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OU got beat by not one but two unranked teams. OU played some powerhouses (Utah State, North Texas) and a weak Miami team. OU also had trouble with Iowa State and gave up 500 yards to Baylor

It's not that hard. All they need to do is have the eight teams making the BCS play in a first-round, in mid-December, with the semi-finals around Christmas. The two lowest seeded first-round losing teams would play eachother in the lowest BCS bowl on January 1 (The bowls would still be rotated from year to year). The other two losing teams in the next higher bowl. Then the two semi-final losing teams would play their bowl on January 2, with the playoff finals being the national championship bowl game. Get rid of the stupid BCS National Championship Game and go back to alternating the 4 bowls into the NC position like 2 years ago. Thus in a given year, say the Rose Bowl would be the finals and National Championship. The Orange Bowl would have the semifinal losing teams (Kind of like a bronze medal game in a way), and the Sugar and Fiesta Bowl would host the teams that had lost in the first round. The BCS would make more money, the bowls wouldn't be effected, and it would be better for the fans. A win-win situation.

I know we're all preaching to the choir here, but it is so obvious that a playoff format should be in place. You can't tell me the big shots that run College Football couldn't make even MORE money with a playoff format than the current Bowl format. The games last Saturday had some pretty big implications, and they were good games. I loved seeing Pitt beat WVU, even though I don't really care for either team, but I couldn't help but think that this should be the first round of the College Football playoffs. Look at how big the NCAA Basketball Tourney is, I think College Football would be even bigger.

Oh, and the argument that having a playoff system in place would make the regular season games less meaningful has no merritt in my opinion. They are still playing for a chance at the playoffs, and also for home games in the playoffs. 16 teams would be perfect. First round games are home games, the 2nd round and so on would be integrated with the traditional Bowls.

Well, it probably won't happen anytime soon. Too bad.

when you got a point you got a point. we all do know that they will never go to a playoff unless they devise a way to make more money off of it - and then it will have flunked up rules and stuff.lol.

as I said in another forum - I actually like all of the bowl matchups - especially in the smaller bowls (they can be more entertaining many years). Funny enough - I always supported the BCS b/c it added the comp polls and strength of schedule - but to take your point further - as long as there are human polls, huge corporate investments, and well - yeah just all this money being passes around from the NCAA, Conferences, Schools, and stadium venues - there will always remain the BS.

however, no matter what format is used - everything is won and lost on the field. any team who feels like they were snubbed had plenty of chances. I think the BCS ended up right - except for snubbing Missouri - but on the other hand Kansas was true cinderella story. the games will be fun to watch - and as soon as they are over - the Chili Bowl starts. doesn't get much better than that...........

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hey here is a thought for a playoff.

Take top 10.

in 1st round of it have like a play in to where 7 vs. 10 and 8 vs. 9. winners then make 8 teams in true elimination style. I mean hell you could do the same with 12 teams. And I think it would be best if they did with 10 or 12. there would be fewer bitches bout it then if it was just 8. then 9 would be pisses every year. I know 13 would be under mine as well - but mine does include more teams and programs would like 12 over 8.

But what we forget is there is still BS with a playoff because it is humans deciding who goes and who doesn't just like the BCS.

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Another problem with the current system is that teams have well over a month before they play in the championship game. Ohio State will go from November 17th to January 8th. LSU from December 1st. I would think this could have an effect.

Have an eight team playoff seeded one through eight. Finish the regular season the final week of November. First round of playoffs would start first week of December. Round two on the Saturday before Christmas and the Championship rotated amongst the four major bowls to be played January 1st or 2nd. First round losers would still be able to accept a major bowl bid.

Oh, and go back to an eleven game season plus conference championship games. Is it REALLY neccessary for championship caliber teams to play Youngstown State, Middle Tennessee State or North Texas?

Have a committee decide the seedings and participants (like basketball) and use non-conference strength of schedule as on of the factors.

The BCS is a joke! Missouri should have been invited to the Rose Bowl and Arizona State should have gone to the Fiesta. I'm fine with OSU-LSU but Oklahoma and USC certainly have an arguement.

The way it is now, the bowl season is boring. A playoff would keep excitement going through December and the Holidays for sure.

hey John, just for good measure. The info you put about the last time Ohio State and LSU played has much bearing. Look at last year - it was exactly the same. Florida played the last week (SEC Champ.) just as LSU this year - Ohio State had been sitting idle for 2 weeks up until the SEC Championship game.

So remind me - how'd that turn out last year for Ohio State. I think the authorities got called to the scene b/c Ohio State got MURDERED!!!!!!!! this year may be worse - LSU is a wayyyyy better team. LSU played big games all through year, Ohio State very few - and ohio state is a much younger and inexperienced team - thats a big edge for LSU - thats where LSU may indeed throttle the Buckeyes. Not to mention that LSU just has better telent and coaching. I say final score 48-13.

sorry. forgot about all the Ohio folks in here.

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c'mon. USC choked as bad as West Virginia when they lost to 32 point underdog at home (Stanford). by the way - Miss. St. is a much improved team. Croom has worked wonders with that program. And why don't you add Notre Dame to the cup cake list - La. Tech was better than ND. But I can admit - USC playing awfully good as of late.

btw - why are none of us hearing about the Crooks (USC) and them paying everything for Reggie Bush? It was all over the place with this one dude having all this evidence and now nothin. USC some dirty cheatin bastards...........along with that punk Pete Carroll.

