they have to drop it in order to distance themselves from the 70+ percent who hate this administration. which leaves some of you fellas without much representation. thats a great future prospect for those looking into the future with reason, common sense, and hope.

    yes pussy I have lived in the okc area for my 26 years and change.


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    wow how that brought the right wing screwballs out of the woodwork. lol. but of course they would be the most vocal - - - the prospects for the party are horrible and getting worse by the day. I imagine it is quite frustrating when even most reps are abandoning the same extreme right wing ideology that allowed the grab all for 6 years. they have to drop it in order to distance themselves from the 70+ percent who hate this administration. which leaves some of you fellas without much representation. thats a great future prospect for those looking into the future with reason, common sense, and hope.

    yes pussy I have lived in the okc area for my 26 years and change.



    some day you will grow a brain, but sometimes it take liberals decades to do that. Till then, vote for the Muslim anti white American candidate of your choice, or maybe even a left wing kook.


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    some day you will grow a brain, but sometimes it take liberals decades to do that. Till then, vote for the Muslim anti white American candidate of your choice, or maybe even a left wing kook.



    It's funny Duane should mention growing a brain as he has a complete lack of one himself. You right wing pigeons keep towing the party line right over the waterfall. I will vote for the candidate with the most likely chance to correct the horrendous errors of Bush, INC., that candidate is Obama. He isnt perfect but compared to what Bush, INC. has done to this country he is a modern day saint. At the end of the day I feel both parties are corrupt but at least one side has some fraction of democracy at heart the neo-con right wingers are nothing more than fascist pigs. I would wager a years wages that if you were to test the IQ of left leaning folks to that of right leaning folks, it would be a landslide victory for the left. We always hear from you right wing nuts that the colleges are TOO LIBERAL and full of wacky socialist professors...well they the should be that way, anybody who does at least a half days worth of research figures out pretty quick that the neo-con right wingers are full of sh*t and looking to screw you. If you were an intelligent person Duane I would imagine you would be more left leaning as well but I digress...
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    some day you will grow a brain, but sometimes it take liberals decades to do that. Till then, vote for the Muslim anti white American candidate of your choice, or maybe even a left wing kook.



    i guess truth dont matter when your party is getting the shit kicked out of em. you know damn well obama aint muslim - or at least you know it about as well as you know anything else. but it is an inconvenient truth - that you have to overblow the crap out of falsehoods and then someone elses remarks to cling to your crumbling foundations.

    he aint a muslim - and he damn sure aint anti-american. u r full of horse crap. if anyone is anti american it is the folks you conservatives have supported for quite some time now. you highlight the smaller and less frequent mistake the "liberals" make ------ while completely ignoring how the conservative base has tanked this nation in every conceivable way. its no vote who you have backed for the last - i mean at least since 2000. instead od re-thinking some things - you just deflect those mistakes - some of the biggest this nation ever made. like trying to justify the pathetic level of response to hurricane katrina for social and racial reasons. its funny you call obama anti-american - - - i guess it takes one to falsely accuse another of it. america aint just for white folks. or for the rich. but if conservatives had their way - it would be. actually they did have their way - and it has been. but now the greed, corruption has been catching up. and unless it is averted - its nothing more than a group of traitors. and as more and more lose their jobs and their entire way of life - - - they may do something they never did before - stop and think about why. having to resort to such pathtic stuff as knowingly making false claims as large as that - only proves the extent of the disarray the entire conservative foundation is in.

     


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    i guess truth dont matter when your party is getting the shit kicked out of em. you know damn well obama aint muslim - or at least you know it about as well as you know anything else. but it is an inconvenient truth - that you have to overblow the crap out of falsehoods and then someone elses remarks to cling to your crumbling foundations.

    he aint a muslim - and he damn sure aint anti-american. u r full of horse crap. if anyone is anti american it is the folks you conservatives have supported for quite some time now. you highlight the smaller and less frequent mistake the "liberals" make ------ while completely ignoring how the conservative base has tanked this nation in every conceivable way. its no vote who you have backed for the last - i mean at least since 2000. instead od re-thinking some things - you just deflect those mistakes - some of the biggest this nation ever made. like trying to justify the pathetic level of response to hurricane katrina for social and racial reasons. its funny you call obama anti-american - - - i guess it takes one to falsely accuse another of it. america aint just for white folks. or for the rich. but if conservatives had their way - it would be. actually they did have their way - and it has been. but now the greed, corruption has been catching up. and unless it is averted - its nothing more than a group of traitors. and as more and more lose their jobs and their entire way of life - - - they may do something they never did before - stop and think about why. having to resort to such pathtic stuff as knowingly making false claims as large as that - only proves the extent of the disarray the entire conservative foundation is in.

     



    IF this Muslim, anti America, anti white person is you candidate, he will make GWB look like a smart person, and we all know his short comings.

