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Ya know I thought Max Albright (Farley's team mate back then) drove the #750 car , I remember Albright and Farley would come to Lawton and both lived in Chickasha., both had similar painted cars and were very pretty and sponsored by J & J Honda which I thought Farley owned that business?, I thought Farley drove a #77 car back then? .

David , yey whatever happened to those pics of Save Auto Parts , I have got some of those programs from the late 70's and 80's with those pics in the programs.

Sure would be a good deal to get together this winter and I sure am glad to have started this thread , learned things I did not know and it has been alot of good reading.

As long as we don't end up fighting a bunch of bikers, I'm in.

JD, Max generally drove the #91 was yellow with red & black trim for a long time, when Joe came out with that #750 it was almost like chrome allusion paint is know it was multi shades of blue,lavender,silver & white, it was good looking. If you go to lawton this weekend go by Sellers car Joe should be there if he's feeling well and get the scoop for us. I believe Chet built some motors for Joe and maybe Richardson might have also.

If I remember right Bobby Wainscott who ran #131 for a while might have ran #77 later with the same body style like Cox had.

Remember Steve Scott's dad Gene ran #14 with that same body style, you know if my memory serves me right I think this car had a square tube roll cage, never paid attention to Wainscotts or Cox's cars they may have been square tube cages also.

Just hung up with Shorty and he said that he thought the same guy built the all of those cars as the #10/#11 that he and Scott had was square tube also and Les Lusk finished it up for Scott.

Like Brian said this is what gave these car charactor, you pretty well built your own.

I remember the 750 car and it was pretty, guess I got Max and Joe mixed up in the car, I am going to Lawton and run my Sprinter this weekend with Lil Joe , I will try to go by and see Joe Farley and ask him about this Friday or Saturday if he is there.

Brian, Guess we could all bring a tire iron you use to have to carry to break down those US Mags, Those wheels were better than the beadlocks of today from my experience.

Yeah Max always drove the yellow cars. Farleys first car was a green # 750, it was built with the round rear, just like the Wayne Cox/Wainscott cars. Right before he got the Walker car he tumbled this thing HARD down the front straight, landed right under the flagstand.

I think about 79' or 80' Joe made a "comeback" he had one of the new style Walker cars, actually it might have been Bobby's car. It was red & he ran it as # 2.

Yeah a lot of the old Lawton cars seem to look alike & I bet they were built by the same person.

Later!

I was thinking Wainscott drove the same car Cox had before. Cox drove 2 cars in 67-69 I know, and the story goes Wainscott's Dad got the squaretop and M. E. Gregory(#6,red, Edmunds top,coupe style tail) put AJ Little in his for a while.

Neat tidbit on the #6 with AJ Little- Apparently the falling out between Cox and leep hadn't been forgotten. Gregory went back up to OkC with Little and they got a sweep against Leep and Hahn. Hahn's team protested and then there was a counterprotest. Ended up Hahn's engine was just slightly larger the Littles. The win stood.

In '87 or '88 Doll Lavoll(?) came out of Amarillo with a square tube cage. Back then to me, it looked like a squaretube Parson. I do remember Lanny Had frames for sale out in front of the admission gate.

JD- I don't mind beadlocks on the inside since when you pull the tire there is less chance of tearing it up(or the tube for that matter). Sometimes with these old cars , tires are hard to find and yet different combinations are always coming up. Inside beadlocks might be a thing to consider if there ever is a nostalgia series sometime.

That photo of Grady was in the 72 NCRA Yearbook. I will scan it this weekend and post it. I'm thinking Roger Thompson was in the 04 Schippert and ran up front also.

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Thanks, it was a cool pic.

Talked to little Joe last night, JD your right Max drove the #752 which was Joe's #750 Walker car then Joe had a second Walker car built and it was #750 it had cross springs frt and rear I can vaguely remember this car it was painted more blue with red strips.

Jim your giving your age up, I barely remember that green metallic #750 I could not have been very old, what year are you talking about?

