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Wheelied1029
August 15, 2010 at 08:33:49 PM
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I don't know what age you consider kids, but these were not kids and they were no boyscouts.



butchknouse37
August 15, 2010 at 08:44:48 PM
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What where the kids SUPPOSED to do? Sit on their asses all night and wait until the mob of drunks finally decided they felt like leaving?



buzz rightrear
August 15, 2010 at 09:01:25 PM
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This message was edited on August 15, 2010 at 09:03:51 PM by buzz rightrear
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Posted By: butchknouse37 on August 15 2010 at 08:44:48 PM

What where the kids SUPPOSED to do? Sit on their asses all night and wait until the mob of drunks finally decided they felt like leaving?



no one said they needed to sit on their asses. the crew leader could have gone to security and said they had an issue and they needed some help to address it. again. the crowd was not the responcibility of the cleaning crew. the cleaning crew has no business interacting with the crowd at all besides asking them politely to move. wheelied, as far as i can tell, says there was no warning and they were not asked to move. but lets just say the crew leader asked the crowd politely to move and the crowd didn't cooperate. it was then not the job of the crew to take on the crowd. as i said, the crew leader could have gone to security and asked for their help with the crowd. if security did nothing, then the crew should have just left the people alone. it was not their job to instigate a confrontation. if you are at a restaurant and you haven't finished eating, but the restaurant is closing and they need to bus your table, does the bus boy just come and start clearing your table? use some common sense. the crew should have not put themslves in a position to cause the crowd to react the way they did. the crowd is the customer. the crew is the help. the customer is always right.

let me put it another way. racing rules: when you go into someone elses pits and an altercation breaks out, it is your fault. no matter what.


to indy and beyond!!


pat
August 15, 2010 at 09:06:14 PM
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Saturday night we were in the pits for twenty minutes, left the track under the flagstand and got blasted by dirt and beer bottles, i can see why someone would get upset



msu12
August 15, 2010 at 09:56:30 PM
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Posted By: origopnwhlr on August 15 2010 at 07:30:18 PM

Is TK racing at Husets tonight?

thanx

 

leon



Sorry, if you want to get an answer on this thread then you must provide full name, copy of birth certificate, social security number, and supply pictures of your children and names of their high schools.



origopnwhlr
August 15, 2010 at 10:18:02 PM
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copy of birth certificate

I was born in Arkansas and at that time they just wrote it on the side of our house trailer. Wink


TSA...It's not a GROPE...it's a Freedom Pat!


buzz rightrear
August 15, 2010 at 10:20:25 PM
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This message was edited on August 15, 2010 at 10:22:03 PM by buzz rightrear
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Posted By: msu12 on August 15 2010 at 09:56:30 PM

Sorry, if you want to get an answer on this thread then you must provide full name, copy of birth certificate, social security number, and supply pictures of your children and names of their high schools.



sorry, all i have is an expiered mexican library card that i used to register to vote. will that do?


to indy and beyond!!

msu12
August 15, 2010 at 10:25:34 PM
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Posted By: buzz rightrear on August 15 2010 at 10:20:25 PM

sorry, all i have is an expiered mexican library card that i used to register to vote. will that do?



lol.... I'm just the messenger, not the judge! Smile



buzz rightrear
August 15, 2010 at 10:27:49 PM
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Posted By: msu12 on August 15 2010 at 10:25:34 PM

lol.... I'm just the messenger, not the judge! Smile



with the judges we have these days i wouldn't admit to being one either.


to indy and beyond!!


buzz rightrear
August 15, 2010 at 10:30:28 PM
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This message was edited on August 15, 2010 at 10:31:36 PM by buzz rightrear
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Posted By: origopnwhlr on August 15 2010 at 10:18:02 PM

copy of birth certificate

I was born in Arkansas and at that time they just wrote it on the side of our house trailer. Wink



when did they learn to write in arkansas? Smile


to indy and beyond!!

msu12
August 15, 2010 at 10:32:04 PM
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Posted By: buzz rightrear on August 15 2010 at 10:27:49 PM

with the judges we have these days i wouldn't admit to being one either.



I'm just excited this thread is still alive! A good friend of mine was hoping this one would last a few days... glad he got his wish! wink

Touch gloves and come back out swingin'!



origopnwhlr
August 15, 2010 at 10:55:30 PM
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They didn't write.

