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Dtfl125
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August 04, 2021 at 03:04:57 PM
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I saw somebody say on Twitter that pauly c, might have failed a tire test this weekend as well



Sonicman1
August 04, 2021 at 03:07:42 PM
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Funny that a sticker that is that important can be that easily removed.  (I know I used the word "that" 4x there, weird).  Reason I say this is becasue they do make stickers that cant be removed without ruining them.  I know this doesnt lessen any blame on AR, but one would think if it is that big of a deal to inspection purposes that somebody should have at least thought, "hey..we shouldnt just slap a simple sticker on these so all a person has to do to cheat is easily rip it off and slap it back on."  IJS



laudarevsonhunt
August 04, 2021 at 03:17:20 PM
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I saw somebody say on Twitter that pauly c, might have failed a tire test this weekend as well



You can't run green tires? Kraig Kinser your winner.




Dryslick Willie
August 04, 2021 at 03:24:51 PM
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Posted By: Murphy on August 04 2021 at 02:15:44 PM

     Where are all you "in the know" people getting your information from? Is this on Facebook, Twitter, someone's official website?



My thoughts as well.  Reutzel is supposedly being suspended from the WoO and fired by Roth?   Yet nothing on any official forum or news source about it.   



Sonicman1
August 04, 2021 at 03:27:05 PM
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It just occured to me that the 83 car owner (Roth family) would be pretty dumb to fire a driver right at Nationals time. If I were them and wanted my driver gone it would be a few lies this week telling him he is G2G and to drive the wheels off it at Knoxville.  Then post Nationals its sayonara. Sorry not sorry...



RonJABurgundy
August 04, 2021 at 03:42:43 PM
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I think it is always funny, how its always someone else that gets in trouble from the World of Outlaws and they make it public and a press release....however when it one of their own that gets caught they are null and void about it. 

 

I can mention numorous locals or not their own who have been caught, suspended and a PR written and release about their actions. 

Tyler Erb

Jeff Halligan

Chase Majdic

Justin Peck

Chris Martin

Brian Lay

Justin Ratliff

 

However when it has been their own getting caught they do not do anything. 

Lasoski's Tire Sample

Jason Meyers with the same illegal frames as Aaron

Swindell Car being light at the scales even tho every car but 1 was fine that night. 

Shark racing with funny tires 

but who knows becuase their wonder boys mistakes always get swept under the rugs. 

 

 




Stroker_Race
August 04, 2021 at 03:43:16 PM
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Posted By: Sonicman1 on August 04 2021 at 03:27:05 PM

It just occured to me that the 83 car owner (Roth family) would be pretty dumb to fire a driver right at Nationals time. If I were them and wanted my driver gone it would be a few lies this week telling him he is G2G and to drive the wheels off it at Knoxville.  Then post Nationals its sayonara. Sorry not sorry...



Or better yet, give Tim Shaffer a call.  No need to delay the inevitable.  I'd say A-ron is gone along with the crew-chief as of this past Monday.  I think we should also consider giving Kraig Kinser a congratulations on the win this past Friday night.



Stroker_Race
August 04, 2021 at 03:46:20 PM
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Posted By: RonJABurgundy on August 04 2021 at 03:42:43 PM

I think it is always funny, how its always someone else that gets in trouble from the World of Outlaws and they make it public and a press release....however when it one of their own that gets caught they are null and void about it. 

 

I can mention numorous locals or not their own who have been caught, suspended and a PR written and release about their actions. 

Tyler Erb

Jeff Halligan

Chase Majdic

Justin Peck

Chris Martin

Brian Lay

Justin Ratliff

 

However when it has been their own getting caught they do not do anything. 

Lasoski's Tire Sample

Jason Meyers with the same illegal frames as Aaron

Swindell Car being light at the scales even tho every car but 1 was fine that night. 

Shark racing with funny tires 

but who knows becuase their wonder boys mistakes always get swept under the rugs. 

 

 



You forgot the KKR light frame car that Brad Sweet literally tore in half at Burlington a few years back.  You also failed to mention about 430 reasons the Shark cars were so fast on year 2 and 3, if not even more recently.



Design500
August 04, 2021 at 04:09:43 PM
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One thing I wished the WOO would do after each race is the same tech that the All stars do, As in pumping motors... I think we would be suprised what you would find...  a 360 driver was DQed at the jackson motorplex due to post race inspection.. pumped a 388.. Id hate to see what some of these 410s would pump




MidMoRaceFan
August 04, 2021 at 04:13:13 PM
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Posted By: Stroker_Race on August 04 2021 at 03:43:16 PM

Or better yet, give Tim Shaffer a call.  No need to delay the inevitable.  I'd say A-ron is gone along with the crew-chief as of this past Monday.  I think we should also consider giving Kraig Kinser a congratulations on the win this past Friday night.