JD make sure you go by and see Joe he said he would be at Sellers car.He also said he would come if we could all get together.

I will get by and see Joe this weekend , guess it is off to Lawton and see what happens , just hope we have some good luck.

Yeah David I guess I'm gettin up there a little bit. I remember when we used to talk about the "old timers" out at the track, hell now I AM one of the old timers!! It's still all fun though, age is just a number, I feel great & always up for a race. Actually I just turned 51 this August, when this stuff was goin on in 71' I was a 14 year old kid. Once in a while we could get in the pits, but they still had the 16 year old rule then & most of the time they wanted to see a drivers license.

The next year 72' when I started working for Aaron pit passes were no problem.

I think Joe may have run the green car a few times in 1970, but the year he dumped it on the front straight, then a couple weeks later got the Walker car, that was 1971'.

The other night on tv I saw a deal for the state legislator or senate, something like that & it was Wallace Collins from Norman. I looked & sure enough it was the same Wallace Collins that used to drive super # 40. Yellow car, used to race every week. Thought that was kinda neat, Wallace is in politics now.

Gotta work late today & in the morning, if I can get out at a decent time tommorrow, I'll try to make Lawton. Gosh, I haven't been to a race there in 3 or 4 years. Got some good Lawton road trip stories I'll tell someday. Crazy stuff on that road.

Good luck everybody & be careful.

My Uncle still has a pair of his 6 banger headers. Wallace Collins did a great job.

Bobby Wainscott's narrowbody car was in fact the old Singing 5 built by James Shaw and Walter Barrett, Jim Hysaw was mechanic on this car which was built in 1968. The driver was JL Nash which also ran in 1969. Bobby bought the Singing 5 just before the end of the 1969 season. The Wayne Cox car discussed was built by Hank Malone. The car was T-boned during play day beforwe the start of the 1970 season. The car never handled good and even Shady McQuarter drove it once in OKC and did win a feature in Lawton. W.A. Gregory was mechanic. Wayne retired from racing midway thru the 1970 season. AJ Little finished the season in the car. In 1971Gregory rebuilt the entire car using the same body and Little won the 1971 title here in Lawton he also drove the car in 1972. In 1973 Little bought the car from Gregory and ran it as #10.

Thank you for the clarification! I knew Jim Hysaw for only a few years, but I REALLY WISHED I KNEW THIS!! I had no idea.

The Hank Malone car-The saga of this car is apparently not over. Yes, I know the rumor of what happened to it. But there is a decent chance this car still exists. The body does, and I'm sure you know who has it. Just found that out tonite. Cannot say more, in hopes of getting the right people together so that this car can be out there in the sun once more. It is a relevant car when it comes to history in this thing of ours. It is a quiet legend from the Lawton area, a proven winner for it's time.

When it was the no. 6, and AJ Little was driving, they showed up at OkC one Friday and had a clean sweep against the best of that decade. No charity here since the competition was Leep, Hahn, Taylor etc. Sorry about mistating the Gregory name, I am not good with names.

Sad part is, I had a chance to get this car for a few hundred dollars 20 years ago! If I EVER get to go back in time aboard a time warp machine, I'm going to have a sitdown talk with myself about stocks, love(I'd still end up single, but a heads up wouldn't hurt) and "all those old obsolete race cars laying in the back of peoples yards"!

Just Thinkin......

I remember in 1967, Evard Humphrey was driving ol Sonic Blue, Wayne Cox was driving the 161, anytime those two came onto the track the fans were very vocal. There was yelling & screaming, booing & applause. There were just great rivalries. I bet I've seen Leep drive hundreds of races. I Can't ever remember these old guys spinning sideways in the middle of the front straight, tossing their belts off, waving their arms around & throwing a FIT!

Race drivers used to be way too cool for that & they were excellent role models. Some of the guys used to enjoy their favorite "beverage" after the races, but they Knew the kids would come down for autographs, so they would always wrap their drink in a shop towel so the kids couldn't see it.

