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dirtdevil
September 01, 2012 at 12:41:51 AM
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Posted By: cubicdollars on August 31 2012 at 05:58:31 PM
It doesn't matter what I say. People are sharp enough to know that the minute xXx isn't cheaper they disappear. It's the only reason all you jackasses on here run them. The only reason you defend xXx is to make yourselves feel better.


I run a Schnee, I defend them because, the minute someone destroys a front axle in thier car they can still afford to purchase another one and keep racing for your patriotic ass to belittle , isnt cheap entertainment grand! , seems you like cheap things too!

you are right about one thing, it doesnt matter what you say!! , coming from a ignorant prick such as yourself, who does, really give a sh^t? ,thanks for pointing that out! , smartest thing youve said thus far! , Hey, riffle back another doughnut, make sure your fanny doesnt get soar on that pad you sit on, and keep up the great work .



cubicdollars
September 01, 2012 at 07:06:37 AM
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Posted By: dirtdevil on September 01 2012 at 12:41:51 AM

I run a Schnee, I defend them because, the minute someone destroys a front axle in thier car they can still afford to purchase another one and keep racing for your patriotic ass to belittle , isnt cheap entertainment grand! , seems you like cheap things too!

you are right about one thing, it doesnt matter what you say!! , coming from a ignorant prick such as yourself, who does, really give a sh^t? ,thanks for pointing that out! , smartest thing youve said thus far! , Hey, riffle back another doughnut, make sure your fanny doesnt get soar on that pad you sit on, and keep up the great work .



And you're an unpatriotic jack@ss so I guess we're even.

Late models cost twice as much and there are twice as many of them, and yet no one is a big enough lowlife to outsource their fabrication to China.

You also claim chinese manufacturing is competitive with the US, yet china-made engine parts blow up right away. The red brigade is far from US standards. The 5ft chinese woman who is welding up your xXx "spint" frame is never going to care as much as an American.

The xXx faithful are simple opportunists. Which is fine if they would just admit it instead of suscepting the rest of us to a continual line of bullcrap.


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com


dirtdevil
September 01, 2012 at 08:17:32 AM
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Posted By: cubicdollars on August 31 2012 at 05:58:31 PM
It doesn't matter what I say. People are sharp enough to know that the minute xXx isn't cheaper they disappear. It's the only reason all you jackasses on here run them. The only reason you defend xXx is to make yourselves feel better.


You apparently have a foggy image of who it is your talking to?, and just where are your opinions and slander directed too? I said, I run a Schnee, maybe if I start typing in bold and you read my coments you'll keep them fresh in your peanut memory next time you post(ahhh, and we all know you will!) I RUN A SCHNEE got it? or do I need to retype again? I happen to own three of them , yes I bolt on items from XXX and they perform flawlessly and at 2/3 the price of competitors,I also use Frankland rearends, is that ok with you? ( ironically I switched from Winters)I liked Franklands product better and choose to spend my saved $$ to step up in a different area worthy of my prefferance ,my shoes are made by Simpson, is that ok? my suit is a Awesome , you do realize thats from Canada? is that ok with you? Now your on latemodels? OE good one, that should hold a bunch of wieght on here, did you forget what message board your in? NOTE, take a real close look at where some of the parts on your (close friends) latemodel come from, take your goggles off Cubic, start explaining Winters and Simpson products negative impact on the racing world, I mean they must be new corporations right?, Ive never heard of them?, Keep beating your drum Cubic, (I guess other than me), nobody is listening




bigallardfan
September 01, 2012 at 11:35:13 AM
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Posted By: cubicdollars on August 31 2012 at 05:58:31 PM
It doesn't matter what I say. People are sharp enough to know that the minute xXx isn't cheaper they disappear. It's the only reason all you jackasses on here run them. The only reason you defend xXx is to make yourselves feel better.


Finally the truth. When all the lies are uncovered, and Cubic has no more lies to spout ... he finally gets to the root of the issue. He doesn't like China. That's fine dude, I'm sure there are boards for that. Go rant on them. Until then, your lies about XXX performance and safety are easily disproven and you look retarded with your continuous BS.

