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Topic: Top Wing-Need to keep it on car in a accident
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September 23, 2014 at
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Posted By: Stealth87 on September 23 2014 at 10:32:34 AM
More needs to be done besides just what is around race tracks and what kind of barriers are being used. I have personally seen some equipment flaws that are very worrisome this year. Balog had welds on a front axle break at Superior. At Plymouth, Wayne Wodjeski had something very similar happen but not break all the way through. Luckily they caught it before he went back out on the track again. I am seeing car equipment start to fail more than track safety equipment. The fact is, the insurance complanies deem these facilities safe to race at, otherwise the series' would not be running at them. Does something need to be addresses with concrete barriers? Absolutely. But that has not stopped others from strapping in and going out to race. 25+ drivers will strap into their cars this weekend with the IRA and go do battle. It takes a very special breed to strap into these things, get out there, go fast and take the kinds of risks they do. I am sure safety barriers will be something that is addresses this offseason. But the simple fact is, there will never be a 100% completely safe race track to run on, ever.
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I understand what you are saying, and I agree. Policing the facilities can only accomplish so much and is only as safe as what the guys we are trying to protect, police themselves. If it isn't safe, it shouldn't be on the track...PERIOD.... But you can at least TRY to implement safety features to try and drive that number you quoted (never be100%) a little higher. It is very sad that we even have to talk about this but in this day and age, if it saves one driver, all the talk and rederick is worth it.
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September 23, 2014 at
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September 23, 2014 at
01:20:46 PM by Sprintracer29
Sprint cars are not vanilla, they are one of rawest forms of race cars in all of motor sports, they are a beast. Any driver that straps into a car that the frame is narrower than your average easy chair is highly respected among their peers because of the ever apparent danger that will always exist. Most drivers are aware of and accept it before we strap in and the ones that don't should educate themselves on the type of vehicle they are racing. That being said most drivers and car owners take safety very serious and implment as many safety components that they have at their disposal And as such sprints are a lot safer than decades past. Chassis manufactures have at their disposal the ability to not only make cars faster but also safer. Numerous sled test and real world examples have shown that the frames that we all run have major safety flaws in a design that has not changed much in 25-30 years. I am not an advocate for changing the core essence of what a sprint car looks like or is but but the engineering technology is there. I made the changes to my car in 2001 and now would like to do more to the frame to improve my own safety. Any vehicle that has less than a 2 pound per horsepower ratio can only be so safe from injury because at some point the human body will become the weakest part in the equation and we all know how hard "we"are to upgrade. I truely believe we have to look at the core of a sprint car chassis to improve all of our safety because if I had a choice here in central Fla. At least half the races we run here would be without any WINGS. A wing is an aero device not a safety device.
I love sprint car racing and would have drove a topless car in the early days fully accepting the RISK
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September 25, 2014 at
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Did any chassis manufacturer change their design after that video of the crash test showed how weak the rollcage was in the case of a blunt strike from above?
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September 26, 2014 at
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Sprintracer29 - good post. I too question how the basic frame design has not changed in so many years. I have no doubt the materials and the welds are better. After seeing some youtube videos of the crash testing done on sprint cars, I would think some design changes might be in order, hopefully not changing the look of sprinter too much. But if that is what is necessary, I would support it.
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September 26, 2014 at
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We really need to come up with a tether system to stop a few from posting on Hoseheads..
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September 26, 2014 at
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Wing or non wing the racers need to look at the crush zone between to top of the drivers head and the roll cage. As a former car owner ALL the cars I bought we the Maxium big boy chassis. This gave all but one driver I had drive for me more than 6" of crush zone above the drivers head.
Some of the rule books with the different clubs state 3" clearence this is not enforced. Most track officials do not even think about that. We all have seen many drivers both wing and non-wing, midgets etc with the drivers helment above the cage.
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