They chipped a symbol on the side of the trailer. Sorta looked like a snake...with swollen eyes! Wink


TSA...It's not a GROPE...it's a Freedom Pat!


buzz rightrear
August 15, 2010 at 11:01:16 PM
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Posted By: origopnwhlr on August 15 2010 at 10:55:30 PM

They didn't write.

They chipped a symbol on the side of the trailer. Sorta looked like a snake...with swollen eyes! Wink



defacing a trailer in arkansas is a capital offence!


to indy and beyond!!

BigRightRear
August 16, 2010 at 08:36:09 AM
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any idea what the blood alcohol level was of the kids who were operating the dirt blowers?


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

duffyjr73
August 16, 2010 at 08:54:26 AM
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Posted By: butchknouse37 on August 15 2010 at 08:44:48 PM

What where the kids SUPPOSED to do? Sit on their asses all night and wait until the mob of drunks finally decided they felt like leaving?



YES, thye are employees and the people drinking and having fun are customers,, where the hell do you work?




BigRightRear
August 16, 2010 at 10:27:12 AM
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it really is a shame that drunk adults have to rely on disrepectful kids to clean up after their miserable @sses...when they normally have their mom do it for them.


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

Knoxgasman
August 17, 2010 at 03:15:30 PM
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This message was edited on August 17, 2010 at 03:47:56 PM by Knoxgasman
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Posted By: Johns Racing Photos on August 15 2010 at 05:09:15 PM

race88 - I see comprehension isn't at the top of your list of accomplishments. I said people who will call out someone and not post their name. If the shoe fits wear it proudly. Otherwise tell us all who you are. The candy asses that spout crap from the safety/annonimity of their key board are cowards plain and simple.

Thanks Steve - Not only does it tell who I am but where to find my and/or what number to call.

As for the dialog at the end. Did you read any of the supposed child's stories he typed? He said they told the super there were people there and the super said keep going. What part of that do you not understand? Forgot about your comprehension issues.

I will say it again. The problem was the guy that told them to press on. And.... Had the crowd been out of line as stated... Throwing beer cans, kicking sandals, almost trying to hit someone, especially a juvenile, security and police would have been all over that. They were not. They parents would have done something about it as well. They did not. I still stay the story is B.S. as dramatized in the OP.

So what do you think happened when the children told their supposed boss that there were people in the way and the boss said keep going they will move? Or did they just start blowing shit in the direction of the crowd believing that the boss was right? When it turned out he wasn't did they go get him or take it upon themselves to engage the crowd? Do you honestly believe the "children" blew crap in the direction of the crowd and then just sat there while the crowd (not just Tim) threw the crap back at them and verbally abused them by cursing?

As long as we are calling them kids, children etc. Could you tell me how old these supposed kids that could "hold their own" with anyone were? You know the ones that have never heard or used a curse word in their life, especially not that night, and have never had a confrontation with anyone before, especially not that night? Again, where was the adult supervision.




The Renta cops, all who were there, did nothing but sit on their golf carts. Maybe they feared a riot, who knows. Fact is they did nothing.

We are all local highschoolers. Not saying we havent been confronted by someone before or heard a curse word. I'm saying that ,probably due to alcohol, TK acted the way he did to highschoolers.



Knoxgasman
August 17, 2010 at 03:21:24 PM
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Posted By: racin buddy on August 13 2010 at 11:25:49 PM

let me see. did you do anything to try to defend the kids? did you do anything to try to diffuse tk? did you stand up to tk and try to tell him off in person, or did you just run to your computor?

that's what i thought.



I was one of them. TK is probably about twice as old as me and was drunk. I didnt want things to get worse.




Knoxgasman
August 17, 2010 at 03:31:51 PM
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Posted By: Millsvideo on August 14 2010 at 01:47:38 PM
I have said this before, and I will say it again...

This kind of crap really pisses me off. Some anonymous person comes on the Internet and starts slandering someone who is well known in the industry, casting aspersions and trying to push his opinion off as fact, all while hiding behind his little computer. Nothing more cowardly than that...My question is, who is the real "Knoxgasman"? But, it's a rhetorical question because, I know exactly who you are...

