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Then he flips his car twice and will not be starting in the A main on Saturday.  He will need to be in Tulsa a lot sooner than he was planning.

Just proves that anything can happen to one of the best. To be honest of the 300+ cars most names are not names we recognize. Kyle was the one most were watching and even though He didnt lock in. As stated the heat draw and quality of drivers is the start of the process to score enough points and He had to make the A the hard way and did get up to 11th. Whatever outcome his presence added to the hype that the Chili Bowl has. Without Rico and Bell it added to the creditability to who ever wins the coveted Golden Driller.This is the biggest race of the year for midgets due to timing and drivers from others venues wanting to race . I was told that renting a top ride can be $25k + depending so The Golden Driller means more than money!

I'm sure Kyle Larson wants to be in Vado New Mexico about as bad as the Miami Dolphins want to be in Kansas City on Saturday night. 

And you and FiXXXer never miss an opportunity to bash Larson, and in-turn, High Limit. Funny, I didn't see any High Limit decals on his car last night. But last night was all about promoting High Limit, right?

Nice to know we have someone on here who is that close to the Larson camp that he knows the exact reason Larson raced last night. Amazing insight.

Of course it's both things. It's a known thing that Kyle Larson loves to race. Kinda like the sun being hot or water being wet so I don't see the need to preface every Larson comment with "He loves to race but.....". Anyone who whether or not Larson loves to race at this point is dumber than Strawser. He does. Maybe as much as anyone who ever lived. Again, it's a known thing to virtually everyone who knows what a race car is at this point. 

I don't bash Larson. I like him actually even if I don't agree with things he does all the time. It's ok to point out that he's a businessman and self promotion is something he does quite well. His most valuable business asset is himself and he knows it. It's not an insult. It's just a fact.....maybe even a compliment because he's reached such a status within the sport. But the people who gush over him like he's the 2nd coming of christ get ridiculously offended when anyone eludes to Kyle Larson the human rather than the god they seem to think he is. Obviously he created a huge buzz by being there but I don't think it was all about High Limit. Indirectly, it brings exposure to High Limit because he's part owner of the damn thing but I think it was more about Flo getting him there to create more buzz around the event and him pulling a favor for his most important investor. Without Flo, there's no High Limit. It's not bashing or an insult. It's business which is what any form of motorsports is. Just because he didn't have a sticker on the car doesn't mean shit. Marketing isn't always about smashing your product logo into everyone's faces. There's lots of different tactics marketing teams will use including playing up someone's image. Think about how Dale Earnhardt really played up the "Intimidator" thing. He gained that nickname by putting the fear of god into anyone who saw him in the rear view mirror and from being a legitimate hard ass on the track just like Kyle has gained  a reputation of racing anything, anytime, anywhere. Earnhardt made bank on being the Intimidator just like Kyle does being Yung Money. Again, it's ok to point this out and it doesn't mean that he doesn't love racing just because he's also very absorbed in the business side of things. After all, he's human. He may be an all time great in all of racing, but he's also a human. His groupies seem to forget that for some reason.

LOL  "Never miss an opportunity"? �  I've made like three total posts in the last several years. It's only been because of the extreme BS and naïveté on display recently regarding HL, Larson and Sweet that I've even joined the conversation. But carry on. You've got it all under control. 

"I'll speak slower.... haha

I understood your comment, I just disagree

Like I said before he doesn't need ANY of this dirt track stuff. He doesn't need FLO or High Limits

He's making Big $$$ in NASCAR & the only reason he risks his life for chicken feed is cause he likes it'

Neither of us can read his mind

OPINION!

https://www.racingamerica.com/news/dirt-cars/kyle-larson-expects-to-miss-chili-bowl-cites-purse-as-factor 

"I'm just at the point where I want to see the purse grow a lot. So, for the time being, and unless that happens, I won't be running it this year and I know there are a lot of racers that feel the same way."

- Kyle Larson 

So, did the total purse or Kyle's payout grow a lot? Everyone has morals until money is involved.

Kyle is a generational talent but he and Sweet have a history of saying things, only to backtrack quickly on them. Honestly, I don't care either way. Just remember who is calling the shots. It's Flo. Kyle and Brad can say what they want, but they have to listen to Flo even if it contradicts themselves. It's obvious Kyle brings view to Flo for this race. 