And .. you never answered a key question from before. What chassis have you raced? We all know that answer to that. Zero. Goose egg. Donut. Just a key board cowboy with an agenda that doesn't even understand the sport except from 30 rows up in the stands.



cubicdollars
September 01, 2012 at 03:18:54 PM
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Posted By: dirtdevil on September 01 2012 at 08:17:32 AM

You apparently have a foggy image of who it is your talking to?, and just where are your opinions and slander directed too? I said, I run a Schnee, maybe if I start typing in bold and you read my coments you'll keep them fresh in your peanut memory next time you post(ahhh, and we all know you will!) I RUN A SCHNEE got it? or do I need to retype again? I happen to own three of them , yes I bolt on items from XXX and they perform flawlessly and at 2/3 the price of competitors,I also use Frankland rearends, is that ok with you? ( ironically I switched from Winters)I liked Franklands product better and choose to spend my saved $$ to step up in a different area worthy of my prefferance ,my shoes are made by Simpson, is that ok? my suit is a Awesome , you do realize thats from Canada? is that ok with you? Now your on latemodels? OE good one, that should hold a bunch of wieght on here, did you forget what message board your in? NOTE, take a real close look at where some of the parts on your (close friends) latemodel come from, take your goggles off Cubic, start explaining Winters and Simpson products negative impact on the racing world, I mean they must be new corporations right?, Ive never heard of them?, Keep beating your drum Cubic, (I guess other than me), nobody is listening



Congratulations for being in the small minority of Americans who admire communist China. Have a good Labor Day weekend.

 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com


dirtdevil
September 02, 2012 at 02:59:08 AM
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Posted By: cubicdollars on September 01 2012 at 03:18:54 PM
Congratulations for being in the small minority of Americans who admire communist China. Have a good Labor Day weekend.


thankyou , and why yes, I will enjoy my Union labor day off, Ill be thinking of my Grandfather, and how he would love to see this racecar if he was alive today, soo much more power and more interesting than the Jeeps he worked on In the service, even through Vietnam! , dam would he love this thing! , he loved my fathers 396 the first time they fired it up in 1978, OE! and my uncle,(his son) which his service assignment with the U.S air force , He utilezed switches on his plane that were manufactured in China!, oe sorry did I say that? huh, guess that was just a oopsie? Ill enjoy my double header weekend , I hope you enjoy tours tuned into your china tv too.. Keep it real cubic, your on your way to digging even a bigger hole to try get out of , hey, but who cares anyway right?




cubicdollars
September 02, 2012 at 10:58:43 AM
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This message was edited on September 05, 2012 at 07:13:59 PM by cubicdollars

I'm a veteran myself and I don't like it. Neither do the 90% of Americans who are concerned about outsourcing. Congratulations, that puts you in the 10% club of douchebags.

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/public-opinion/news/2012/07/02/11907/public-opinion-snapshot-americans-are-concerned-about-outsourcing/

 


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com


dirtdevil
September 03, 2012 at 02:35:28 PM
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Posted By: cubicdollars on September 02 2012 at 10:58:43 AM

I'm a veteran myself and I don't like it. Neither do the 90% of Americans who are concerned about outsourcing. Congratulations, that puts you in the 10% club of douchebags.

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/public-opinion/news/2012/07/02/11907/public-opinion-snapshot-americans-are-concerned-about-outsourcing/

 



10%? huh, so that makes me kinda uniqe, I like that, thanks ! funney how your cronies are willing to talk about it but, thier not able to roll up thier sleaves and pursue a snowballed market they cant do dittly sh^t about now , im sorry, but honesty is the best quality to have, ralley up all your friends and purchase your "american made" items at top dollar (thats fine its your money) and tell me how exhausted they will be when they find out nthing they purchased was 100% manufactured in America , hey dont get me wrong, I love America, I love my freedom too, By starting at lil old me at the bottom of the pyramid to start making a change in this country is simply ass9, how about the goverment quits punching holes into overseas negotiations for BILLIONS , and ill start thinking about my dollar in my pocket, dont you think that would be a good start? Its too late the global economy has taken over, when I purchase a american flag that says made in china was that my fault? , I was born in 1975, its a pitty I know, accept the music , its too late to do anything about it now, ya know, there is good hearted Americans that make a living selling chinese crap too, whats wrong with that ? BTW I guess douchbags are from Netherlands then?



LLLosingit
September 03, 2012 at 05:04:56 PM
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Posted By: cubicdollars on August 29 2012 at 07:51:04 PM
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Cubic, Your house/driveway must be pretty damn empty if you're only using
"American Made" products. You'd be lucky to get by more than a couple hours
without having to use something that was imported. Like it or not there is very
little made in America these days and it's not likely to change in the near
future considering we've been importing more and more since this country was
first started. I seriously doubt there is a single sprint car anywhere in the
country that doesn't have at least a few foreign made parts on it. Even if it
says "Made in America" doesn't mean it's parts were all made here.




fast_crew
September 03, 2012 at 08:15:52 PM
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Back to the OP's problem. Have you checked the torque tube, and driveshaft for straightness. Centered and squared the rearend? Rear is centered when square? (this is a sign of the front face being out of align on the rearend.) W-link is set properly to be free when the torque ball is at it's freeiest point while rolling car back and forth. Just a few ideas.