USC is just like Notre Dame............... they will always be built up by sports writers and media. I'm suprised writers didn't rank Notre Dame after they won their final 3 games or put em in a BCS game - lord knows all the punks with $$$ sure woulda wanted to since Notre Dame doesn't have to share money with any conference. they get to keep it all. which btw yes I do know that can work for and against you.

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Ok, I can't freakin' wait to hear this explanation. LOL Tell me how you figure Les Miles to be the better coach than Jim Tressel? Tressel won four 1-AA national titles at Youngstown St., then finally got a Division I job and proceeded to win a National Title at Ohio St. You knew that, right? And Les Miles had done what? Yes, I know he came from Oklahoma St. His resume is still about eight miles behind what Tressel has done in his coaching career.

OKC Kinda thought you were somewhat knowledgeable about college football until that comment. The buckeyes are the underdog in this game, but what has that taught us--nothing. The beloved SEC was an underdog last season and we all know what that accounted for. Your comments about the talent level and coaching at OSU are unfounded as well. The buckeyes have a long tradition of turning out SUCCESSFUL NFL players. As for Coach Tressel, he doesn't need me to defend him, his record speaks for itself.

Hawaii should have a shot at it. they are undefeated. everyone says, "well, they didn't play anyone". that's a bunch of crap. who did Ohio St. play? nobody! the Big Ten Sucks! it's amazing how overrated the Big Ten is. in football and hoops. i'll bet the Big Ten doesn't win 1 bowl game.

plus Ohio State lost to Illinois. At Home!!!!

by the way, is Bret Bielma, Mike Tice's twin brother? what a couple of "butcher block jugheads".

Wisconsin is by far the most overrated program in the country, just ahead of Ohio State.

I hear you talking smack. So now you gonna give me 30 points and Ohio State. I will take that and I will put up 500 dollars. Will you put up the Chili Bowl tickets??????? LOL

My point about so much time between games is that you never know which team will show up and how that time between games will affect one or both teams. I remember a few years ago when Miami was supposed to crush Ohio State and it turned out to be a different story.

There was a time, up until the late 60's, when the final polls were announced PRIOR to the bowl games ( I remember one of those years was the great Michigan State team of '65-'66 which was named National Champion and then lost to UCLA in the Rose Bowl).

In a playoff scenario like I proposed, at least teams don't have all that time off. Play the first round the week after the regular season, the next round 2 or 3 weeks later and a Championship Game 10-14 days after that.

Bowls should go back to their original intent...a reward for an outstanding season for the team and its fans. They SHOULD NOT determine the National Champion.

A playoff would be the only fair way to determine the best team, given the differences in leagues and scheduling.

OKC...Tressel's proven himself as a coach. Like they said about Bear Bryant, " he can take his'n and beat your'n and then take your'n and beat his'n". As for Les Miles, I don't know if he's a genious or nuts with some of his game calls (i.e.Auburn game). I look for it to be speed vs power, as well as which team handles themselves the best after the time off.

Who dropped a quarter in your slot brother???

Switch to decaf....I'd like to run into you next season during one of my mid-west trips, and well it is the heart attack season...

I'm a Purdue fan/alum (Motor City Bowl bound vs that football dynasty CMU)...and have little love for the University of Spoiled Children. But ain't no denying their play as of late.

SC got beat by a Stanford team that played well (they beat SC, Arizona and Cal), and had nothing to lose. The Pac-10 is tough, they added a conference game to their schedule, not filler!

La Tech vs Notre Dame.....I'm still picking the Irish.

Check the alumni list and booster membership for SC and you'll understand why their "scandals" fade away.

Just for you, 'tis the season and all......OU vs OSU winner take all!

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Huh? I said nothing in my post about talent level or even who is going to win the game. My entire post was disagreeing with the claim that a guy who has never won a national title (and Les Miles very well may get his national this year) is a better coach than Jim Tressel, who has five national titles encompassing the top two levels of college football.

I will take that bet that you proposed that the Big 10 won't win a single bowl game this season. How much did you have in mind, or were you just making outrageous statements without any intention of living up to your word when someone called you on it?

I think he meant to respond to OKC's comment that you were responding to. He was agreeing with you.

Ohio State- 24 LSU- 17
Georgia- 44 Hawaii- 21
VT- 21 Kansas- 10
OU-24 WVU- 21
USC-35 Illinois-31

I watched Kansas a few times and if not for the fact they didn't show up in the first half and spotted Missouri 21 points, they would be 13-0 and playing for National Title. They would have beat OU.

I would love to see Hawaii get a chance, just like Boise State should have last year. Boise could have beaten Florida on any given day.

When teams underachieve its usually because the conference they play in is stronger than expected not weaker. The Big 10 is not now, and never will be, a weak conference. That label should be saved only for the Big East and ACC.

Instead of preaching, pony up the picks for all of the BCS games. Then come January, he who's picks prove correct can brag all he wants.

Hawaii - 38 Georgia - 27

Kansas - 45 Virginia Tech - 24

USC - 31 Illinois - 28 "closer than the experts think"

Oklahoma - 52 West Virginia - 35

Ohio State - 37 LSU - 20

I'll also go out on a limb and say the Big 10 will be undefeated in Orlando...Michigan will beat Florida in their own backyard, and Michigan State will beat Boston College.

Thanks Rogue. My apologies singlefile, my comments were directed at OKC.