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January 03, 2022 at
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Do we need 950HP engines if drivers can not use it. I think it was Larson who said I have never run a race at full throttle. The drivers are trying to take HP out of engines by retarding engine timing, change injecters, put smaller intake stacks in and things in MSD box. People are spending 60-70 thousand on engines they must detune come feature time. Wy not `1.6 rockers instead of 1.7 or 2 1/2 max intake stacks instead of 3 in. Very easy to check. Weekend racers can not aford these engines. If they buy one they are nuts. Rebuilds are 10=15 thousand. WOO would not want any rule that made weekend racers more competative.
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January 04, 2022 at
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And I think it was the infamous Karl K. who said that thing between the engine and fuel tank is just a spacer (aka driver).
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January 04, 2022 at
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It's hard to beat horsepower when time trialing. Most big races are time trial shows , so horsepower is needed to get you up front for race time.
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January 04, 2022 at
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Posted By: linbob on January 03 2022 at 04:54:15 PM
Do we need 950HP engines if drivers can not use it. I think it was Larson who said I have never run a race at full throttle. The drivers are trying to take HP out of engines by retarding engine timing, change injecters, put smaller intake stacks in and things in MSD box. People are spending 60-70 thousand on engines they must detune come feature time. Wy not `1.6 rockers instead of 1.7 or 2 1/2 max intake stacks instead of 3 in. Very easy to check. Weekend racers can not aford these engines. If they buy one they are nuts. Rebuilds are 10=15 thousand. WOO would not want any rule that made weekend racers more competative.
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More crying about the weekend racer that can't afford engines. Yawn
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January 06, 2022 at
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Less than 900 hp needed when the money is on the line. Most teams detune. Expensive 2 laps at the beginning of the night. Just mandate one wing profile and make them run it flat in the beginning of the night. Sooner or later common sense has to kick in. TT and heat races are boring anyway. Wing flat would be more exciting for the fans. What would NASCAR do. Level the playing field. Screw Ford, Toyota, whoever is coming in spending millions.
They don't even know how to spell sprint car
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Posted By: cubicdollars on January 06 2022 at 07:50:59 PM
Less than 900 hp needed when the money is on the line. Most teams detune. Expensive 2 laps at the beginning of the night. Just mandate one wing profile and make them run it flat in the beginning of the night. Sooner or later common sense has to kick in. TT and heat races are boring anyway. Wing flat would be more exciting for the fans. What would NASCAR do. Level the playing field. Screw Ford, Toyota, whoever is coming in spending millions.
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What would NASCAR do??? I'm sure they'd ruin it somehow.
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January 07, 2022 at
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Detune. Well, someone finally gets it. I'll give you another one, wheel speed. That's the difference between an average crew chief /driver combo and the really good ones. As soon as the track starts to get slick I'll put my money on the guy that can take HP out of the motor and the driver that can keep the tires under him.
That's what is wrong with most racing, the guy that time trails well beats half the field, and yes that usually takes HP.
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January 07, 2022 at
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Posted By: TMATT on January 04 2022 at 03:34:52 PM
More crying about the weekend racer that can't afford engines. Yawn
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I can see you really care about racing in the future. I bet you will really like the `12 car fields in the future and an announcer that tells you how great the races are.
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January 07, 2022 at
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Posted By: linbob on January 03 2022 at 04:54:15 PM
Do we need 950HP engines if drivers can not use it. I think it was Larson who said I have never run a race at full throttle. The drivers are trying to take HP out of engines by retarding engine timing, change injecters, put smaller intake stacks in and things in MSD box. People are spending 60-70 thousand on engines they must detune come feature time. Wy not `1.6 rockers instead of 1.7 or 2 1/2 max intake stacks instead of 3 in. Very easy to check. Weekend racers can not aford these engines. If they buy one they are nuts. Rebuilds are 10=15 thousand. WOO would not want any rule that made weekend racers more competative.
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Yep, I agree
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January 08, 2022 at
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Thats one of my favorite quotes of all time
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January 08, 2022 at
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Posted By: HardTopDave on January 08 2022 at 04:15:44 AM
Thats one of my favorite quotes of all time
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Well of course Moses couldn't, because he was way old...
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Posted By: Dryslick Willie on January 08 2022 at 05:15:19 AM
Well of course Moses couldn't, because he was way old...
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My other fav quote is from the drag racing world..
“I didn’t want to tell my momma that I spent 20 years in drag racing, so I told her I was in prison.”
T.C. Lemmons
He was pretty serious, it shows what life was like in a small southern town in the 50-60s
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Posted By: linbob on January 03 2022 at 04:54:15 PM
Do we need 950HP engines if drivers can not use it. I think it was Larson who said I have never run a race at full throttle. The drivers are trying to take HP out of engines by retarding engine timing, change injecters, put smaller intake stacks in and things in MSD box. People are spending 60-70 thousand on engines they must detune come feature time. Wy not `1.6 rockers instead of 1.7 or 2 1/2 max intake stacks instead of 3 in. Very easy to check. Weekend racers can not aford these engines. If they buy one they are nuts. Rebuilds are 10=15 thousand. WOO would not want any rule that made weekend racers more competative.
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Larson means he has never kept the car floored the whole race and I'm gona say he meant an Amain. They are using everything on the straights at the least at most tracks early in the night TT and heats
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January 09, 2022 at
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Yea, but Moses could make the lappers part like the Red Sea! 
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Posted By: TMATT on January 04 2022 at 03:34:52 PM
More crying about the weekend racer that can't afford engines. Yawn
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It's not just the weekend racers. It's also the lower tier WoO racers. Do you think, for example, that Wayne Johnson has the same HP engine as Brad Sweet? Once the weekend racers are gone, it's the beginning of the end. Where does that leave the WoO?
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January 10, 2022 at
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I was always told that there is no replacement for displacement
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January 11, 2022 at
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Posted By: Murphy on January 10 2022 at 07:11:47 AM
It's not just the weekend racers. It's also the lower tier WoO racers. Do you think, for example, that Wayne Johnson has the same HP engine as Brad Sweet? Once the weekend racers are gone, it's the beginning of the end. Where does that leave the WoO?
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You could mandate a HP rule & then it would come down to the man who has the right cam + other smaller factors.
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January 11, 2022 at
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You beat me to it. The peak horsepower is simply a result-------------not a target
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Posted By: linbob on January 03 2022 at 04:54:15 PM
Do we need 950HP engines if drivers can not use it. I think it was Larson who said I have never run a race at full throttle. The drivers are trying to take HP out of engines by retarding engine timing, change injecters, put smaller intake stacks in and things in MSD box. People are spending 60-70 thousand on engines they must detune come feature time. Wy not `1.6 rockers instead of 1.7 or 2 1/2 max intake stacks instead of 3 in. Very easy to check. Weekend racers can not aford these engines. If they buy one they are nuts. Rebuilds are 10=15 thousand. WOO would not want any rule that made weekend racers more competative.
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All race car drivers are always searching for more HP and that's been going on since the very first race.
why not reduce the wings and sideboards by 10-15% and reduce the max rear tire width by 10%?
you don't need all that extra HP if you can't get it to the ground.
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