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February 08, 2008 at
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February 08, 2008 at
09:34:10 PM by catpuppy
More tracks in the state had a common set of rules. I have a feeling that most un-knowledable fans of dirt car racing or any car racing at all feel kinda intimidated about going to a place that they have no idea of what types of cars are racing.
Just something I thought could be discussed while we are in a slow time of the year.
"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands
in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he
stands at times of challenge and controversy."
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February 11, 2008 at
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If you look at it from a promoter's standpoint and a "health of the local track" point of view, common rules are no big deal. A promoter must build a program around the racers that will be there every week, not those who will drop in a couple of times per year. The vast majority of racers only run one night a week. If they run two nights, it is at tracks 50 or less miles apart. Yes it would be nice to be able to get a wild hair and go run Enid, Kellyville, or Ardmore. But not enough people do it to make it a big part of the program. I don't think promoters try to set rules to keep racers from straying, but common rules are pretty far down the list. As they should be.
Another problem is that many promoters stupidly listen to racers when they change rules. They allow this and that and end up with a bastard class. Who is to blame? Maybe enough to spread around.
There have been chances to have common rules. IMCA had the best chance of bringing affordable racing and common rules to the masses. But people cried about the claim and they have diminished in importance - at least around here.
Then you have satellite tracks like Brill. They depend on OKC cars to fill the field. They almost have to match their rules to SFS.
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February 11, 2008 at
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no elaborating on either of those posts - but JD and Spivey - those were really well spoken and well thought out posts. I think I agree with both. and both are interesting perspectives for sure......
and I also agree with the thoughts of organizations like the ORA. By all rights - they should be able to do a lot of good. most have their own reasons on how they could - I don't really have any. But I would think their point in ever being around was to be a posistive in many aspects of local and statewide racing. with good leadership and good support - it could be a great thing. I think that sort of philosophy relates to a whole slew of things - not just racing associations. maybe as with anything - if enough people want stuff to be better or to change - they will all work together to make it at that way.
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February 11, 2008 at
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I am convinced that the kind of personality it would take to fill the stands and give the racers a good payout at the window would also have to have bodyguards at least for the first five years whilst he is busy reforming the scene.
The cars may change along with the rules and get faster. Human nature and it's wish to be entertained by the power of the moment doesn't. Looking like everybody else is not entertaining.
Hate me if you will, but this sport needs to break out of it's "sheepherd mentality". You know it exists.
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February 11, 2008 at
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It's just my opinion...cause ya know i have one. Once again the ora is a joke. they are only there to sell programs. If they or any of thier members did as it was meant in the the begining, the would tell the track what the racers and fans wanted and if the track didn't do that they would strike. But you always have racers like the Jennings....no offense.....But they will always be there reguardless of the rules or the bs! Many don't like me but all will agree, thats like gold...take it to the bank.
Oh ya....for those of you checking, some words are misspelled just 4 u!!!!!!
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February 11, 2008 at
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Well I would like to apologize to the fans for my family wanting to race and have fun. haha
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February 11, 2008 at
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Posted By: cheese21 on February 11 2008 at 10:01:37 PM
Well I would like to apologize to the fans for my family wanting to race and have fun. haha
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Good point....Need I say more.
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February 11, 2008 at
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I agree with Larry that - like most stuff - the intent was really sound. not to say they aren't now - but I do think that despite whatever in the past - the ORA could still do a lot of good. I think before they could though they would have to have big time support from drivers, promoters, and other folks. I don't think it would necessarily have to be universal support - but definitely a large majority while keeping the minority in mind as well. But brian brings up a great point about the type of leadership needed to change things. With many things - and we're all guilty of it - everyone bitches about change - and when they get it - bitch some more. lol catch 22.
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