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RodinCanada
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December 22, 2021 at 12:46:30 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on December 22 2021 at 11:37:39 AM

Winged goes to the Port....I will not step foot on Ports grounds period end of discussion until they get rid of razor Steve.  So that throws your theory right out the window.



Could you please keep your word and let the above post be the end of the discussion about Port! Thank you 


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BStrawser26
December 22, 2021 at 02:30:32 PM
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Posted By: RodinCanada on December 22 2021 at 12:46:30 PM

Could you please keep your word and let the above post be the end of the discussion about Port! Thank you 



It is a free country the last time I checked.  I will continue to talk about it when I want and there is nothing you can do about it.


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RodinCanada
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December 22, 2021 at 05:39:19 PM
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Lol. End of discussion, but not end of discussion?

 


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BStrawser26
December 23, 2021 at 06:11:09 AM
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Posted By: RodinCanada on December 22 2021 at 05:39:19 PM

Lol. End of discussion, but not end of discussion?

 



LOL! End of discussion when I say it is the end of discussion.  With every intention of bringing it back up when I want to bring it up and there is nothing you can do about it.  Sorry to dissapoint you.    Canada people forget what it is like to be able to speak freely about any subject.   US isn't far behind.....just saying! 


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Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

willf270
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December 23, 2021 at 10:37:10 AM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on December 22 2021 at 11:37:39 AM

Winged goes to the Port....I will not step foot on Ports grounds period end of discussion until they get rid of razor Steve.  So that throws your theory right out the window.



I agree Port is the best facility and most nights track is good, sometimes great. Second is Lincoln for the track and competition only, facility and lack of varity of schedule keeps it from being better. BUT its easier to create a top notch facility like Port Royal when you get State grants and fair board money to make improvments. Lincoln, Baps and others have to rely on owners getting financing to make improvements.

I also agree we need to stop bashing each track, be glad we have them to go to, remember you could live in Idaho. We stand to lose a very nostaglic track in Trailway. anyone that has spent a night there understands what i mean.



longtimefan
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Posted By: willf270 on December 23 2021 at 10:37:10 AM

I agree Port is the best facility and most nights track is good, sometimes great. Second is Lincoln for the track and competition only, facility and lack of varity of schedule keeps it from being better. BUT its easier to create a top notch facility like Port Royal when you get State grants and fair board money to make improvments. Lincoln, Baps and others have to rely on owners getting financing to make improvements.

I also agree we need to stop bashing each track, be glad we have them to go to, remember you could live in Idaho. We stand to lose a very nostaglic track in Trailway. anyone that has spent a night there understands what i mean.



Another guy who exagerates the State funding. A few projects have happened that way but most is from income produced by the track, They have no more access to state funding than any other active fair. You just have to have someone with the ambition to go after it. Where do you think most of the Fair Board money comes from? The vast majority of it comes from the the racing. One difference is that no one is making their living from it. Being a non profit organization the income from from racing has to go back into the facility rather than in an owners pocket.




BStrawser26
December 23, 2021 at 01:10:01 PM
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Posted By: longtimefan on December 23 2021 at 12:48:19 PM

Another guy who exagerates the State funding. A few projects have happened that way but most is from income produced by the track, They have no more access to state funding than any other active fair. You just have to have someone with the ambition to go after it. Where do you think most of the Fair Board money comes from? The vast majority of it comes from the the racing. One difference is that no one is making their living from it. Being a non profit organization the income from from racing has to go back into the facility rather than in an owners pocket.



Where did the money come from for the first set of grandstands?  I will give you a hint....not from the racing proceeds.  Maybe we should ask Sue Pontious?

The two I know about are as follows. 

1999 -  $800,000.00 Grant

2018 - 1.3 - Million Grant

I am sure if I were to dig deeper I could find some more grant monies given to them.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

longtimefan
December 23, 2021 at 01:59:39 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on December 23 2021 at 01:10:01 PM

Where did the money come from for the first set of grandstands?  I will give you a hint....not from the racing proceeds.  Maybe we should ask Sue Pontious?

The two I know about are as follows. 

1999 -  $800,000.00 Grant

2018 - 1.3 - Million Grant

I am sure if I were to dig deeper I could find some more grant monies given to them.



What are you a super duper secret agent now. That took alot of investigating to learn something that was in all local newspapers and was the ones that I refered to as ones that came from grants. Two grants 19 years apart hardly covers everything done there. One of them long before the major improvements started.  And as I said they are not elegible for anything that every other active fair can't have.



BStrawser26
December 23, 2021 at 02:20:58 PM
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Posted By: longtimefan on December 23 2021 at 01:59:39 PM

What are you a super duper secret agent now. That took alot of investigating to learn something that was in all local newspapers and was the ones that I refered to as ones that came from grants. Two grants 19 years apart hardly covers everything done there. One of them long before the major improvements started.  And as I said they are not elegible for anything that every other active fair can't have.



No, I have my BS detector working just fine thank you.

The first one for 800,000.00 was for the grandstands.

Yeah, the one in 2018 didn't do anything?....did it only 1.3 million.  This is when a lot of the real big stuff started happening again.

I bet if I did some more research I would be willing to bet there is/was more grant money given to them over the years. 

But all the improvements are not from the profit of the races they get a lot of grant money.  

 

 


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!



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