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JJRFan
October 04, 2021 at 02:28:47 PM
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Posted By: dsc1600 on October 04 2021 at 09:16:19 AM

I'd make one change. The heat winners pick spots 1-4. The 2nd place finishers pick spots 5-8. It might make the battles for the heats a bit more interesting and doesn't allow for a guy who sets quick time and wins his heat to be "rewarded" with starting 8th in the dash.  



I had a similar idea where there's now just 4 pills marked 1/5, 2/6, 3/7, 4/8 with the chance of still a shake up from the time trials order, but not having any of this win your heat after a great qualifying setup and drawing the 8 straight away while Brad qualifies a 4th starting spot, gains 2 spots, and gives himself a choice of 3-4 pills rather than 8. Very low odds drawing later that the top 2 rows are already gone. It's really the new version of sand bagging.



hiroshimacarp
October 04, 2021 at 03:06:13 PM
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i look at the posse vs outlaws thing as a gimmick from the race promotors and sanctioning groups to get people fired up and out to the race.  it's fun to root fo the pa guys...but doesn't bother me at all when they lose.  it's cool they can even say they have a chance.  what other form of racing...or sports for that matter...shows up in your neighborhood with the absolute best in their sport and goes head to head with the guys you watch every week?  

it should...and already does...sell itself so i tune out all the posse vs outlaws stuff.

the highlight of the year for me was danny dietrich getting second at eldora.  really impressive what he did out there.  



revjimk
October 04, 2021 at 04:51:29 PM
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Posted By: JJRFan on October 04 2021 at 02:28:47 PM

I had a similar idea where there's now just 4 pills marked 1/5, 2/6, 3/7, 4/8 with the chance of still a shake up from the time trials order, but not having any of this win your heat after a great qualifying setup and drawing the 8 straight away while Brad qualifies a 4th starting spot, gains 2 spots, and gives himself a choice of 3-4 pills rather than 8. Very low odds drawing later that the top 2 rows are already gone. It's really the new version of sand bagging.



Thats pretty confusing

Which position do you get with 2 numbers on each pill??????




JJRFan
October 04, 2021 at 10:28:11 PM
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Posted By: revjimk on October 04 2021 at 04:51:29 PM

Thats pretty confusing

Which position do you get with 2 numbers on each pill??????



Let me clarify, it's the heat finishers, So say Heat 1 draws the 3/7 pills then the Heat Winner gets the 3rd spot, 7th spot goes to the 2nd place H1 finisher. Didn't think I'd have to explain that since I was replying to the suggestion of P1 in the heats draw 1 through 4, and P2 draw 5 through 8. Then the smaller shows (3 heats, 6 car dashes) draw all 6 spots individually.



egras
October 05, 2021 at 07:59:05 AM
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Posted By: JJRFan on October 04 2021 at 10:28:11 PM

Let me clarify, it's the heat finishers, So say Heat 1 draws the 3/7 pills then the Heat Winner gets the 3rd spot, 7th spot goes to the 2nd place H1 finisher. Didn't think I'd have to explain that since I was replying to the suggestion of P1 in the heats draw 1 through 4, and P2 draw 5 through 8. Then the smaller shows (3 heats, 6 car dashes) draw all 6 spots individually.



I like it



dsc1600
October 05, 2021 at 10:21:59 AM
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Kudos to the Grove for adding $25k to the purse this year. Paying $25k for 2nd and $10k for 3rd is a big improvement from years past. 




cubicdollars
October 05, 2021 at 06:24:18 PM
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Posted By: dsc1600 on October 05 2021 at 10:21:59 AM

Kudos to the Grove for adding $25k to the purse this year. Paying $25k for 2nd and $10k for 3rd is a big improvement from years past. 



+1

Posse is fast.

Not much passing first night. Larson wasn't that good just started up front. Showed he wasn't that good 2nd night.

Marks had them covered again, was just a little too fast. Couldn't get whoa'd up in time for lap car.

Posse will spank World of Also-Rans at Port this weekend.

 


 

 

 

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BStrawser26
October 11, 2021 at 12:17:53 PM
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Posted By: cubicdollars on October 05 2021 at 06:24:18 PM

+1

Posse is fast.

Not much passing first night. Larson wasn't that good just started up front. Showed he wasn't that good 2nd night.

Marks had them covered again, was just a little too fast. Couldn't get whoa'd up in time for lap car.

Posse will spank World of Also-Rans at Port this weekend.

 



How did the posse do against the WOO at Port last weekend?


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BStrawser26
October 11, 2021 at 02:56:04 PM
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Posted By: cubicdollars on October 05 2021 at 06:24:18 PM

+1

Posse is fast.

Not much passing first night. Larson wasn't that good just started up front. Showed he wasn't that good 2nd night.

Marks had them covered again, was just a little too fast. Couldn't get whoa'd up in time for lap car.

Posse will spank World of Also-Rans at Port this weekend.

 



I have been trying not to chime in on this passing issue at the Grove both nights.

Friday was by far the better racing and I mean by far.

Lets compare the passing both nights.  Friday there was a bottom of the race track.  Saturday you had to do the slider for life to make any type of passes.

 

Friday 10.1.21 

Freddie - 26th to 7th - Hard Charger

DD - 21st to 8th

Macedo - 22nd to 10th

Mcfadden 24th to 14th

Peck 20th to 12th

 

Saturday 10.2.21

Sweet -19th to 10th - Hard Charger

Macedo - 6th to 1st

Larson - 13th to 8th

So please tell me again how the racing was so much better Saturday than Friday?  The track wasn't even close to having a bottom on Saturday night. 

