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JT22
May 15, 2023 at 09:44:23 AM
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Track was okay but they still need to do a little work to it to make it racey all night. Time Trials it was bottom/middle dominant then during heats and beginning of Feature it was top dominant. After about half way everyone migrated to the bottom. Still early in the season i hope they get the track right for Speedweek ,ASCoC and the Jack Gunn Memorial.




BStrawser26
May 15, 2023 at 01:46:49 PM
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Track was okay but they still need to do a little work to it to make it racey all night. Time Trials it was bottom/middle dominant then during heats and beginning of Feature it was top dominant. After about half way everyone migrated to the bottom. Still early in the season i hope they get the track right for Speedweek ,ASCoC and the Jack Gunn Memorial.



I was there and only have one statement to make. Who in the world let Razor Steve do the track prep for Selinsgrove so far this year.  It took forever to run TT. Track was wore out before TT's. I would give them a 1 out of 10 for track prep.


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HoldenCaulfield
May 15, 2023 at 04:27:08 PM
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Hate to agree with Strawser but yeah it could have used a little more water. I thought it was going to be a great track after hotlaps, nice cushion that was moving up nicely. I'm sure the persistent wind didn't help matters and when it changed direction and started blowing towards the stands, it made it pretty miserable to try and watch. Sprint feature was OK from what I could see. By the time the LM's got to run their feature, it was huggy pole around the bottom, left at first caution. I'd still take track that over a swamp that forms a huge curb halfway up the track like I saw way too many times at SG over the last few years. Somewhere inbetween would be ideal. 


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BStrawser26
May 17, 2023 at 10:57:25 AM
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Hate to agree with Strawser but yeah it could have used a little more water. I thought it was going to be a great track after hotlaps, nice cushion that was moving up nicely. I'm sure the persistent wind didn't help matters and when it changed direction and started blowing towards the stands, it made it pretty miserable to try and watch. Sprint feature was OK from what I could see. By the time the LM's got to run their feature, it was huggy pole around the bottom, left at first caution. I'd still take track that over a swamp that forms a huge curb halfway up the track like I saw way too many times at SG over the last few years. Somewhere inbetween would be ideal. 



Where in the world did you see a cushion on Sunday night?  There is not anything they can say about the track prep.  There were big patches of dry spots in turns 3 and 4. Sprint feature was very boring from start to finish.v it was like watching grass grow.  I would rather it be multiple grooves like many times over the last few years.  Not a one groove track.  That was the worst I have ever seen that place in years.


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HoldenCaulfield
May 17, 2023 at 05:44:19 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on May 17 2023 at 10:57:25 AM

Where in the world did you see a cushion on Sunday night?  There is not anything they can say about the track prep.  There were big patches of dry spots in turns 3 and 4. Sprint feature was very boring from start to finish.v it was like watching grass grow.  I would rather it be multiple grooves like many times over the last few years.  Not a one groove track.  That was the worst I have ever seen that place in years.



Must have only been watching Macri. Most of the fast cars were up on the fence where there was a cushion most of the night, but there cars were running top to bottom and everywhere inbetween. There was plenty of action from 2nd on back. 75 dropped to the bottom and was keeping Rico at bay until the last re-start. Only bad thing was the dust. I almost quit going to Selinsgrove the last few years. I got sick of seeing a swamp for a track with a 3 foot cushion that forms half-way up the track and never budges the whole night. It was slick and it was very dusty for sure and the track was shot for the LM's unfortunately, but at least the new track crew has it smooth, wide and multi-groove with cars up on the fence instead of slot cars around the middle of the track like it had been for far too long. The new team wants to see good racing instead of talking about lap times all night and that's a step in the right direction.


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BStrawser26
May 17, 2023 at 09:26:01 PM
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Must have only been watching Macri. Most of the fast cars were up on the fence where there was a cushion most of the night, but there cars were running top to bottom and everywhere inbetween. There was plenty of action from 2nd on back. 75 dropped to the bottom and was keeping Rico at bay until the last re-start. Only bad thing was the dust. I almost quit going to Selinsgrove the last few years. I got sick of seeing a swamp for a track with a 3 foot cushion that forms half-way up the track and never budges the whole night. It was slick and it was very dusty for sure and the track was shot for the LM's unfortunately, but at least the new track crew has it smooth, wide and multi-groove with cars up on the fence instead of slot cars around the middle of the track like it had been for far too long. The new team wants to see good racing instead of talking about lap times all night and that's a step in the right direction.



There was no action anywhere on the track during the feature.  Very boring.....worst feature I have witnessed at Selinsgrove.....maybe ever.  I have been going to Selinsgrove since the early 80's.  Yeah they were tight up against the fence.  That means nothing to me other than it was like watching grass grow.


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BStrawser26
May 18, 2023 at 08:32:42 AM
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He really didn't agree with me.  He thought the feature was ok.  He also would rather have a track like that over a much heavier track.....not me.  That was the worst prepared track I have seen in many....many years.

Yes, Wayne county Tuesday night was 100 percent better than what Selinsgrove had Sunday.


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bskarter4
May 18, 2023 at 11:57:08 AM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on May 18 2023 at 08:32:42 AM

He really didn't agree with me.  He thought the feature was ok.  He also would rather have a track like that over a much heavier track.....not me.  That was the worst prepared track I have seen in many....many years.

Yes, Wayne county Tuesday night was 100 percent better than what Selinsgrove had Sunday.