The replacement driver is from California, from what I understand. �



lazlo
August 04, 2021 at 04:22:45 PM
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Posted By: rolldog on August 04 2021 at 09:03:03 AM

How is it beneficial to cheat with thinner tubes on the frame?  You save some weight on the frame and add it back in a more strategic spot in order to make the minimum weight.  Does it make that big of a difference?  Are you saving 10-15 pounds or is it "way" more than that?  Is there some other reason to do this?



Non-wing frames have thin bottom tubes, it does flex and it helps with forward bite.  Thin bottom tubes are not a weight thing, it's a traction thing.  WoO has rules that outlaw (!) thinner bottom frame rails.



mongooseman
August 04, 2021 at 05:06:19 PM
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Posted By: Design500 on August 04 2021 at 04:09:43 PM

One thing I wished the WOO would do after each race is the same tech that the All stars do, As in pumping motors... I think we would be suprised what you would find...  a 360 driver was DQed at the jackson motorplex due to post race inspection.. pumped a 388.. Id hate to see what some of these 410s would pump



Woo has been known to do some thorough tech..... when their boys don't win.  Last thorough engine teardown i'm aware was naturally in the state of PA...   I know a very popular woo figure that won a very, very big annual race in the midwest for several years and the car was loaded in the box without any tech inspection whatsoever.  But yet when they get beat in PA the fuel and tire samples are a sure thing, at the minimum.  Woo stands to protect the platinum boys




BMarks1
August 04, 2021 at 05:18:39 PM
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Posted By: MidMoRaceFan on August 04 2021 at 04:13:13 PM

The replacement driver is from California, from what I understand. �



The arrogance and irresponsibilty here is so ridiculous.  Violating this rule for the 3rd time, driving for Roth making it high profile, being a rule which is in affect for safety reasons.  Pretty bad.

Aaron needs to think more about family and being around for a long time then he does about breaking the rules to win races.

He had to know he is under the microscope having broken this rule before.(Not to mention throwing a bicycle at a guy that I think is respected by a lot of people.)

WoO need to make a statement on this.  The silence is deafening. 

I hope Aaron will man up and admit to the fans and everyone(including his son) that this was a HUGE mistake and he will make changes in the future and fly right. People are very forgiving if people are honest about mistakes and not make bad decisions in the future.

I do wish him all the luck in the world, but if I was a car owner or sponsor, I would be running the other way very fast. Only an apology to the fans will make things better short term. 



armyduke
August 04, 2021 at 06:10:29 PM
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Press release is out 



JJRFan
August 04, 2021 at 06:18:23 PM
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Roth 83 penalties




bbqking
August 04, 2021 at 06:26:45 PM
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Wow. Slap on the wrist for Reutzel if you ask me. Only a $1000 fine and 30 day suspension?  Roth has to be fuming, seeing he was fined $10000.  WoO decision a real head scratcher.



bbqking
August 04, 2021 at 06:34:34 PM
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You are correct. My bad.



tylera189
August 04, 2021 at 06:46:54 PM
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Posted By: Sonicman1 on August 04 2021 at 03:07:42 PM

Funny that a sticker that is that important can be that easily removed.  (I know I used the word "that" 4x there, weird).  Reason I say this is becasue they do make stickers that cant be removed without ruining them.  I know this doesnt lessen any blame on AR, but one would think if it is that big of a deal to inspection purposes that somebody should have at least thought, "hey..we shouldnt just slap a simple sticker on these so all a person has to do to cheat is easily rip it off and slap it back on."  IJS



I have personally removed, and seen those types of stickers removed with little to no damage. I have done it with trail permit stickers on snowmobiles, atv's etc... But when I raced NHRA I saw guys who removed sfi chassis tags without much effort, lil heat, adhesive remover. Also at one point in time getting fake SFI tags was pretty easy. AAron prolly shoulda looked into getting new stickers printed lol




dsc1600
August 04, 2021 at 07:26:29 PM
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People getting super worked up about this. I wonder what the reaction would be if it wasn't Reutzel? Regardless, a justified penalty, probably one that was deserved a while ago. 



baltimore
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August 04, 2021 at 07:43:53 PM
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Posted By: dsc1600 on August 04 2021 at 07:26:29 PM

People getting super worked up about this. I wonder what the reaction would be if it wasn't Reutzel? Regardless, a justified penalty, probably one that was deserved a while ago. 



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