 


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RodinCanada
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October 11, 2021 at 03:01:22 PM
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About the passing stuff. I watched the highlights from one of the Port Royal nights. There was 2 or 3 passes every lap in 3 or 4 car groupings containing multiple cars, but the same guy crossed the line first most of the time. My point is if you look at a stat sheet you cant tell if the positional splits were by seconds or thousandths or how many passes took place in 1 and 2 just to be undone in 3 and 4.

 

Port looked exciting on my computer in my living room from my couch....


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BStrawser26
October 11, 2021 at 03:17:27 PM
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Posted By: RodinCanada on October 11 2021 at 03:01:22 PM

About the passing stuff. I watched the highlights from one of the Port Royal nights. There was 2 or 3 passes every lap in 3 or 4 car groupings containing multiple cars, but the same guy crossed the line first most of the time. My point is if you look at a stat sheet you cant tell if the positional splits were by seconds or thousandths or how many passes took place in 1 and 2 just to be undone in 3 and 4.

 

Port looked exciting on my computer in my living room from my couch....



Do you know why?  The track was very well prepared.  Both nights none of the laptimes were in the 17 to 18 second bracket on the first night and the second night the timese were in the 16 to 17 for the features.  The norm for that place is usually somewhere in the high 19 to high 20 second bracket for lap times in the feature.....it is like watching grass grow when the cars are that slow.  

You know what Razor Steve would say.....you can't have a good race if it is tacky.  WRONG and WRONG again Razor Steve, but what else is new!!


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

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Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

Murphy
October 11, 2021 at 03:25:12 PM
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Posted By: RodinCanada on October 11 2021 at 03:01:22 PM

About the passing stuff. I watched the highlights from one of the Port Royal nights. There was 2 or 3 passes every lap in 3 or 4 car groupings containing multiple cars, but the same guy crossed the line first most of the time. My point is if you look at a stat sheet you cant tell if the positional splits were by seconds or thousandths or how many passes took place in 1 and 2 just to be undone in 3 and 4.

 

Port looked exciting on my computer in my living room from my couch....



The first night at Port Royal looked like it had a lot of passing for the lead. The second night, not so much.




RodinCanada
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October 11, 2021 at 03:42:09 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on October 11 2021 at 03:17:27 PM

Do you know why?  The track was very well prepared.  Both nights none of the laptimes were in the 17 to 18 second bracket on the first night and the second night the timese were in the 16 to 17 for the features.  The norm for that place is usually somewhere in the high 19 to high 20 second bracket for lap times in the feature.....it is like watching grass grow when the cars are that slow.  

You know what Razor Steve would say.....you can't have a good race if it is tacky.  WRONG and WRONG again Razor Steve, but what else is new!!



They have medication for bi-polar disorder.

 

Are you complementing the track you hate for good track prep or complaining?

 

Why do I care?


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Murphy
October 11, 2021 at 04:11:16 PM
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Posted By: RodinCanada on October 11 2021 at 03:42:09 PM

They have medication for bi-polar disorder.

 

Are you complementing the track you hate for good track prep or complaining?

 

Why do I care?



You'll get that answer when the Winged Speed personality takes over for his turn at the wheel.



WingedSpeed
October 11, 2021 at 06:46:11 PM
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Posted By: WingedSpeed on October 03 2021 at 08:01:33 AM

2 great nights of racing!  Just pray to god next weekend at another track in PA hosting the outlaws is just prepped correctly or it rains the mornings of the races.



Very good track at the Port Saturday night.  No half throttle around the bottom.  Again LD and the 69k cannot contend when it is anything other than a skating rink.




Murphy
October 11, 2021 at 08:10:44 PM
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Posted By: WingedSpeed on October 11 2021 at 06:46:11 PM

Very good track at the Port Saturday night.  No half throttle around the bottom.  Again LD and the 69k cannot contend when it is anything other than a skating rink.



Strawser! You're quoting yourself now, dude.



drw40
October 12, 2021 at 11:36:55 AM
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Posted By: WingedSpeed on October 11 2021 at 06:46:11 PM

Very good track at the Port Saturday night.  No half throttle around the bottom.  Again LD and the 69k cannot contend when it is anything other than a skating rink.



BINGO!

 



HoldenCaulfield
October 12, 2021 at 06:27:00 PM
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Posted By: Murphy on October 11 2021 at 03:25:12 PM

The first night at Port Royal looked like it had a lot of passing for the lead. The second night, not so much.



Exactly. Track didn't start getting racy until the end of the A main on Saturday. It was a time good, draw good and set sail on the cushion,  slot car horsepower track. Strawser would have loved it. 


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Murphy
October 12, 2021 at 06:40:47 PM
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Posted By: HoldenCaulfield on October 12 2021 at 06:27:00 PM

Exactly. Track didn't start getting racy until the end of the A main on Saturday. It was a time good, draw good and set sail on the cushion,  slot car horsepower track. Strawser would have loved it. 



As if Strawser went to the races. 



cubicdollars
October 17, 2021 at 06:46:24 PM
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Posse smoked also-rans 2nd night at Port. First night Madsen saved the sweep by a legendary show of blocking.


 

 

 

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