I hear Kyle and Brad are for the racers, but they keep posiitoning themselves to reap the biggest benefits.How long until we have High Limit Midgets or Late Models. You don't think they removed "sprint cars" from their name by chance, do you? Next they will want to elevate all of dirt track racing. 

I don't know if that's necessarily the truth. I went back and checked your posts. Since December 6th, you've posted 15 times. I couldn't find one of them, but the other 14 all dog on High Limit, Kyle Larson, Brad Sweet, etc. Mostly it's you ragging on people, calling them "dummies", and "homers" and saying no one understands the "marketing" going on. It's all fine and well that you have your opinions and convictions but at least be honest and own up to what you say.

They raised the purse.   

https://www.floracing.com/articles/11305554-purse-increase-announced-for-2024-chili-bowl-nationals

or 

Link to 2024 Chili Bowl Purse Article

Here is another article where Larson "comes clean" about purse drama.

https://www.essentiallysports.com/nascar-news-never-used-the-word-boycotting-kyle-larson-comes-clean-on-last-seasons-frustrating-chili-bowl-purse-drama/

or

Link - Larson Discusses Drama

I just read LARSON DISCUSSES DRAMA.  All I can say is spin spin spin.  Larson must have been a cornerback in another life because that article had alot of backpedaling.

Funny he missed two years,  but he loves the race and all his friends are there.  He is the one who brought up the purse but now he doesn't want to discuss it.   He doesn't want to take away from the race and make unneeded distractions. 

He missed two years and now he is in partnership ship with FLO and what a coincidence he is back.

It's possible he learnt that this isn't his race to run and after trying to run a few himself has also realized that those decisions are complex and he should just let the people who know ALL the details to run the event. It might be called "maturing" for which we should be thankful. Makes zero difference to me why his is there and if he can ruffle less feathers and support someone lenses event good for him. If he benefits from it also, so be it. 

To be honest,that interview sounded like someone at FLO wrote it for him.

In the words of those famous Australian social commentators AC/DC "Come on, come on, listen to the money talk".

Did i strike a nerve for you to take the time to look up my posts. Had to figure out how but went to look too and you're right I have posted 15 times in the past 6 months. three of them were simply agreeing with another poster. And I believe another 5 have been responses related to this post alone.  but I believe accuracy is important  I stand corrected  

But while you're being accusatory I'm not sure you're being truthful either. Please show me where I've called anyone "dummies" as you've indicated. If so I will apologize. But it seems you are adding editorial content to be inflammatory and make your point. 

Please. If you/others will go back to my original post in this thread you will see it was not critical of Larson. It was simply pointing out that he may have business/marketing interests in showing up at the CB not simply because he likes to race. I don't blame him. If you're in his shoes, Flo, or Sweet you should understand exactly what they doing. Anyone who's owned a business would do similar things to market and bring attention to their business interests. Kyle is their most valuable marketing asset. Rico is the second most valuable. It is smart for him to show up at CB. Same for having Rico and Sweet both down in Australia. It's all about marketing, PR and exposure for the HL brand. I get it. What I find concerrning is how many do not see it for what it is. People who buy the awe shucks I just wannna race without thinking that there is likely another driving force as well. Seems like a lack of critical thinking. That's all. 

I don't doubt commercial concerns (especially for FLO) had something to do with his decision, but I don't think its his primary motivation

He competes in plenty of low buck races, risking his life cause he LIKES it

Thats why he's a race car driver instead of a stock broker

In fairness, you didn't call anyone a dummy, but I do feel like it was implied. You didn't strike a nerve. I'm blizzarded in and had the time to investigate when your comment made a light go on in my head. You did call people homers which is usually tossed around as people who won't listen to others' logic or opinions because they are so enamored in something or someone. 

I agree that the appearance has more to do with business promotion than love of racing. I doubt that Kyle was the one writing the check to rent the midget he raced, or to pay for repairs.

And, how much appearance money did Larson get for flipping a Kunz car twice in one night?

Appreciate the dialogue. I don't know you, but have lost respect for you. Words do mean something. I use the words I intend. I used the word "homers" once and I intended it t. However, your previous post indicates that I had called people "dummies" (in fact you put it in quotes to indicate I had used that exact word). When called on it your reasoning for doing that is to say you felt it was implied. I can assure you if I intended that thought I would have used that word. Shameful. 

My apologies. I'm not an "English teacher ". Are you?