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beezr2002
July 15, 2022 at 09:43:15 PM
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Lincion speedway twitter states hoosier will only supply 24 tires Sat. night. 410's only division racing. Will scott and jerry knock five bucks off of admission, maybe a discount to an upcoming monster jam event? hoosier daddy now track promoters?




linbob
July 17, 2022 at 02:22:40 PM
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Posted By: beezr2002 on July 15 2022 at 09:43:15 PM

Lincion speedway twitter states hoosier will only supply 24 tires Sat. night. 410's only division racing. Will scott and jerry knock five bucks off of admission, maybe a discount to an upcoming monster jam event? hoosier daddy now track promoters?



Would it not br better if all classes of sprint cars ran the same tire s.. It would make things better for Hoosiers as they would only have to make one set of tires.  Wy does ASCS have a different tire rule on Hoosiers than WOO.  Makes no sence.  Two tracks 100 miles apart had different tire rule with Hoosiers.  Think of a tire dealer just having to worry about 1 set of tires for all classes.  Hoosier can not supply Hoosier tires for 360 for 2 months.  Dealers get 7 tires for 30 cars.  Several dealers have said this.  The tires are $315 but they do not have any.  



HoldenCaulfield
July 17, 2022 at 03:23:03 PM
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Does American Racer still make sprint car tires? If so, are they having the same issues? If Hoosier can't meet demand, I don't understand why the tracks and series don't open up the tire rule to run what you brung. The show must go on.


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Murphy
July 17, 2022 at 03:50:15 PM
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Posted By: HoldenCaulfield on July 17 2022 at 03:23:03 PM

Does American Racer still make sprint car tires? If so, are they having the same issues? If Hoosier can't meet demand, I don't understand why the tracks and series don't open up the tire rule to run what you brung. The show must go on.



     They are probably having the same issues getting ahold of raw materials.



Charles Nungester
July 17, 2022 at 04:03:27 PM
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This message was edited on July 17, 2022 at 04:04:28 PM by Charles Nungester

Supply chain shortages are going to kill the supply chain itself.  Already very hard for racers to get tires and motor parts.   Now there is a Semi Truck parts shortage compounding the problem.  Also a pending Railroad strike that has been delayed for now.



RodinCanada
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July 17, 2022 at 04:24:55 PM
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Maybe it's time to let teams build their car instead of buy it to assemble. Imagine the fun.... 1960 throwback.


Even though I may not know you, I 
care what most of you think!


Murphy
July 17, 2022 at 08:49:30 PM
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Posted By: RodinCanada on July 17 2022 at 04:24:55 PM

Maybe it's time to let teams build their car instead of buy it to assemble. Imagine the fun.... 1960 throwback.



What type of tires do you propose those teams build?



Charles Nungester
July 17, 2022 at 09:50:31 PM
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Posted By: Murphy on July 17 2022 at 08:49:30 PM

What type of tires do you propose those teams build?



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RodinCanada
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July 17, 2022 at 10:10:52 PM
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Posted By: Murphy on July 17 2022 at 08:49:30 PM

What type of tires do you propose those teams build?



Oh my,! I didnt realize I needed a million words to eliminate all required thinking. Go back to the 60 if you can. They didnt build tires, they used the best option they had behind the barn. Do you also realize they are not actually building the pipe for roll cages or rims for tires or cylinder heads for engines. They used avaialble items and modified them to suit their liking. Maybe they made their own fuel.

 

If you dont get the point now please just ignore my comment because I suspect I dont speak American well enough for a racing forum. Perhaps I could get a job in your favorite credit card customer service department.


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linbob
July 18, 2022 at 02:38:02 AM
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Posted By: Murphy on July 17 2022 at 03:50:15 PM

     They are probably having the same issues getting ahold of raw materials.