Pimpmobile38
September 03, 2012 at 10:35:37 PM
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Posted By: fast_crew on September 03 2012 at 08:15:52 PM

Back to the OP's problem. Have you checked the torque tube, and driveshaft for straightness. Centered and squared the rearend? Rear is centered when square? (this is a sign of the front face being out of align on the rearend.) W-link is set properly to be free when the torque ball is at it's freeiest point while rolling car back and forth. Just a few ideas.



We've tried brand new driveline (rearend, tube, ball, shaft, everything), checked, double checked, then rechecked for square. Torque ball is free enough to spin with your pinky finger, Watt's link is free. Like I said we just don't have anything else to try except a new chassis (or having this one checked for some sort of defect).



cubicdollars
September 04, 2012 at 03:06:15 PM
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Posted By: Pimpmobile38 on September 03 2012 at 10:35:37 PM

We've tried brand new driveline (rearend, tube, ball, shaft, everything), checked, double checked, then rechecked for square. Torque ball is free enough to spin with your pinky finger, Watt's link is free. Like I said we just don't have anything else to try except a new chassis (or having this one checked for some sort of defect).



Short of getting a new car, the only other real thing to check out is the corner weights and how it takes weight with a set of scales and the ride heights. But you need a good baseline to judge it against. If you run on a slick or little track, killing the motor can also help you a lot.

 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com



88sprint
September 04, 2012 at 03:19:55 PM
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Posted By: cubicdollars on September 04 2012 at 03:06:15 PM
Short of getting a new car, the only other real thing to check out is the corner weights and how it takes weight with a set of scales and the ride heights. But you need a good baseline to judge it against. If you run on a slick or little track, killing the motor can also help you a lot.


What brand of scales are we allowed to use? Most electronics are from "over there", so I don't want to offend you with the ones I use.....

In case you were wondering, that was a rhetorical question. I really don't need to hear any more of your "expert" advise. You seem to only have an issue with XXX, not ALL the manufacturers that use overseas production. There are many in racing, XXX did not cut the trail, they simply followed the others....very successfully I might add.

Thank you Triple X, you are allowing many racers to be just that, racers.



cubicdollars
September 04, 2012 at 07:01:22 PM
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Posted By: 88sprint on September 04 2012 at 03:19:55 PM

What brand of scales are we allowed to use? Most electronics are from "over there", so I don't want to offend you with the ones I use.....

In case you were wondering, that was a rhetorical question. I really don't need to hear any more of your "expert" advise. You seem to only have an issue with XXX, not ALL the manufacturers that use overseas production. There are many in racing, XXX did not cut the trail, they simply followed the others....very successfully I might add.

Thank you Triple X, you are allowing many racers to be just that, racers.



As far as I know TripleX is the only race car chassis built in China. 50,000 drag, stock car and open wheel chassis across the United States and TripleX sprint cars are the only low-lifes greedy enough to do it. Their day is coming.

Sixteen entries are in hand for IMCA’s third annual Manufacturer’s Cup contest

VINTON, Iowa – Sixteen entries are in hand for IMCA’s third annual
Manufacturer’s Cup contest.

Modified builders compete for national and regional awards, based on top 10
standings in each of the five regions.

The builder with the top overall point total will be recognized as the
national Manufacturer of the Year, a title that will be accompanied by a $500
prize and a trophy, along with jackets for all staff members courtesy of
Speedway Motors.

DirtHead will give wall graphics of each car in the regional top 10 to the
respective builders.

New to the Manufacturers’ Cup field are Allen Autosports of Urbana, Mo.;
DirtWorks Race Cars of Walker, Mo., Kazzbuilt Race Cars of Waterloo and Smiley’s
Racing Chassis of Mesquite, Texas.

They join Belleville Motorsports of Bellevillle, Kan.; Billsbuilt Race Cars
of Wichita, Kan.; Destroyer Chassis of Kennedale, Texas; GRT Race Cars of
Greenbrier, Ark.; defending national Manufacturer of the Year Harris Auto Racing
of Boone; Hoffman Race Cars of Oronogo, Mo.; Jet Racing of Beatrice, Neb.; Larry
Shaw Racing of Batesville, Ark.; Medieval Chassis of Mayer, Minn.; Skyrocket
Chassis of Fertile; Sharp Racing Products of Amarillo, Texas; and Victory
Chassis of Boone.