I've seen drivers lose a close race or break down 2 laps from the end, sit in the car for a minute & always say " We'll get em next week"! Can't say I've ever seen a Jennings throw a fit at the track for any reason. Class Act!

Just a reminder to the young guys, kids are always watchin & you ARE role models. My heros from 30 years ago are still my heros, taught us some good lessons.

more later

Remember back in april 1967 when the super's went to council rd dragway in Okla. City to see just how fast they could go?? I believe dale case came out the winner on that one, Also when john devinney's race car was broadsided by a Enid Fire Dept truck at the corner of the old wagon wheel resturant in Enid on his way to the track? Ruined his night that night.

Speaking of Enid, I've been meaning to inquire about an old luxury hotel. I think the name was The Brahma Bull Inn? Do they take reservations?

If it was the one 2 block's south of the racetrack on the east side L shaped, dad wouldn't let me look that way because of the pretty???woman hanging out the doorway's.

Just finished our "homework" final adjustments for tommorrow night. (Everyone remember to re-jet; the air will be cleaner & cooler this week-end). We got to talking about some old Enid Speedway stuff.

David Brotherton drove # 8, this was 74' or 75'. He got into a little skirmish during the A feature, the red came out & he pulled into the work area. Both radius rods were knocked off the right front & we had limited time. SO, we wrapped a short chain around the axle, chained it to the frame, looped the chain ends with bailing wire, wrapped it all up real tidy with duct tape & sent him off to race! Came off the back and finished 7th or 8th. David almost fainted after the race when he saw it!

Always enjoyed running Enid, it was a little sandy & abrasive but you just work around it. In 71' when Reynolds drove the #33 we won 3 features up there that year.

Was there when Roger Thompson Dumped hard (awesome picture of that in racin from the Past). Also remember when George Armstrong set an altitude record there in the blue # 8 out of Tulsa.

In 92' & 93' when Curley Hill & Martin Bond had the track I was hired as track director there for 2 years, & that was a lot of fun. Just a different atmosphere there it wasn't so hard core & was a fun Sat. night program.

In 92' I talked them into running the 100" OKC wingless modifieds there for a "special" show. They agreed to pay the purse if I could get at least 15 cars. We got 17 cars & it was a great race, EXCEPT, Stan Constant in the red # 17 was so fast he made it no race. I went to Stan before the A & asked if for an extra $100 would he start at the back? Typical Stan answered " Why the hell would I wanna do that?) I said PLEASE so it will at least look like a race, & Stan did it & kicked their butts anyway. Good times.

More on 1971. In September 71' the IMCA sprint car point standins were:

Jerry Blundy: 2580

Dick Sutcliffe: 1835

Eddie Leavitt: 1300

Ron Larson: 1300

Chuck Amati: 1150

Bob Kinser: 1065

Our own Jay Woodside was 11th with 840 points. Busy guy, he was also tied for 18th in NCRA points. In OKC George Armstrong was super rookie of the the year & Steve Morgan was modified rookie of the year.

Also 71' Jackie Howerton ran 9 USAC sprint car races & finised 29th in national points & 33rd in car owner points. Took an amazing ride, end over end at Terre Haute in Grant Kings # 27. Have some awesome pictures of that! Oh yeah Jim McElreath finished 28th in USAC sprints & Billy Thrasher from Fort Worth finished 25th.

More later, Jim

Way cool stuff there Jim.

Mom and Dad had to get a room there since the Holiday Inn reservation fell through. Also their friends Jearl and Louise Meeks got a room next door for safety reasons. Each had luxuries but niether had them all-

Dad's dresser had a mirror, Jearl's dresser had drawers.

Jearl had a bigger TV, Dad's actually had signs of life in that it at least had a little white dot in the middle when you turned it on.

Both rooms did have one thing in common, the floors were covered with carpet samples.

You know every town has or had one of these places, even mine at one time. It's just funny that when a man tells his wife they are going to treat the Winternationals trip like a second honeymoon, and they end up staying at an informal brothel. Little hard to get the missus to go back the next year.