This is two many efggs in 1 basket.  Hooser went to every organization and track to get a tire deal.  They gave money for point funds.  As we know they just raise the price of tires to pay for point fund money.   So the racers pay for the point fund.  I think they have to have tires for nationals so they are not shipping out tires now to build up supply.  Who Knows for sure?   The WOO seem to get tires.



sw1911
July 18, 2022 at 07:27:36 AM
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Posted By: linbob on July 17 2022 at 02:22:40 PM

Would it not br better if all classes of sprint cars ran the same tire s.. It would make things better for Hoosiers as they would only have to make one set of tires.  Wy does ASCS have a different tire rule on Hoosiers than WOO.  Makes no sence.  Two tracks 100 miles apart had different tire rule with Hoosiers.  Think of a tire dealer just having to worry about 1 set of tires for all classes.  Hoosier can not supply Hoosier tires for 360 for 2 months.  Dealers get 7 tires for 30 cars.  Several dealers have said this.  The tires are $315 but they do not have any.  



Eliminate the Hoosier monopoly and all these problems go away. Track should set the tire specs and then let any tire manufacturer cpmpete for the business. 


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HardTopDave
July 18, 2022 at 08:45:09 AM
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Posted By: Charles Nungester on July 17 2022 at 04:03:27 PM

Supply chain shortages are going to kill the supply chain itself.  Already very hard for racers to get tires and motor parts.   Now there is a Semi Truck parts shortage compounding the problem.  Also a pending Railroad strike that has been delayed for now.



Not to mention that War thing...




beezr2002
July 18, 2022 at 08:55:03 AM
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I'm sitting on a Hossier D15 RR micro tire from over 20 years ago, never used still has the nipples. I think I'm going hang on to it a while longer, Include it in my retirement portfolio.



StanM
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July 18, 2022 at 09:21:45 AM
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Posted By: Charles Nungester on July 17 2022 at 04:03:27 PM

Supply chain shortages are going to kill the supply chain itself.  Already very hard for racers to get tires and motor parts.   Now there is a Semi Truck parts shortage compounding the problem.  Also a pending Railroad strike that has been delayed for now.



The railroads will be ordered back to work within a short time after striking.  They will appoint a presidential emergency board to get involved in the settlement.  We went on strike one time in the 90's and we're back to work the same day.


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Murphy
July 18, 2022 at 11:43:36 AM
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Posted By: RodinCanada on July 17 2022 at 10:10:52 PM

Oh my,! I didnt realize I needed a million words to eliminate all required thinking. Go back to the 60 if you can. They didnt build tires, they used the best option they had behind the barn. Do you also realize they are not actually building the pipe for roll cages or rims for tires or cylinder heads for engines. They used avaialble items and modified them to suit their liking. Maybe they made their own fuel.

 

If you dont get the point now please just ignore my comment because I suspect I dont speak American well enough for a racing forum. Perhaps I could get a job in your favorite credit card customer service department.



I can only read what you write. 

You can't go back to 1960. Shall I get off your lawn now?




Murphy
July 18, 2022 at 11:44:55 AM
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Posted By: sw1911 on July 18 2022 at 07:27:36 AM

Eliminate the Hoosier monopoly and all these problems go away. Track should set the tire specs and then let any tire manufacturer cpmpete for the business. 



It might eliminate a lot of problems, but it won't make race tires available any faster.



revjimk
July 18, 2022 at 12:15:20 PM
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Posted By: RodinCanada on July 17 2022 at 10:10:52 PM

Oh my,! I didnt realize I needed a million words to eliminate all required thinking. Go back to the 60 if you can. They didnt build tires, they used the best option they had behind the barn. Do you also realize they are not actually building the pipe for roll cages or rims for tires or cylinder heads for engines. They used avaialble items and modified them to suit their liking. Maybe they made their own fuel.

 

If you dont get the point now please just ignore my comment because I suspect I dont speak American well enough for a racing forum. Perhaps I could get a job in your favorite credit card customer service department.



Good explanation & sarcastic comeback!

I didn't quite get your original post either.... now I do

& trust me, you would be a GREAT improvement over all those "credit card customer service department"

bozos! wink



Michael_N
July 18, 2022 at 06:12:35 PM
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MoOpenwheel
July 19, 2022 at 08:00:08 AM
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I think it would be interesting to see some details of why there is a shortage. What exactly is different today from three years ago. How many tires are they making a week compared to then. Whats the difference in number of employees and hours of production work per week. How long did it used to be between manufacture date and sale to end user. Then follow the raw material supply chain back to where it originates and see exactly what's happening there. I don't expect to see details like this but it might be eye opening. 





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