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ASCS Gulf South will be racing Friday night at Beaumont Tx, Saturday night at Willis Tx and Sunday night at Lufkin Tx. All three nights will pay $2000. to win and $300 to start the A. All non qualifiers will receive $100. There is also a bonus put up by Griffith Trucking of $500 for a 2 night winner and $1000 if someone can sweep the weekend.

The extra money is great, except for luring more of the cherry pickers from the National tour. It would be refreshing to see the Gulf South competitors get more wins and money in their pockets rather than the 41, 9, etc. Those guys should stay away - how about a limit on how many regional races a year they can run (2). There have been rumblings in the pits about this. There are some unhappy campers/racers and it would suck if the car count begins to suffer because of the cherry picking.

o.k. here is my .02, that is a tough deal. I can see both sides. Seems to me a decision by Emmett/Tommie is due. The 41 and the 9 race for a living, no National races, they will serch for a place to race. Maybe just maybe the regional guys need to step their programs up.

Knew the "step up their game" argument was coming, but the same could be said for the cherry pickers. Why don't they step their games up and go race with the woo, All Stars, posse, etc instead of ....... cherry picking? The GS guys are not racing for a living, they are running as hard as they can each race weekend. It leaves a sour taste when these guys come down. Not just the GS region, any region. They're taking money out of the weekend racer's pockets that may need that money to make it to the next race. There's no question how fast those guys are, so they should go pick on other "fast" cars. Leave the regions to the regional racers. Just don't want to see the regions fall off because of this.

Will these races be on the Texas Dirt Network?

you have a few valid points, HOWEVER stepping up for them would mean BUYING A 410!!!!! in those series you mentioned. Ultimately it falls squarely on the shoulders of the ASCS(Emmett/Tommie) to schedule more National races. There is no easy solution. I believe one thing that we need to keep in mind, is the FANS. They pay the purses and they certianly enjoy seeing some Top teams showup. Discuss

There should be some grumbling as it would appear the schedule is around one driver and it happens his parents run the series. This has been going on for some time. The pay is all on top 8th on back pays the same 300.00. 100.00 to non qualifers . ASCS has a lot of issues nad they need to try and help the week end racers , this is how the series was started . There are some rumblings in other psrts of Texas about starting a series with much better pay outs and actually checking and enforcing rules including safety

now here is an fyi for you. JJ does not own a 410, Don Ott suppplied a 410 for Knoxville ONLY

whoa. Dejavu.

Tommie and Emmett could probably schedule all of the $2000/win $300/start no tow money races that professional drivers/owners like Jason Johnson could handle. Maybe more.

Of course, if the promoter/track operator is gonna get the commodity for less, where's their incentive to lure the "professionals". One thing about most professionals in any sport - they know what they're worth.

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My thinking on the subject is this. It is hard for the tracks to put up a high dollar purse if there is nobody there to watch. The bottom line is that JJ and GW and others help put butts in the seats. The promoters are actually getting a good deal by putting some quality on the track for much less than a National tour race, even though its not near as deep with talent. At the end of the day if you limit a "National tour" driver to X number of regional races your gonna hurt the Regional series as a product. Plus I just don't think your gonna find ANY racer that is going to cry and complain about someone coming in and beating them. A TRUE racer wants to race against the best! If you cant beat the best you dont deserve the bigger payday. Just run your local show and hope everyone else breaks down.

Haha. I agree with part of what you say because it proves the point of what I was saying - why would any promoter be inclined to book a professional show when he can get the show for free. Not sure what the difference is between a true racer and an un-true racer, but if a true racer is someone who doesn't have a grasp on the value of himself and what he's doing, then I see your point.

That $2000/win $300/start means a whole lot more to an un-professional racer than it does to the professional. Or not.

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I think its sad that guys like you get on here and cry about one of the best sprint car drivers in the country coming down and racing with the GS series when he gets the chance. Im from Oklahoma and would give anything to still have tracks within 100 miles of each other that holds ASCS sanctioned races on a regular basis. We get the Sooner series every great once in a while but not like it use to be and their hasn't been a single National race in the state this season. But the Gulf South runs almost 30 races a year and there is several National series races in Texas as well and they all have excellent car counts and from reading highlights and catching some of the action on youtube, the racing seams to be just as exciting. I think its great that JJ chooses to run regional races when the National tour is off. I know I always enjoyed it when he runs the Sooner series sometimes. We don't get to see alot of the big guys much around here any more and anytime we do get the opportunity to see them its always exciting. And the whole comment about the big guys being pricks with the exception of GW... correct me if im wrong but it wasn't but a few years ago (back when he was on top), GW wouldn't pull into a race that didn't pay less than $2000 to win, and hearing him in interview and at seminars, GW is one of the biggest pricks in racing. From the way i see it, when National tour guys show up at Regional shows, that just means more cars and more racing to watch. So enjoy it while you still have it because in this day and age nothing is guaranteed!!

oh no, JJ won second night in a row. Let the whinning begin, AGAIN!!!!!!!!, lol

Has any ever payed attention to how much faster JJ is to any of the gulf south region racers.

You cant tell me he's got that much better equipment then any other car.

Here is a question , we all know JJ has family that runs the gulf south region , how well does his car get inspected compared to the rest of the field, and if his car did fail inspection would it be made public or would the gulf south keep it quiet and just be thankful that he there that night racing with them.

Jason Johnson does not have any better equipment than many of the drivers he competes against in these Gulf South races. Many of them have new cars with Wesmar power or equivalent. The difference is talent and experience. He has raced many of these tracks for years as well. He works as hard to compete the in the regional races as he does in the National races. Odd how no Sooner Region competitors whined when he dusted them off at Outlaw in May and lapped up to 5th or 6th place. The fact is that I have seen several of them get the best of Jason in Sooner Region races in the last few years and you didnt hear Jason complain about it.

I cant imagine any racer getting on a forum and whining and complaining and accusing a driver of cheating like this. If for the sake of argument that its a race driver or drivers, maybe if they didnt have such poor attitudes and didnt assume they were running for second or third place money when they pull into the race track, they would have more success in some of these Gulf South races. The fact is that the Gulf South racers are quality guys with a lot of talent in my opinion and I have seen several of them (Skip Wilson, Brandon Berryman, Tommy Bryant and more do great in National races. The fans of the Gulf South region are fortunate to have all of these races and drivers to watch on a regular basis. The Oklahoma area has seen quality sprint cars dry up in the last couple of years and with our economy still being pretty much in the tank, we should be glad for what still have.

I have personally attened many Gulf South events that Jason has won, and yes he is teched just like EVERONE else.

If you have a problem, why not contact Keith Johnson(series drector) or better yet call Tommie Estes(ASCS).

BTW, the Gulf South is one of the best operated regions. Ask Emmett Hahn

If it were not for Keith, Craig and Debra, i doubt seriously there would be a series for the FANS and RACERS to enjoy.

If you are gonna accuse someone of cheating, you need to be able to prove it

I'm guesssing you will choose to hide behind your keyboard and take cheap shots at competitors and officals you don't like.

true dat! and take a look a past posts... what a hater!

Suck it up, tough it out, be the best you can

Jason Johnson and the entire #41 race team can bring their "illegal" car up here and race with us in the ASCS Midwest region anytime they like. We, and the fans, would welcome them with open arms, if you all don't want him down there...(LOL)...CZ (ASCS Midwest Regional Director)

Jason started out from scratch the beginning of this season and has done a phenomonal job this yr.