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Murphy
March 08, 2022 at 10:05:10 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on March 08 2022 at 09:25:48 PM

Not means nothing of the sort.... asphalt Port Royal is all that means!!



I guess I can kinda understand how a guy new to the sport of sprint car racing could get confused about what makes a good race. Hint: passing. 



revjimk
March 09, 2022 at 10:49:52 AM
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Posted By: Murphy on March 08 2022 at 10:05:10 PM

I guess I can kinda understand how a guy new to the sport of sprint car racing could get confused about what makes a good race. Hint: passing. 



BINGO!



revjimk
March 09, 2022 at 10:55:56 AM
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Posted By: BillV99 on March 08 2022 at 12:26:12 PM

It's amazing to me that people don't understand the difference between what they call, or believe to be 'fact' or 'truth', when clearly its thier OPINION, which has nothing to do with 'truth' or 'fact'.

And it's also very funny that the one 'fact' you bring up is Port Royal's 4.4 average starting position for 2021, saying 'That tells me that it is too hard black and dry to be able to pass in the feature.'  

I hope you do realize, that the 4.4 stat is the HIGHEST among all tracks running 410s regularly.  So if 4.4 tells you that hard black and dry makes it unable to pass, what does that say about other tracks that you claim have better surfaces?

Average Winning Starting Positions

  • 4.4 Port Royal Speedway (PA)
  • 4.3 Lincoln Speedway (PA)
  • 4.0 Knoxville Raceway (IA)
  • 3.9 Fremont Speedway (OH)
  • 3.6 Attica Raceway Park (OH)
  • 3.6 Sharon Speedway (OH)
  • 3.4 River Cities Speedway (ND)
  • 3.2 Husets Speedway (SD)
  • 2.2 Williams Grove Speedway (PA)
  • 2.2 Lernerville Speedway (PA)
  • 2.2 Jacksonville Speedway (IL)


Thank you!!!!!

That SHOULD settle it.... wink




revjimk
March 09, 2022 at 10:57:01 AM
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Posted By: Murphy on March 08 2022 at 12:46:34 PM

Thanks for the info Bill. That's kind of interesting. I've found that people who can't tell their facts from their own opinions are like an early warning system for spotting narcissists. 

Hey Strawser- chcek it out. According to the math, Port Royal has a surface that's twice as racy as Williams Grove. 4.4 verses 2.2. It just proves what a good job they do on surface prep at Port Royal.



I've always suspected Port was racier than the Grove, & this proves it



revjimk
March 09, 2022 at 11:01:32 AM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on March 08 2022 at 12:50:47 PM

4.4 is a fact.  That is still horrible.  The fact that there best racing is in the heats should tell you something.  There track prep stinks. That is a Fact Jack!

I go to Williamsgrove about 4 or 5 times a year.  I have never said Williamsgrove was easy to make a pass by the drivers and it has nothing to do with track prep and everything to do with track layout.  

 

Lincoln - has a 4.3 that is a fact.  That is horrible too.  However, there features are always better than there heats because of how they prepare the track.  Lincoln has the best track of any in PA! 



Ever hear about this "logic" thing????

If Port has the furthest back average winner's start, but thats's horrible, therefore all sprint car racing is horrible, no?

Plus, BillV's stats are about FEATURES, not heats...... so your continual carping about heats vs. features is meaningless

This clown has a new debating tool: instead of just "You can't handle the truth", now he adds "Jack".... VERY convincing! wink

 



revjimk
March 09, 2022 at 11:08:59 AM
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Posted By: newbeevur on March 08 2022 at 09:14:35 PM

Murphy STOP spewing out the bullcrap and the lies!

Tri State Sppedway in Haubstadt, IN is the best prepped track you have never been to!

Helluva job throwing out the troll line and stirring the pot though...

The numbers Bill put on here are very depressing.

Me and Murphy at our home 410 track- Husets- get to watch the winner charge all the way from inside 2nd row, YAY!!!

Is it time once and all for weekly shows to shitcan the wretched time trials and line up cars by some sort of POINTS INVERSION!?!?!?

I am guessing most of us on Hoseheads are old enough to remember when racing meant the top point fast guys starting towards the back and actually doing some PASSING and earning a win. Not this follow the leader horse dung.

 

 



Good post.... I have no opinion on track prep, other than seeing if the race is competitive, but Haubstadt was my first Indiana bullring & got me hooked on wingless racing.

Totally agree on points inversion. I got started on dirt track back in the early 60s, Eastside Speedway in Waynesboro, Va. where Smokey Stover won 24 out of 26 features STARTING FROM THE BACK in 1962! It was exciting as could be. Of course the cars were all home built & different back then... he had the fastest car, but it takes some hellacious driving to pass all those guys!




revjimk
March 09, 2022 at 11:13:39 AM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on March 08 2022 at 12:54:39 PM

There is only one truth and that is never changing.  Port is the worst prepared track around.  Sorry to dissapoint you!  That is a fact not an opinion.  Facts are facts.  Look at how hard black and dry it is before the heats.  

Did they rework the track on Sunday.   LOL!!!  Yes, reworking the track that is excellent track prep.  Right razor Steve?



Here comes the knockout punch:

You can't handle the facts, Jack!

Give up?



BStrawser26
March 09, 2022 at 11:56:10 AM
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Posted By: rolldog on March 08 2022 at 04:58:50 PM

What is your source for these facts?  Please share them with the board.



I have seen many of features at the Port.  None of them worse since razor Steve took over.  

Just look at the heats towards the features.  Those are your facts.  Racing is always better in the heats at Port unless it rains on raceday.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

BStrawser26
March 09, 2022 at 11:58:27 AM
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Posted By: revjimk on March 09 2022 at 10:49:52 AM

BINGO!



Now just if the Port had the passing in the features they do in the heats.  That will never ever happen with razor steve preparing the track.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!


BStrawser26
March 09, 2022 at 11:59:02 AM
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Posted By: revjimk on March 09 2022 at 10:55:56 AM

Thank you!!!!!

That SHOULD settle it.... wink



Settle what?  That doesn't settle anything.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

BStrawser26
March 09, 2022 at 12:01:40 PM
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Posted By: revjimk on March 09 2022 at 11:13:39 AM

Here comes the knockout punch:

You can't handle the facts, Jack!

Give up?



You are the one that can't handle the facts, Jack.

I will give Port what they gave me since razor Steve took over.   Nothing!!  That is out of my wallet.  

They will never have a clue how to prepare a dirt track. 


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

revjimk
March 09, 2022 at 12:14:16 PM
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BillV just posted the FACTS about FEATURES

Port has the most competitive features: Fact, Jack

YOU are the one who can't handle the truth, JILL! wink




Murphy
March 09, 2022 at 12:29:08 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on March 09 2022 at 11:58:27 AM

Now just if the Port had the passing in the features they do in the heats.  That will never ever happen with razor steve preparing the track.



They do. In fact, Port Royal has the most passing of any regular 410 track. See Bill V's post a little further back on this thread for the truth. Let me know if you need me to walk you through the math





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