    Not that I support McCain 1005, but he is more middle of the road than anyone who has run for office in my lifetime, and in most cases is OPPOSITE of the sperm test gone wrong GWB.

    You don't see me defend Bush, but rather I voted against another despicable liar (John Kerry).

    A vote for bush was an anti Kerry vote, not a PRO Bush vote.

    When you are 25 and not a Democrat, you don't have a heart, when you are 55 and not a republican, you don't have a brain.

    Next thing out of your pie hole;e is you think the oil companies should be taxed even more on their 4 cents a gallon profit on gas, but you think it is ok for the Government bodies to make 49 cents a gallon here in Iowa.

    BTW, customers pay the corporations taxes, NOT the companies.

    As full of shit as you are, I am sure your brain will grow someday, as it is being well fertilised.

    The Jihad Candidate
    > >
    > > by Rich Carroll
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Conspiracy theories make for interesting novels when the storyline is
    > > not so absurd that it can grasp our attention. 'The Manchurian Candidate'
    > > and 'Seven Days in May' are examples of plausible chains of events that
    > > captures the reader's imagination at best-seller level. 'What if' has
    > always
    > > been the solid grist of fiction.
    > >
    > > Get yourself something cool to drink, find a relaxing position, but
    > > before you continue, visualise the television photos of two jet airliners
    > > smashing into the Twin Towers in lower Manhattan and remind yourself this
    > > cowardly act of Muslim terror was planned for eight years.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > How long did it take Islam and their oil money to find a candidate for
    > > President of the United States? As long as it took them to place a Senator
    > > from Illinois and Minnesota? The same amount of time to create a large
    > > Muslim enclave in Detroit? The time it took them to build over 2,000
    > mosques
    > > in America? The same amount of time required to place radical wahabbist
    > > clerics in our military and prisons as 'chaplains'?
    > >
    > > Find a candidate who can get away with lying about their father being
    > a
    > > 'freedom fighter' when he was actually part of the most corrupt and
    > violent
    > > government in Kenya's history. Find a candidate with close ties to The
    > > Nation of Islam and the violent Muslim overthrow in Africa, a candidate
    > who
    > > is educ ated among white infidel Americans but hides his bitterness and
    > > anger behind a superficial toothy smile. Find a candidate who changes his
    > > American name of Barry to the Muslim name of Barrack Hussein Obama, and
    > dares
    > > anyone to question his true ties under the banner of 'racism'. Nurture
    > this
    > > candidate in an atmosphere of anti-white American teaching and surround
    > him
    > > with Islamic teachers. Provide him with a bitter, racist, anti-white,
    > > anti-American wife, and supply him with Muslim middle east connections and
    > > Islamic monies. Allow him to be clever enough to get away with his
    > > anti-white rhetoric and proclaim he will give $834 billion taxpayer
    > dollars
    > > to the Muslim controlled United Nations for use in Africa.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Install your candidate in an atmosphere of deception because
    > questioning
    > > him on any issue involving Africa or Islam would be seen as 'bigoted
    > > racism'; two words too powerful to allow the citizenry to be informed of
    > > facts. Allow your candidate to employ several black racist Nation of Islam
    > > Louis Farrakhan followers as members of his Illinois Senatorial and
    > campaign
    > > staffs.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Where is the bloodhound American 'free press' who doggedly overturned
    > > every stone in the Watergate case? Where are our nation's reporters that
    > > have placed every Presidential candidate under the microscope of detailed
    > > scrutiny; the same press who pursue Bush's 'Skull and Bones' club or ran
    > > other candidates off with persistent detective and research work? Why
    > > haven't 'newsmen' pursued the 65 blatant lies told by this candidate
    > during
    > > the Presidential primaries? Where are the stories about this candidate's
    > > cousin and the Muslim butchery in Africa? Since when did our national
    > press
    > > corps become weak, timid, and silent? Why haven't they regaled us with the
    > > long list of socialists and communists who have surrounded this 'out of
    > > nowhere' Democrat candidate or that his church re-printed the Hamas
    > > Manifesto in their bulletin, and that his 'close pastor friend and mentor'
    > > met with Middle East terrorist Moammar Gaddafi, (Guide of the First of
    > > September Great Revolution of the Socialist People's Libyan Arab
    > > Jamahiriya)? Why isn't the American press telling us this candidate is
    > > supported by every Muslim organization in the world?
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > As an ultimate slap in the face, be blatant in the fact your candidate
    > > has ZERO interest in traditional American values and has the most liberal
    > > voting record in U.S. Senate history. Why has the American main stream
    > media
    > > clammed-up on any negative reporting on Barrack Hussein Obama? Why will they
    > > print Hillary Rodham Clinton's name but never write his middle name? Is it
    > > not his name? Why, suddenly, is ANY information about this candidate not
    > > coming from main stream media, but from the blogosphere by citizens
    > seeking
    > > facts and the truth? Why isn't our media connecting the dots with Islam?
    > Why
    > > do they focus on 'those bad American soldiers' while Islam slaughters non
    > > Muslims daily in 44 countries around the globe? Why does our media refer
    > to
    > > Darfur as 'ethnic cleansing' instead of what it really is; Muslims killing
    > > non Muslims! There is enough strange, anti-American activity surrounding B
    > > arak Hussein Obama to peek the curiosity of any reporter. WHERE IS OUR
    > > INVESTIGATIVE MEDIA!?
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > A formal plan for targeting America was devised three years after the
    > > Iranian revolution in 1982. The plan was summarized in a 1991 memorandum
    > by
    > > Mohamed Akram, an operative of the global Muslim Brotherhood. 'The process
    > > of settlement' of Muslims in America, Akram explained, 'is a civilization
    > > jihad process.' This means that members of the Brotherhood must understand
    > > that their work in 'America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and
    > > destroying the Western civilization from within and sabotaging its
    > miserable
    > > house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is
    > eliminated
    > > and God's religion is made victorious over all other religions.'
    > >
    > > There is terrorism we can see, smell and fear, but there is a new kind
    > > of terror invading The United States in the form of Sharia law and
    > finance.
    > > Condoning it is civilization suicide. Middle East Muslims are coming to
    > > America in record numbers and building hate infidel mosques, buying our
    > > corporations, suing us for our traditions, but they and the whole subject
    > of
    > > Islam is white noise leaving uninformed Americans about who and what is
    > > really peaceful. Where is our investigative press? Any criticism of Islam
    > or
    > > their intentions, even though Islamic leaders state their intentions daily
    > > around the globe, brings-forth a volley of 'racist' from the left-wing
    > > Democrat crowd.
    > >
    > > Lies and deception behind a master plan - the ingredients for 'The
    > > Manchurian Candidate' or the placement of an anti-American President in
    > our
    > > nation's White House? Is it mere coincidence that an anti-capitalist run
    > for
    > > President at the same time Islamic sharia finance and law is trying to
    > make
    > > advancing strides into the United States? Is it mere coincidence this sa m
    > e
    > > candidate wants to dis-arm our nuclear capability at a time when terrorist
    > > Muslim nations are expanding their nuclear weapons capability? Is it mere
    > > coincidence this candidate wants to reduce our military at a time of
    > global
    > > jihad from Muslim nations?
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Change for America?
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > What change?
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > To become another 'nation of Islam'?


