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RodinCanada
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January 15, 2022 at 11:57:23 PM
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5 drivers from OK in the Chilibowl A main . I know there are more from CA but what is the population difference. How many trucks in Oklahoma host 410 sprints? Just an observation from the north but it seems like there's a lot of drivers from the state that doesn't seem like an open-wheel hotbed.


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Dryslick Willie
January 16, 2022 at 12:33:16 AM
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It was more of a sprint car hotbed a long time ago during the days of the Oklahoma State Fairgrounds Speedway and Tulsa Fairgrounds.    In more recent years it hasn't been a 410 hotbed, but more for 360 cars.   Quite a few good drivers from both the Tulsa and OKC areas.    



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January 17, 2022 at 08:20:31 AM
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This message was edited on January 17, 2022 at 08:25:50 AM by BillV99

410 Track List

The above link is all 410 tracks (wing & wingless) I have (since at least 2015).  I see 6 OK tracks...

 

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January 17, 2022 at 10:00:38 AM
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Posted By: BillV99 on January 17 2022 at 08:20:31 AM

410 Track List

The above link is all 410 tracks (wing & wingless) I have (since at least 2015).  I see 6 OK tracks...

 

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Not on that list because it is probably too small for 410s in Port City Raceway.

This track is now owned by Shane Stewart in partnership with Kevin Rudeen.  It is the hotbed for micro sprint racing.  Drivers who have learned on that track include Christopher Bell and Brady Bacon.

I suspect this track is where the Chili Bowl entries from Oklahoma have gained their experience.



BillV99
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January 17, 2022 at 01:02:39 PM
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Here are other tracks I have that maybe have run a 360 or midget race...

  • Arrowhead,OK
  • Creek County,OK
  • I-44 Riverside,OK
  • Longdale,OK
  • Outlaw,OK
  • Port City,OK
  • Thunderbird,OK
  • Tri-State,OK
  • Tulsa Expo,OK
  • Tulsa,OK

 

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Dryslick Willie
January 17, 2022 at 02:09:37 PM
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410 Track List

The above link is all 410 tracks (wing & wingless) I have (since at least 2015).  I see 6 OK tracks...

 

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Correct me if I'm wrong Bill, but I don't think any of these tracks are running 410s or 360s on a weekly basis?   I know they host the occasional ASCS race or WoO.   



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January 17, 2022 at 02:34:21 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong Bill, but I don't think any of these tracks are running 410s or 360s on a weekly basis?   I know they host the occasional ASCS race or WoO.   



None have run 410s weekly, that was just a list that has hosted a 410 race (since 2015)



sprintcarkelly
January 18, 2022 at 01:47:13 AM
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California has a great cart scene for young kids as young as like 6 years old and then those cart kids get into a 360 and have weekly races pretty much every Saturday from the end of February to November. Does Oklahoma have something similar?

 

 


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texdel
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This message was edited on January 19, 2022 at 08:25:15 AM by texdel

A little off topic, but relevant to the conversation…

Oklahoma has a storied and rich history in open wheel dirt track racing.

The 1970’s and 1980’s were in my opinion the best era for the state. The formation of the NCRA brought all the tri-state area (TX, OK, KS) tracks under a single sanction for the unique 100-inch dirt track Super Modifieds. Nance Speed Equipment of Wichita, KS became the leader in chassis manufacturing for the area after Sammy Swindell took the family business to prominence with WoO titles in 1981 and 1982. Herb Copeland won the NCRA title in 1981 for Nance as well. In the early days the Supers ran a 305 engine with a carburetor. Then in 1981 the series moved to 360 ci engines with fuel injection and top wings. The WoO became the series to run, and over the years the likes of Shane Carson, Andy Hillenburg, Tommie Estes Jr., Greg Wooley, Shane Stewart, Daryn Pittman and others took their talents nationwide. An owner who loved dirt track racing was Lloyd K. Stephens from Tulsa, and owner of the beautiful orange and black Ofixco WoO and Silver Crown cars for Ron Shuman and others. Of course recent success of this era includes the rise to NASCAR fame with Christopher Bell.

Some of the well-known drivers of the 100-inch era were Shane Carson, Herb Copeland, Jerry Stone, Bob Ewell, Tommie Estes Jr. Greg Wooley, Ray Crawford, Jon Johnson, Mike Peters, Randy Willingham, Bob Cody, Lyndon Moss, David Brown, Eugene Hair, and many more. Tracks with weekly and/or NCRA shows included Amarillo, TX, Wichita Falls, TX, Lawton, OK, OKC, Tulsa, OK, Enid, OK, Wichita, KS, and Hutchinson, KS. Hutchinson, KS and the big big half-mile was the Nationals of 100-inch racing and was a huge deal.

Then in the 1980’s Larry Hill created the NCRA/USAC Challenge at the beautiful State Fair Speedway at the OKC Fairgrounds. The cars were close enough in dimensions, weight and power that it was the ideal challenge race. In the 4 year period it split down the middle with Copeland in the Nance 1n claiming the first race for NCRA, Rickey Hood claiming the next two for USAC in 1984 and 1985, and then Shane Carson bringing the title back to the NCRA in a very popular win in 1986.

Over time, the state hosted USAC, CRA, SCRA, WoO, ASCoC, NCRA, ASCS, AMA short track racing at venues like Lawton, Oklahoma City, and Tulsa. Of course the state hosts the famous Chili Bowl.

Today, the state has the OCRS 305 RaceSaver Series which is very popular. Of course the ASCS Sooner region hosts 360 sprint races around the state and Lawton is a weekly RaceSaver track. It’s not what it used to be, but Oklahoma is still a great racing state and breeds top-notch drivers through its micro-sprint racing notably at I-44 and Port City race tracks.

The WoO returned a few years ago and now run at Lawton annually. The All Stars ran some races in the state during the pandemic with great success.

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