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Beebee
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September 21, 2007 at 01:38:36 AM
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Wy would somone by a car and leav the guys number on the car and all of his sponsers on the car and even go as far to run his colors that the ather guy has ben runing for years. We have asked this guy a number of times to not run this car and to change the color or at least take the sponsers off of the car. This is a isue and usac needs to help out by letting the racers now if somone is going to be runing that # for that season at least? This is not over yet.



Grumpy
September 19, 2007 at 02:02:35 PM
Joined: 06/25/2007
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My goodness...9 misspelled words! Spelling & grammar lessons please! The guy probably can't afford a new paint job, and it's a pain in the butt to remove decals.



NNJFI
September 19, 2007 at 04:18:54 PM
Joined: 05/15/2007
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Posted By: venard40 on September 19 2007 at 01:26:00 PM

Wy would somone by a car and leav the guys number on the car and all of his sponsers on the car and even go as far to run his colors that the ather guy has ben runing for years. We have asked this guy a number of times to not run this car and to change the color or at least take the sponsers off of the car. This is a isue and usac needs to help out by letting the racers now if somone is going to be runing that # for that season at least? This is not over yet.



If you didn't want your # or sponsor on the car you should have taken it off before you sold it. I bought a car from Mark Alexander this year and changed the # but left some of the sponsors names on the car. I thought it was being polite to his sponsors??? I have been sponsoring a 360 VRA car this year and his friend used some of the parts I donated and in showing his appreciation put my company name down the side of his car then went out and won the main event. I thought it was kinda cool. What the heck do I care. But I agree he should change the #.



Beebee
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September 21, 2007 at 12:50:27 AM
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Wow, this is a perfect example of the lack of intelligence that runs ramped thought the sport. Not only do we have one here who lacks English and grammar skills but he's referring to another who seems to lack common courtesy. I do find myself drawn to the individual who lacks courtesy. Now yes both of these (gentelmen) are a reflection on the sport. However, the man who seems to lack common courtesy, manners and values I feel is the worser of the two. Now NNJFI, I agree with you to some degree but I think I would like to give you just a little additional information regarding this particular situation.

I know that the previous driver and car owner of the 40 car had some what of a falling out and the car owner just wanted to be done. The driver requested several times that the basic changes be made, even offering to make them himself but the changes were never made and before the driver new it the car and panels were gone. The driver then sought out the new car owner asking him to please at take his sponsors off, his number, and crew members which included his daughter and other family and friends. The new car owner agreed on several occasions but has yet to follow through.

Then the last I myself knew in the pits there was a big humiliating event that transpired. The new 40 car expected his crew member to push him off with a child's big wheel quad. You know, the ones that are no to exceed 55lb's. To say the least, I myself was rolling.

Now the car has the very same paint job (presonalized), sponsor names, pit crew names and #. We also see that it runs like shit and is an embarrassment to the rest of us. Most of all how are fans in the stands going to differentiate between the old #40 and (new) #40-driver and all.

Also, the old driver of the #40 ,who I know is looking for another ride, how is all of this negatively going to reflect on him? Not well I suppose. Seeing as how people always seem to focus in on the bad associations instead of the good.

I after being a spectator to all of the goings on I do think that USAC should set down a set of guide lines in the area of car ownership transfer. Since these (intelegent) men can't seem to make things work for-themselves I feel that a responsible intelligent party should step in. Also since the rest of us may be forced to have some type of business dealing similar in the future, I feel it would be in all of our best interest to have a set of guide lines and ground rules as a foundation. -As it just occurred to me, what about a formal disclosure from seller to buyer. A disclosure acknowledging all incidents, accidents, fix-its etc. as well. What do you think?

P.S

If the new #40 is claiming to have these "sponsors" and he is clamming to represent them and their product, but say they don't want him to. Could he be facing a false representation court case.

Thanks all the saga continues



royaladd
September 21, 2007 at 01:01:49 AM
Joined: 12/28/2005
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Posted By: venard40 on September 19 2007 at 01:26:00 PM

Wy would somone by a car and leav the guys number on the car and all of his sponsers on the car and even go as far to run his colors that the ather guy has ben runing for years. We have asked this guy a number of times to not run this car and to change the color or at least take the sponsers off of the car. This is a isue and usac needs to help out by letting the racers now if somone is going to be runing that # for that season at least? This is not over yet.



Steve, I recall you mentioning to me once about this and took that it was when you started racing again. I have no problem changing if you get back racing as this is obviously quite a concern to you,but when Mike sold me the car he was happy that I kept his company and a couple other of the sponsors on the car and the #40 was on it and USAC said it was open to use.

Royal

Royal,

The sponsors were not Mike's to give. They were sponsors that I brought to the team, they all are personal friends of mine. His is only Reliable Vacuum and Air. The rest of it I brought. What about the paint job which was of my own design, pencil to paper. Or should I have patented the design? The crew members, I am enraged that my daughters name remains on your car. Seeing as how your driving is not a complement to her name. As far as the number..., after you have had it I feel that it has bad vibes, and you should just stick with it. I have talked to you repeatedly regarding this, I have even offered to do all the labour of removal myself. You just haven't responded, lallygagging I presume.

 




Offie
September 21, 2007 at 08:01:12 AM
Joined: 11/29/2004
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I think this issue would be better served off line or maybe this is Reality Message Board! Oh, the drama of it all.





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