You are nothing more than an Internet paper tiger. This example of cowardice is more heinous than usual because you originally portray yourself as an innocent bystander, then later admit to being one of the people involved by saying, "beer cans were being thrown at me" and "What did we do wrong?"

I will tell you what you did wrong, you anonymous fester...You came on the Internet and whined like a 4 year old girl about something that you should have taken care of like a man the previous night. You also came on here and lied. You lied about your involvement. And you made an accusation that Tim almost "struck" someone...Well actually, at first you said "I thought he was even going to strike one of them", then you changed it later to, "he about struck one". I'm betting Tim threatened to shut that pie hole of yours after you ran it like a b@$&h. And in front of these so-called, "high school kids", no less. Besides, what are "high school kids" doing up at 2am? On a school night, no less. Sure, some schools aren't open just yet, but whatever. Teenagers should not be out at 2am regardless. Especially being up after hours in a crazy, unpredictable atmosphere as the one that the Knoxville Nationals presents. I'm betting he was simply trying to teach you some manners for running your yap.

And you wanna know why the cops didn't do something about Tim? Because you and your crew were causing a disturbance that did not need to occur. EVERYONE knows that the cops at Knoxville are just looking for a reason to throw someone in jail, and the fact is, if Tim had done ANYTHING remotely like what you said, he would have gone to jail for it (and booked for the flimsy, catch-all law of "public intox"). Alas, they "threatened to put the clean up crew boss in jail" instead. Which was probably you. The cops allegedly "ignored the kids safety" probably because they never were in any actual danger. You may have been. For acting like a punk***b@$%h. So, you are here to lie and manipulate public perception all because you are angry that you got called out and you are nothing more than a coward. That is what cowards do.

You speak of Tim's alleged "classless act", but yours is even more classless, because it's an outright attempt to sully someone's reputation to the world on an Internet message board. This is a total b@#$h move. No self-respecting man would do this. I pity you. You sir, are a liar, a coward, and yes, a b@#$h. You should be ashamed of yourself. I'm ashamed of you, and the fact that you are a member of my species. You undermine all mankind when you act like this. Thanks for that, janitor boy...

I've said enough. Go ahead, don't be a fan of Tim's any longer. Who'd want your fandom anyway? That is all, garbage man...

"I'm trugh wid dis guy" - Joe Pesci, 'My Cousin Vinny'

(The Real) Dean Mills



Your are as classless as TK was when he was drunk. I was one of the blowers, also a highschooler. Who do you think picks up after you for four days? Highschoolers who work for minimum age.

Wow you can talk like that to a highschooler. Shows your maturity.



HoldenCaulfield
August 17, 2010 at 03:32:05 PM
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Posted By: buzz rightrear on August 15 2010 at 08:12:05 PM

twist it any way you want. the thing is we have established that someone told kids that were in their command to antagonize people by assaulting them with air blowers. that resulted in retribution by the people. you keep bring the actions of adults towards kids into the discussion. what about the action of an adult who told kids it was ok to use the air blowers to try to disperse the crowd? was crowd disbursement part of the job of the cleaning crew? if i am at my desk and the cleaning crew comes in, and i say go clean over there because i'm staying at my desk, should the cleaning crew proceed to move me from my desk with their vacum? use your freaking head. it was not the job of the cleaning crew to do anything but clean. it was not up to them to police or evacuate the areas in order to clean them. everyone has already said that sure, maybe the crowd should have just let the crew go. who knows? so then the crew took on something that was not their job. crowd disbursement. under the circumstances the crew should have just stuck to their job. eveything that seems to have happened after the crew took on the job of crowd disbursement seems to have been caused by the antagonism of being assaulted with air blowers. is that what the adult or the leader of the crew was teaching? that if you deviate from your duty to antagonise people you may get mobed and cussed at, and have stuff thrown at you? lesson learned.



Oh I see, so the people who are hard at work(partying) should stay put and the cleaning crew should wait until they're done. Hmmm, if partying is a job, where can apply? LOL I think if I was partying it up and I saw that a cleaning crew was about to blow a shitload of trash in my direction that mybe, just perhaps it mioght be time to move elswhere so the cleaning crew can do their job and I don't get pelted with shit. Sheesh, talk about using common sense.


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