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    OKC - you are the biggest political lunatic on this board - all over the f-ing place with one conspiratorial noting after another. you come on here and compare me (someone you have never met) with Nichols as though you had a pipe dream that you know something about him. your wikipedia understanding of ANY issue you weigh in on (360s included) is walking talking proof of the deprogramming session that will probably have to bhe imposed buy a judge at some point ahead in your miserable existence. the associations you unwittingly make in you zealous "belief" in global warming when the COOLING TEMPERATURES are not only FACT but now public knowledge that your camp is eroding from the inside out, you turn to quotes from guys who you despise like Bush and McCain to bouy the failing notion.

    FACT - Voting Americans are polling near 60% IN FAVOR of DRILLING and the last time I check - Al GOres electric car was REJECTED by the market pl;ace and EVEN THAT FAT HEAD DOESN'T DRIVE ONE. Hillary and Obama are riding in SUBURBANS to these capaign events.

    Obama and his buddy Farahkan have more in common with Nichols and his buddy John Doe #2 that was PROTECTED FROM ARREST AND PROSECUTION by Clinton than anything going on the right.

    For the record - I think McCain is a political jackass and always has been jackass since he came into politics - that opinion was formed in the early 90s when I watched his horseshit LIVE on CSPAN and his standing with me has not changed. The liberal agenda has the deck stacked on both sides of the aisle for this election. At this point - everyone pulling EITHER LEVER is VOTING for a MINUMUM of $1.50/gallon in ADDITIONAL GAS TAXES!

    you lefties are going to get what you want is a round about sort of way - and don't look to the pick up truck crowd to save your asses when the shit hits the fan....last time i checked, the moseuqes in this country were located in BLUE VOTING DISTRICTS in these BLUE DUMP CITIES!

    when they start burning your cars and running your streets like they did in France in the recent car burning fiasco don't act surprised!

    Obama was born a muslim and according to the muslim faith, any attempt to change that status to ANY other religion is a capital crime against their belief. i will let you gues - or ask Obam's budd6y Farakhan how good practicing muslims carry out the penalty phase for a capital criminal.

    the wet dream phase of the liberal Obama-Love-Orama is already over...your candidated convinced Hilree to shut up for 7 days - a miracle in itself since 1991. all that has happend is the 8internal war within your party has been drived underground and the plumbers are now running the show.

    prepare to face the music - get rehab now.

    Bob Barr - step up to the plate and state your claim

     


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