I'm sure Stephanie, Ethan & Reece would welcome your infinite wisdom on the subject of track preperation. Please make sure you reach out to them directly to offer your extremely vast knowlege base on a weekly basis so we can see the epitome of speed and thrills that no doubt only you can offer to us undeserving peasants.



fiXXXer
May 22, 2023 at 10:21:41 PM
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The track definitely needs to be better. Way too dirty early in the night. Time trials were basically a waste of time because the track seemingly fell off significantly with every car that timed. They're new at this though so obviously it's gonna take some time for them to really get in the groove of things. This shit isn't easy. But for sure, the track was definitely too dry at both the 410 shows. They brought it around later in the program so all wasn't lost but it would be nice to see it be better early in the night than it has been. Also, when you advertise that gates open at 5:00. It's inexcusable to be almost 30 minutes late opening them. Again, this is just constructive criticism. They've only been doing this for a couple months. I'd say all in all, they're doing well for being totally new at it. 




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BStrawser26
May 23, 2023 at 02:24:45 PM
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I'm sure Stephanie, Ethan & Reece would welcome your infinite wisdom on the subject of track preperation. Please make sure you reach out to them directly to offer your extremely vast knowlege base on a weekly basis so we can see the epitome of speed and thrills that no doubt only you can offer to us undeserving peasants.



They probably already lost me....I work too hard for my money for them to have a track like that.  It is not about speed it is about trying to have the track change through out the night.  The track this night didn't change a bit.  Horrible just horrible!!


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HoldenCaulfield
May 23, 2023 at 08:27:59 PM
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LOL Yeah the way it's been more often than not for 410 shows the past 5 years. Then instead of talking about the racing on the track during the feature(because there is none), the announcer is bragging about lap times. Yeehaw! Then the people bitch about them not drawing a full field for 26G to win. Well duh, drivers want a track they can race on

In all seriousness, yes the track could have used a little more water but they aren't that far off. At least it was wide and smooth and the drivers could use the whole track instead of just the bottom half. Don't forget the factor that the constant wind played as well.

 


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LOL Yeah the way it's been more often than not for 410 shows the past 5 years. Then instead of talking about the racing on the track during the feature(because there is none), the announcer is bragging about lap times. Yeehaw! Then the people bitch about them not drawing a full field for 26G to win. Well duh, drivers want a track they can race on

In all seriousness, yes the track could have used a little more water but they aren't that far off. At least it was wide and smooth and the drivers could use the whole track instead of just the bottom half. Don't forget the factor that the constant wind played as well.

 



That's kinda how I feel. They missed it but not by a ton. As I said, they're new at this. It's expected for there to be some growing pains along the way and some regrettable decisions that seemed like a good idea at the time but turn out to be a blunder. Its part of the learning process and it probably won't happen overnight. Trial and error is a big part of track prep. Even a track prep Jedi like Fred Putney misses it once in awhile. Weather is a major determining factor and both 410 shows they had sunny and breezy conditions which is hell on any track surface. Guys who have been doing it awhile can typically compensate and but even they guess wrong sometimes. That said, they got it races for the feature both times so they're already figuring it out. 



longtimefan
May 24, 2023 at 07:50:51 AM
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They are new at it. In their defence it was sunny and windy with low humity both days. It was still May, but I do think strating later in the summer months helps but that is hard to do on Sunday evening. Most don't remember this but there was a time whem 8:00 was the start time for most tracks but they only ran two divisions.                                                                                                                      



BStrawser26
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They are new at it. In their defence it was sunny and windy with low humity both days. It was still May, but I do think strating later in the summer months helps but that is hard to do on Sunday evening. Most don't remember this but there was a time whem 8:00 was the start time for most tracks but they only ran two divisions.                                                                                                                      



There is NOT an excuse for the way that track was....when you have big dry spots in turns 3 and 4.  That is horrible!  That is only one of the many reasons I like Williamsgrove.  They have a later start time.   Last night at Williamsgrove they had a cushion and they could run the low groove.......see Lance Dewease.  There is not another half mile in PA this year that has a top and a bottom like the Williamsgrove.  I loved seeing an actual cushion that some drivers were running against and not hitting the wall with there right rear because there isn't a bottom groove......see Port and Selinsgrove.  If you are not around the rim you are not going to win at either place......unless it rubbers up like Selinsgrove did with there first race this year.


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At Selinsgrove the speeds should be in the very low 16 second bracket early in the night in order to have a great feature.

At Port the Speeds should be in the mid to high 15 second bracket early in the night in order to have a great feature.

At williamsgrove the speeds should be high 16 to very low 17 second bracket early in the night in order to have a great feature.

Anything slower than these speeds early in the night and the feature will be next thing to horrible.  That is not an opinion....that is a FACT!


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longtimefan
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on May 23 2023 at 02:24:45 PM

They probably already lost me....I work too hard for my money for them to have a track like that.  It is not about speed it is about trying to have the track change through out the night.  The track this night didn't change a bit.  Horrible just horrible!!



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BStrawser26
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No bump here...what part of probably - don't you understand? 

I will stand by what I said and have said about the asphalt track in Juniata county.


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Asphalt does not belong on a race track.  It is used on roads to get there, parking lots and perhaps in the pits to keep the dust down!

I have no problem waiting for track grooming as long as they make a very good racing surface.



Parnelli1970
November 23, 2023 at 04:07:17 PM
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Posted By: PeteP on November 23 2023 at 03:40:16 PM

Asphalt does not belong on a race track.  It is used on roads to get there, parking lots and perhaps in the pits to keep the dust down!

I have no problem waiting for track grooming as long as they make a very good racing surface.



Just so you know get ready for a bunch of asinine comments from the guy in here who thinks people really care what he thinks but in reality NO ONE gives two shits about his boring BS.





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