“This program is a great way for Modified chassis builders to get more
exposure,” noted IMCA Marketing Director Kevin Yoder. “Different builders won in
each of the five regions last year and 13 builders had one or more cars finish
in the top 10 in regional points.”

Manufacturer’s Cup awards will be presented during the national IMCA awards
banquet in November.

https://imca.com/sponsors/manufacturers-cup/


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com


dirtdevil
September 04, 2012 at 09:44:33 PM
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Posted By: cubicdollars on September 04 2012 at 07:01:22 PM

As far as I know TripleX is the only race car chassis built in China. 50,000 drag, stock car and open wheel chassis across the United States and TripleX sprint cars are the only low-lifes greedy enough to do it. Their day is coming.

Sixteen entries are in hand for IMCA’s third annual Manufacturer’s Cup contest

VINTON, Iowa – Sixteen entries are in hand for IMCA’s third annual
Manufacturer’s Cup contest.

Modified builders compete for national and regional awards, based on top 10
standings in each of the five regions.

The builder with the top overall point total will be recognized as the
national Manufacturer of the Year, a title that will be accompanied by a $500
prize and a trophy, along with jackets for all staff members courtesy of
Speedway Motors.

DirtHead will give wall graphics of each car in the regional top 10 to the
respective builders.

New to the Manufacturers’ Cup field are Allen Autosports of Urbana, Mo.;
DirtWorks Race Cars of Walker, Mo., Kazzbuilt Race Cars of Waterloo and Smiley’s
Racing Chassis of Mesquite, Texas.

They join Belleville Motorsports of Bellevillle, Kan.; Billsbuilt Race Cars
of Wichita, Kan.; Destroyer Chassis of Kennedale, Texas; GRT Race Cars of
Greenbrier, Ark.; defending national Manufacturer of the Year Harris Auto Racing
of Boone; Hoffman Race Cars of Oronogo, Mo.; Jet Racing of Beatrice, Neb.; Larry
Shaw Racing of Batesville, Ark.; Medieval Chassis of Mayer, Minn.; Skyrocket
Chassis of Fertile; Sharp Racing Products of Amarillo, Texas; and Victory
Chassis of Boone.

“This program is a great way for Modified chassis builders to get more
exposure,” noted IMCA Marketing Director Kevin Yoder. “Different builders won in
each of the five regions last year and 13 builders had one or more cars finish
in the top 10 in regional points.”

Manufacturer’s Cup awards will be presented during the national IMCA awards
banquet in November.

https://imca.com/sponsors/manufacturers-cup/



and over 50% of thier tubing is produced from German mild steal, IMCA cubic! are you serious? , half the items on speedways shelf is China manufactures, ever heard of Cat products?, Eagle cranks rods? , ALL endorsed and sold by Speedway motors, a large IMCA supporter and retailer, I came from IMCA modifieds years ago and Absolutly know where most those products come from , (Nice lil wirefeed torch in your illistration tho) too bad it might be connected to Mosfet tecknology produced by Hitachi, your too funney.




88sprint
September 04, 2012 at 10:24:18 PM
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Posted By: cubicdollars on September 04 2012 at 07:01:22 PM

As far as I know TripleX is the only race car chassis built in China. 50,000 drag, stock car and open wheel chassis across the United States and TripleX sprint cars are the only low-lifes greedy enough to do it. Their day is coming.

Sixteen entries are in hand for IMCA’s third annual Manufacturer’s Cup contest

VINTON, Iowa – Sixteen entries are in hand for IMCA’s third annual
Manufacturer’s Cup contest.

Modified builders compete for national and regional awards, based on top 10
standings in each of the five regions.

The builder with the top overall point total will be recognized as the
national Manufacturer of the Year, a title that will be accompanied by a $500
prize and a trophy, along with jackets for all staff members courtesy of
Speedway Motors.

DirtHead will give wall graphics of each car in the regional top 10 to the
respective builders.

New to the Manufacturers’ Cup field are Allen Autosports of Urbana, Mo.;
DirtWorks Race Cars of Walker, Mo., Kazzbuilt Race Cars of Waterloo and Smiley’s
Racing Chassis of Mesquite, Texas.

They join Belleville Motorsports of Bellevillle, Kan.; Billsbuilt Race Cars
of Wichita, Kan.; Destroyer Chassis of Kennedale, Texas; GRT Race Cars of
Greenbrier, Ark.; defending national Manufacturer of the Year Harris Auto Racing
of Boone; Hoffman Race Cars of Oronogo, Mo.; Jet Racing of Beatrice, Neb.; Larry
Shaw Racing of Batesville, Ark.; Medieval Chassis of Mayer, Minn.; Skyrocket
Chassis of Fertile; Sharp Racing Products of Amarillo, Texas; and Victory
Chassis of Boone.

