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egras
February 14, 2023 at 08:10:45 AM
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Posted By: HardTopDave on February 14 2023 at 06:30:38 AM

I'm a long time fan of the WoO as my many posts here show, but I'm getting sick of their BS, fuck them



Ah yes----their BS.  Paying top dollar.  Giving top sprint car teams the best possible scenario at succeding financially touring the country in a sprint car.  Filling stands at every venue.  Total BS.  



beezr2002
February 14, 2023 at 08:53:43 AM
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Posted By: HardTopDave on February 14 2023 at 06:30:38 AM

I'm a long time fan of the WoO as my many posts here show, but I'm getting sick of their BS, fuck them



Yeah! Now there's the HTD we all know and love. Keep it real.



HardTopDave
February 14, 2023 at 03:57:07 PM
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Posted By: egras on February 14 2023 at 08:10:45 AM

Ah yes----their BS.  Paying top dollar.  Giving top sprint car teams the best possible scenario at succeding financially touring the country in a sprint car.  Filling stands at every venue.  Total BS.  



They should call it the World of Anything BUT Outlaws.  Look up the definition of the word 'outlaw'.   Those spineless  toadies should be sued for false advertising




Murphy
February 14, 2023 at 10:01:31 PM
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Posted By: HardTopDave on February 14 2023 at 03:57:07 PM

They should call it the World of Anything BUT Outlaws.  Look up the definition of the word 'outlaw'.   Those spineless  toadies should be sued for false advertising



From Dictionary.com- Outlaw: a lawless person or habitual criminal. You're right. It doesn't mention sprint cars at all. If the should call it anything BUT Outlaws, perhaps they could call it World of crabby old guys on a racing message board. 



HardTopDave
February 15, 2023 at 07:22:23 AM
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I just love this thread LOL



egras
February 15, 2023 at 07:32:38 AM
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Posted By: HardTopDave on February 14 2023 at 03:57:07 PM

They should call it the World of Anything BUT Outlaws.  Look up the definition of the word 'outlaw'.   Those spineless  toadies should be sued for false advertising



If my memory serves me correctly, the original "outlaws" of sprint car racing traveled the country, ran big races, for big purses, against 'local' talent, at tracks they didn't run on a weekly basis----and attempted to take home the purse. 

 

Please explain to me how this tradition has not continued?   




egras
February 15, 2023 at 07:32:43 AM
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Posted By: HardTopDave on February 14 2023 at 03:57:07 PM

They should call it the World of Anything BUT Outlaws.  Look up the definition of the word 'outlaw'.   Those spineless  toadies should be sued for false advertising



If my memory serves me correctly, the original "outlaws" of sprint car racing traveled the country, ran big races, for big purses, against 'local' talent, at tracks they didn't run on a weekly basis----and attempted to take home the purse. 

 

Please explain to me how this tradition has not continued?   



beezr2002
February 15, 2023 at 08:21:52 AM
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you can say that again.



BStrawser26
February 15, 2023 at 08:32:16 AM
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Posted By: egras on February 15 2023 at 07:32:43 AM

If my memory serves me correctly, the original "outlaws" of sprint car racing traveled the country, ran big races, for big purses, against 'local' talent, at tracks they didn't run on a weekly basis----and attempted to take home the purse. 

 

Please explain to me how this tradition has not continued?   



You are 100% correct.  What has happened to the WRG?


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

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Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!


egras
February 15, 2023 at 11:06:48 AM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on February 15 2023 at 08:32:16 AM

You are 100% correct.  What has happened to the WRG?



Nothing-----------this is exactly what the WRG does...............year in, year out.  



Parnelli98
February 15, 2023 at 11:52:05 AM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on February 15 2023 at 08:32:16 AM

You are 100% correct.  What has happened to the WRG?



Grown the brand and given the drivers more money.



BStrawser26
February 15, 2023 at 03:05:20 PM
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This message was edited on February 15, 2023 at 03:06:38 PM by BStrawser26
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Posted By: Parnelli98 on February 15 2023 at 11:52:05 AM

Grown the brand and given the drivers more money.



By not allowing them to race in the middle of the week if they want and when they want for BIG money.  That is moronic!


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!


egras
February 15, 2023 at 04:13:21 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on February 15 2023 at 03:05:20 PM

By not allowing them to race in the middle of the week if they want and when they want for BIG money.  That is moronic!



I believe every driver in the country has the right to race every single WoO race and race every other day of the year if they wish.....................don't they?  



RodinCanada
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February 15, 2023 at 04:17:41 PM
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Posted By: egras on February 15 2023 at 07:32:43 AM

If my memory serves me correctly, the original "outlaws" of sprint car racing traveled the country, ran big races, for big purses, against 'local' talent, at tracks they didn't run on a weekly basis----and attempted to take home the purse. 

 

Please explain to me how this tradition has not continued?   



Well the outlaws now organize those large purses, and shape the format to give a slight advantage to the drivers they hire to attend. Maybe still a lot of local money leaving with the outlaws, I guess that might not have changed. 


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Parnelli98
February 15, 2023 at 04:36:11 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on February 15 2023 at 03:05:20 PM

By not allowing them to race in the middle of the week if they want and when they want for BIG money.  That is moronic!



Who said they couldn't? They didn't have to sign but they did didn't they? Are you calling the drivers moronic for signing?




egras
February 15, 2023 at 04:56:47 PM
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This message was edited on February 15, 2023 at 04:58:41 PM by egras
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Posted By: RodinCanada on February 15 2023 at 04:17:41 PM

Well the outlaws now organize those large purses, and shape the format to give a slight advantage to the drivers they hire to attend. Maybe still a lot of local money leaving with the outlaws, I guess that might not have changed. 



Without organization of these events and large purses, there is no way to make travelling the country profitable for these teams.  I know, I know---Kyle Larson and Brent Marks.  Bad news everyone-----Kyle Larson's 2020 and Brent Marks' 2022 season were anomalies.  Without organization, tow money and points money, most of these organizations would operate in the red----even with the big name on the hauler.  What about the drivers that weren't Brent Marks in 2022?   

 

Good news though----if anyone wants to try it, no one is holding a gun to their heads and forcing them to sign the exclusive deal---load the car up and hit the big money shows!!  They can run like a true Outlaw since some seem obsessed with that.   Also, advantage to the drivers they hire to attend?  Do they get to choose their qualifying spot or draw a pill like everyone else?  I'm confused on the advantage part.  The only advantage in the Outlaw format is to be fast when you unload the car---which should be the point at every race around the world.   



longtimefan
February 15, 2023 at 05:38:22 PM
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You think there is any chance that any of the platinum drivers will sign this year considering how badly they are treated?



BStrawser26
February 15, 2023 at 05:56:09 PM
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Posted By: Parnelli98 on February 15 2023 at 04:36:11 PM

Who said they couldn't? They didn't have to sign but they did didn't they? Are you calling the drivers moronic for signing?



Will they be penalized....yes. So your argument doesn't hold up.  


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!


Parnelli98
February 15, 2023 at 06:12:02 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on February 15 2023 at 05:56:09 PM

Will they be penalized....yes. So your argument doesn't hold up.  



What's the "penalty"?$



Parnelli98
February 15, 2023 at 06:28:32 PM
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It's an incentive contract that they do not have to sign they can run all the races they want minus the INCENTIVES no penalty.





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