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"Since nobody wants to wait a minute and see what the verdict is on the decisions that need to be made, I'll post what I know is being TALKED about. As with ANY big announcement and grand plans with the All Stars over the past several years, I should know better than to put out information before it is carved in granite, because somebody usually finds a way to screw up a great idea...but here it goes:"

EXACTLY MY POINT! If none of the stuff is carved in granite and it is just being mentioned, should you be posting it all over the internet??

do it in the dirt

I'm sorry - I thought this was a racing message board where people like to talk about racing topics...and the potential of something like this is worthy of talking about. I'm not sure why some people always have to be anti-everything and look for every possible bad side of things. I'm pretty excited that this is even being discussed - its been talked about for YEARS. If the fans get behind it and support the IDEA, things are more likely to progress in a positive direction. If the "naysayers" such as yourself go out of their way to shoot down a good idea that is on its way to becoming reality, some people may question how much support this sort of thing could potentially have and back out of it before it is even off the ground. I posted the bit of info I had to "test the waters" and see what sort of reaction and support we would get from the fans, especially the ones in PA. I'm sure none of this makes any sense to you however - and thats fine. This is more than just an idea, the plans are being made and the reality of it is hopefully right around the corner. We want to do this. Other than the issue of the Selinsgrove race and your posts, the support has been positive. People want to see this happen and the promoters and sponsors know this. Will it all work out??? We'll all find out together.

Former Owner/President of FAST and Black Swamp Media
Group. Currently just another fan in the stands.

Why not KC? Its about 100 miles closer for the Penn. teams.

Or Williams Grove. LOL. KC would not exactly the neutral ground many people on here try to tout.

On the surface, this sounds like a good idea. But Lawrenceburg is too far away from central PA for this to work. Not bashing, that's just my opinion. I don't think that would be fair in the least to give track points for a show nine hours away from the track you race weekly. That is actually kinda ridiculous.

As far as the $10,000 to win show at SG the same weekend, Selinsgrove had five races for the 410s last year. This year, they have four shows for the 410s. If the top teams don't support a $10,000 to win show at the track, there will not be any 410 races at the place in the future.

Undoubtably the most exciting new show in many a year. Innovation like this is exactly what the sport needs. Good luck to those involved!

www.sprintcardaily.com

That an event like this is even being discussed is truly amazing considering how sprint car racing has been able to continually wound itself with political infighting over the years. Here are people trying to put on a really great spectacle of racing by cooperation among tracks and a sanctioning body that, together, look toward the future with hope and promise. These people are willing to take risks to brighten the future of the sport. How can that be bad?

This can develope into a truly national event. Posse vs. Ohio vs. the world. 30K on the line. A wonderful facility with a promoter who understands sports and entertainment marketing in his area. A very large population base (Cincinnat, Dayton, even Indy and Louisville) locally and regionally and a destination event for sprint car fans from the east, mideast and midwest. The city is behind the event. Local businesses will cater to fans. There will be entertainment. The track is a "drivers" track where horsepower shouldn't be as much a factor. There will be an exciting format for racing each night. Fans can attend for likely a fraction of what a week's stay and travel to Knoxville would cost. Wide open racing...probably thirty teams could win the finale, if not more. It's a showcase for the weekly and regional racer.

The All Stars even have a radio network that will provide radio and internet coverage in Ohio and probably PA. for the event.

From what I hear, PA. track operators are willing to assume some of the finamcial risk AND pay points for their individual tracks. Guy Webb is also putting his money and political capital where his mouth is. The Ohio tracks are willing to go along, too. I hope some of the Midwest racers from Knoxville take advantage of the opportunity. This can be a really outstanding national event.

I understand Selinsgrove is a traditional race. That said, didn't it used to pay much more than it does now? What happened?

Like Andre says...this is the kind of innovation the sport needs. I encourage everyone to support this effort in PA, Ohio and everywhere else.

Selinsgrove paid $50,000 to win twice in th early 1990s, when it was an Outlaw race. The Outlaws have not been back since Todd Shaffer declared from Victory Lane, "There's only one No. 11 at Selinsgrove, and that's me."

Points toward a track title at a race nine hours away is ridiculous.

In some sports if the other team doesn't show up it is considered a forfeit. :-)

(That should get me banned from the VIP section, eh BRR? LOL)

Former Owner/President of FAST and Black Swamp Media
Group. Currently just another fan in the stands.

Um, check out my earlier posts. I said earlier in the thread that it is a good idea on the surface. What I said was ridiculous was awarding points for a track title at a race nine hours away. How many places give points for their track title if guys tow to the Knoxville Nationals or King's Royal? If you find me any, I will retract my earlier statement.

It seems ( I don't have stats to back it up...calling Bill W...) that the number of cars from PA. and Ohio competing at the Knoxville Nationals has gone down as the years roll on. If so...why? I know that the PA. tracks race the same night as the Nationals and at least one Ohio track scheduled a high paying race the same night as the Nationals final last year. What, if anything, does that say?

What we can have at Lawrenceburg is a truly cooperative effort among tracks and a sanctioning body that represents about 75% of the 410 winged sprint car teams in America, all taking a measure of risk to build the future of the sport. This cooperation amounts to more than just putting on a race...consensus on rules, scheduling, ect. are all things that can accomplished through these efforts.

Maybe that's a big part of the reason these tracks are willing to pay points nine hours away. Bettering the sport as a whole is a good thing.

I agree paying points at a track 9 hrs. away is crazy. I can't see any track rewarding the weekly drivers with money or points to go to another track to race. Those that stay and race at their weekly track are the ones to be rewarded.

From those I've talked to who would know, even Knoxville has explored different ideas about how to attract more of the weekly racers from PA. and Ohio to the Nationals or pre-Nationals event. They see a need to do so.

If this event can be brought to life, it will be a great thing for ALL of sprint car racing...including Pennsylvania. Obviously, if it happens, the PA. tracks see it as a worthy investment.

This is an awesome idea!!!! Now, if we could get the IRA involved........

The IRA drivers are more than welcome to drive South and join the party!!!

Former Owner/President of FAST and Black Swamp Media
Group. Currently just another fan in the stands.