“This program is a great way for Modified chassis builders to get more
exposure,” noted IMCA Marketing Director Kevin Yoder. “Different builders won in
each of the five regions last year and 13 builders had one or more cars finish
in the top 10 in regional points.”

Manufacturer’s Cup awards will be presented during the national IMCA awards
banquet in November.

https://imca.com/sponsors/manufacturers-cup/



So you didn't read my post? Simpson? Winters? Or are you having to narrow down your parts list to just chassis so they fit your claims better? As far as modifieds go, I am under the impression they use front stubs off of street cars, so why would a chassis company want to send a stub to China, have it welded up to make a complete chassis, then send it back?? Doesn't sound like they would be money ahead to pay shipping 2 ways. Maybe that is the reason they don't do it?? When did anyone mention fender cars anyway?? I thought this was about sprintcars....Triple X doesn't make a modified chassis, so why are you wanting to show off a list of modified chassis companies?? My above statement makes 1 good arguement as to why they aren't built overseas, I am sure there are many more....

5000+ race teams across the country??? I don't get where you are going with that. There are 5000 chassis manufacturers out there? Or 5000 actual race teams? Who are "they" when you say they are the only ones greedy enough? There are a lot more than 1 team running Triple X and I am guessing a lot less than 5000 manufacturers out there(and a lot more than 1 using China made parts)....What is going to happen on "thier day" when it comes???

Why won't you acknowledge the fact Simpson, Winters, etc also manufacture products overseas? Simple question.....Pretty sure you just have it out for Triple X, doesn't sound like it has anything to do with being build overseas as other companies can do it and you are ok with it. You wouldn't happen to work at or own a chassis company here would you? A little upset someone came in and stole some business? Maybe the "greed" is being placed on the wrong shoulders...

You keep saying when shipping costs go up the Triple X prices will go up and people will quit buying them. Shipping must be getting ready to go up a ton, cause Triple X will still be cheaper than the other companies even if they did raised their prices. And we are only opportunists? Aren't you? You haven't ever bought something on sale? I highly doubt you see an product you want that is on sale and say "I have to wait until this goes back to full retail before I can buy it".....



slidejob25
September 05, 2012 at 01:02:20 AM
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ART Chassis is a great option guys get those to operate fairly well.. Shane Stewart is a good example Jon Allard runs them I think.. http://www.artspeedequip.com/


Hammerdown!

HoldenCaulfield
September 05, 2012 at 01:59:16 AM
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Posted By: bigallardfan on August 30 2012 at 05:55:35 PM

As part of their career highlights, these guys list the following:

Fred Rahmer:
4-time Tuscarora Winner – Port Royal Speedway

Greg Hodnett:
Tuscarora 50

Lance Dewease:
1999 Lincoln Speedway "Kenny Weld Memorial" winner
1994, 2001, 2002, and 2006 Port Royal Speedway "Tuscarora 50" winner


Weird that they would list just normal "races" in thier career highlights. For three top notch drivers as accomplished as them in PA, crazy that they have to "sell us snake oil" in their ( "apparently exagerated commie" ) bios.

Or could just be that you are caught in yet more of your never ending BS.



Yeah and none of those drivers has ever driven a communist built sprtint car.


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HoldenCaulfield
September 05, 2012 at 02:04:19 AM
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Posted By: THEGOSHOW on August 31 2012 at 12:28:05 AM

Geez Cubic do you ever even go to the races? Who has the most wins at the Grove this year? You can't eat points the 21 car didn't even run all the Lincoln point races, that was not a goal this year, WINNING is. Motor issues were the only thing that kept them from Eldora twice this year and that will probably change in October for the All Star race. Who are these big dogs in Pa you speak of ?



I remember the 21 team at Lincoln a couple years ago talking in VL about how they had over 200 races on the MAXIM car they just won with. Have they put 200 races on any XXX? What changed? Oh that's right, FREE Maxim knockoffs. How much R&D did the Chinese put into it?


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HoldenCaulfield
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Posted By: crewman38 on August 30 2012 at 06:28:22 PM
If the driver is comfortable in the car, and its fast and winning races, who cares where the chassis is made!!!


Americans who work in manufacturing , chasis manufacturers who have had their hard work and development ripped off and anyone else who feels that working people should make more than 50 cents an hour; that's who. You should really change your avatar to a team that runs Chinese cars; it's a disgrace to the 30c Maxim team.


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