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The high limit sprint car series will be just like the USA deal. 1 yr and it will be over. Marks had a incredible year, chances of that taking place again are slim.  Do I think guys should be allowed to race when and where they choose to ? For sure. WRG compensates the tour drivers quite well. The teams on the road already have employee issue, the crewchief and driver are doing ok but the guys below that do it for the love of the sport because there not banking a lot of money. No matter how you cut it and you always here it, guys get burned out quickly with the travel and the work schedules. Teams load up after a night of racing  have cleaning and maintenance issues to deal with, travel time to the next race, and where they plan on stopping for the night. Most hotels you need to be checked out by 10. Yea, great life, and not so long ago drivers and team owners begged for less shows because they couldn't get help. They were all getting burned out. More days on the road is not the answer. 

That is a HORRIBLE deal.  WRG should allow the drivers to race whenever and wherever they want during the weekdays.  Nascar lets there drivers go and race on dirt during the week.  The outlaws have stepped way out of bounds on this judgement.   The Allstars also let there drivers race when and where they want.  It is time for WRG to let there drivers do the same.  

That is a HORRIBLE deal.  WRG should allow the drivers to race whenever and wherever they want during the weekdays.  Nascar lets there drivers go and race on dirt during the week.  The outlaws have stepped way out of bounds on this judgement.   The Allstars also let there drivers race when and where they want.  It is time for WRG to let there drivers do the same.  

You should start your own sprint car series and rival the Outlaws.  Pay them the same purse, points money, and give them tow/show-up money.   Then, allow them to race wherever they want all season as long as it doesn't interfere with your shows.  Then, you can sit there scratching your head as to why your stands aren't full when your series rolls into town.  Maybe because fans can see those drivers anywhere?   Afterall, your show isn't special anymore.  

Also---great argument comparing them to the All-Stars.  I forgot the All-Star's offer the same amount of money to run as the Outlaws, right?  Oh, nevermind.  

Nascar?  Their stands are 1/3 - 1/2 full at best.  Great comparison.  You're kinda making my point for me.  If I can go see Kyle Larson at Knoxville, why would I pay stupid money to see him at Kansas or Bristol?  If he races all over CA, why would I pay for a ticket at California Speedway?  

And, by the way, I didn't say everyone had to like the rule.  I am just baffled at how many think the WRG is bad at business.  They appear to be brilliant at business.  

You should start your own sprint car series and rival the Outlaws.  Pay them the same purse, points money, and give them tow/show-up money.   Then, allow them to race wherever they want all season as long as it doesn't interfere with your shows.  Then, you can sit there scratching your head as to why your stands aren't full when your series rolls into town.  Maybe because fans can see those drivers anywhere?   Afterall, your show isn't special anymore.  

Also---great argument comparing them to the All-Stars.  I forgot the All-Star's offer the same amount of money to run as the Outlaws, right?  Oh, nevermind.  

Nascar?  Their stands are 1/3 - 1/2 full at best.  Great comparison.  You're kinda making my point for me.  If I can go see Kyle Larson at Knoxville, why would I pay stupid money to see him at Kansas or Bristol?  If he races all over CA, why would I pay for a ticket at California Speedway?  

And, by the way, I didn't say everyone had to like the rule.  I am just baffled at how many think the WRG is bad at business.  They appear to be brilliant at business.  

This deal might look good on the surface, but it's not what people think. There is an increase of roughly $110,000 in bonus money for the champion. Second is around $45,000 compared to last year, and third is $13,000 compared to last year. After that, it drops down to $5,000 more depending on the position. Toward 10th, it drops down to roughly $1,500 more than 2022.

Something to note: If the series ends up running more races than last year — 69 a year ago — that cuts into those increases, because it was a per-race performance in 2022. We will see how it shakes out.

As for the four races, that might be the biggest sore spot. The Cappy, Front Row Challenge, two races at Eldora Kings Royal week, all count against the teams. In the past, such events didn't. So, WRG didn't give at all on that. Also, if a driver runs another car — say Zearfoss for Aaron Long or Macedo for Tarlton — it counts against the driver and not the Outlaw team. In turn, the bonus money can be cut in half if they cross the four threshold. 

I will have a story explaining the owner's stance and how this all transpired in the next couple of days. 

So what happens if most or even all of the platinum drivers decide to run all of or at least 9 of the High Limit shows?   And none are eligible for the championship?   I know it won't happen like that but it could if they stuck together. 

Yes, you only make a lot more money racing Nascar!!  And no I don't like nascar.  I am not making your point.  I would go watch the big boys anyday of the week as long as I had enough vacation.  That I a fact.  I wouldn't care where or what they raced.   

WRG the only reason they are revelant is because of Dirtvision.   Remember they were really struggling before that for many years!

I know it's unlikely to happen----doesn't make financial sense to run all WoO races and not be a platinum member----do you have to be a platinum member to accumlate points and win the title?  There are over 300 drivers annually on the WoO points list.  

You should start your own sprint car series and rival the Outlaws.  Pay them the same purse, points money, and give them tow/show-up money.   Then, allow them to race wherever they want all season as long as it doesn't interfere with your shows.  Then, you can sit there scratching your head as to why your stands aren't full when your series rolls into town.  Maybe because fans can see those drivers anywhere?   Afterall, your show isn't special anymore.  

Also---great argument comparing them to the All-Stars.  I forgot the All-Star's offer the same amount of money to run as the Outlaws, right?  Oh, nevermind.  

Nascar?  Their stands are 1/3 - 1/2 full at best.  Great comparison.  You're kinda making my point for me.  If I can go see Kyle Larson at Knoxville, why would I pay stupid money to see him at Kansas or Bristol?  If he races all over CA, why would I pay for a ticket at California Speedway?  

And, by the way, I didn't say everyone had to like the rule.  I am just baffled at how many think the WRG is bad at business.  They appear to be brilliant at business.  

You should start your own sprint car series and rival the Outlaws.  Pay them the same purse, points money, and give them tow/show-up money.   Then, allow them to race wherever they want all season as long as it doesn't interfere with your shows.  Then, you can sit there scratching your head as to why your stands aren't full when your series rolls into town.  Maybe because fans can see those drivers anywhere?   Afterall, your show isn't special anymore.  

Also---great argument comparing them to the All-Stars.  I forgot the All-Star's offer the same amount of money to run as the Outlaws, right?  Oh, nevermind.  

Nascar?  Their stands are 1/3 - 1/2 full at best.  Great comparison.  You're kinda making my point for me.  If I can go see Kyle Larson at Knoxville, why would I pay stupid money to see him at Kansas or Bristol?  If he races all over CA, why would I pay for a ticket at California Speedway?  

And, by the way, I didn't say everyone had to like the rule.  I am just baffled at how many think the WRG is bad at business.  They appear to be brilliant at business.  

Keep in mind, this is a guy who thinks you can't have a big race without the outlaws. Go figure.

This has always been worded "not so good"
Anyone with a more clear explanation?

"World of Outlaws drivers or teams will now be able to race four non-World of Outlaws nights without restrictions as long as they are outside of 48 hours or a 100-mile radius on either side of a scheduled event."

The July 13th Million Dollar race is both inside of 48 hours and within a 100 mile radius of Friday's WoO race at Eldora.

So I interpret that as they can not race July 13th period. No?

The High Limit races appear to be scheduled 48 hours after or before from a Woo event therefore they can run up to four of those without penalty. No?

So what happens if most or even all of the platinum drivers decide to run all of or at least 9 of the High Limit shows?   And none are eligible for the championship?   I know it won't happen like that but it could if they stuck together.