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December 15, 2008 at 09:41:49 PM
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Posted By: brian26 on December 15 2008 at 10:50:57 AM

Anybody know anything about this car? It has a Nance style cage, converted to 4 bar. There is a sticker on the side that says "New Paris, Iowa".

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I think in the mid 70's there was some tracks in northern missouri and southern Iowa that ran the 100" 6 modifieds. There was a Jim Carver #62 from Trenton, MO that came and ran Enid in October a couple of times.

I don't believe there is a New Paris IA just a Paris IA? There is a New Paris, IN and a New Paris, OH that I know of.

D & S Services 549 Eaton Fort Nesbit Rd, New Paris, OH, 45347 937-437-2681. You know that area is a hot bed of racing.

Posted from Brookings SD where the temp. is -17.


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brian26
December 16, 2008 at 05:58:36 AM
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-17 degrees................................don't tell me, it's a dry cold right?




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December 16, 2008 at 07:40:11 AM
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Posted By: brian26 on December 16 2008 at 05:58:36 AM

-17 degrees................................don't tell me, it's a dry cold right?



-17 degrees.....helps keep the riff raff out.

Would hate to be dealing with a diesel in those temps, even with a fuel heater.




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This riff-raff is staying down here where it's +17 degrees! LOL




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December 16, 2008 at 12:36:56 PM
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Maybe if the dang wing wasn't blowing you could say it's a dry cold? It's frickin cold. I'm in Worthington, MN and it's a whopping -1 and snow with a wind chill of -17.


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December 16, 2008 at 12:55:54 PM
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Anybody know where I can get my hands on a 28 gallon old style front mount fuel cell. Shell only would be great, we have 2 good bladders. Putting the Stealth together to run this year, and after our little accidents this year, our tank is a little beat up.

By the way, we only tow about 3 miles to SFS & if NOTHING gets torn up we figure it costs @ $500.00 a week to pull in the pit gate. About the only guy I ever knew that made money racing was Karl Kinser, & when it got in his pocket, he quit. Go figure. We don't figure on making money, our mindset going in is, we could just come home with a trailer load of nuthin if things go bad. Still just a hobby for us!

Stay warm guys, see you soon. Went & changed a radiatior hose for a relative last night, OUTSIDE! 17 degrees with wind! A grown man ought to know better. Jim




jdsprint71
December 16, 2008 at 02:33:22 PM
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Jim , I have seen those 25-28 Gal. midget style tanks at Auctions in previous years , some with bladder and some without, heck the tank and baldder combos would sell for aroudn $100 to $150 depending on what shape it was in and the shells , could go for as little as $10 to $40 depending on shape as well. Auctions are usually where you could find one.

I bet that radiator hose was like a steel pipe last night and not much flex to it.



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December 17, 2008 at 03:13:38 AM
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The next time you guys meet up can you post something on here? I was telling my dad about it and he said he would like to go, too.

Thanks,

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December 17, 2008 at 04:48:20 PM
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It probably won't be on the BCS National Title game night. LOL

 

I do know we would like to do it again and I'm sure it will be posted here. I'm thinking it was posted on this thread the first time we did it. It turned out to be pretty good even if it was a small crowd, lotta pictures and myths gone over and corrected. I'm certain the crowd will be bigger the next time.

 

 

 




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Brian,...That looks like the butyl rubber tires produced/sold in the early 60s. I had a service station from 58 to 67 & sold Firestone. They came out with a butyle tire in 62 or 63 & they were slick at 5,000 miles. I only sold 2 sets & returned them for adjustment to the KC Firestone distribution center.

I was in Tampa for the IMCA sprint races in Feb 67 & happen to find a 7.60x15 Butyle tire at the Sears store on the close out rack for $5.00. I used it on the left rear at Olympic Stadium (1/5 mile high bank) where we ran 5 or 6 inches of stagger. Joe Saldana wanted it so bad for his roadster sprint at the 69 Knoxville Nationals he traded me 2 new , 16" ribs for the front.

They worked very well but wore pretty fast, especially on daytime dry slick.

Luther.......... PS The high here in Daytona Beach friday is supposed to be down to 79.




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Posted By: jlstew25 on December 17 2008 at 03:47:52 PM

The next time you guys meet up can you post something on here? I was telling my dad about it and he said he would like to go, too.

Thanks,

John Stewart



John,

We've kind of steering toward a date soon after CB, we will diffently post the time on here would love to have you and your dad come, hopefully Mike will be able to attend so you can meet him, I'm sure he would like your model of the Gambler car.



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Posted By: Sprint97 on December 17 2008 at 05:02:30 PM

Brian,...That looks like the butyl rubber tires produced/sold in the early 60s. I had a service station from 58 to 67 & sold Firestone. They came out with a butyle tire in 62 or 63 & they were slick at 5,000 miles. I only sold 2 sets & returned them for adjustment to the KC Firestone distribution center.

I was in Tampa for the IMCA sprint races in Feb 67 & happen to find a 7.60x15 Butyle tire at the Sears store on the close out rack for $5.00. I used it on the left rear at Olympic Stadium (1/5 mile high bank) where we ran 5 or 6 inches of stagger. Joe Saldana wanted it so bad for his roadster sprint at the 69 Knoxville Nationals he traded me 2 new , 16" ribs for the front.

They worked very well but wore pretty fast, especially on daytime dry slick.

Luther.......... PS The high here in Daytona Beach friday is supposed to be down to 79.



Luther,

Didn't Marsh make soom recaps in late 60's or early 70's that used that used the butyl compound? I know Jim might remember the old man had a couple that he ran with Benny and Parson had 1 also, seems like a few of those Tulsa guys ran them also, we used Parsons up in 1 night at Tulsa on the big track just like a cheese grater ran across it!!



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Atlas Bucrons were the most popular tires for the Lawton/WF area for years. Firestone also made their version as well as US Royal(now Michelin subsidiary-Uniroyal).

If you worked outside and covered a lot of territory you always had an eye for these tires. DOT number was required on the tires to race and these were also soft compound. Funny thing is 40 years later I'll hear stories about time and dates of finding these and the deal to get them. Having 2 sets I can relate since I knew they were rare to begin with. I once bought 3 for $75 and carried them a mile on foot to the car. That was hard work, and I was in those days a tire slinger that had an output of 3,000tires a day. throwing them is one thing, carrying them is a whole nuther issue.

You'd be surprised at the excitement these create ata reunion





brian26
December 17, 2008 at 09:07:56 PM
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There were also tires known as "Plycron". Those were a harder compound for dry-slick abrasive tracks.




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There were also tires known as "Plycron". Those were a harder compound for dry-slick abrasive tracks.



My cars ran the KC Area, Topeka, Knoxville but occasionally in the dry slick area like 81 Speedway , Oka Fair & Tampa Fair in Feburary. The tracks up north were mostly black gumbo & we were used to them. Anytime we ran dry slick, the Wichita, Oklahoma & Texas drivers had the upper hand on us. They realy had the dry slick figured out. They would run OK Rubber Welder recaps & compounds we tried to figure out. Dale Reed used to run a right rear that looked like a saw tooth Sears all weather tread for passenger cars.

You guys probably know what they were! We favored Goodyear or Firestone Diamonds for damp tracks & M-H groved slicks for smooth ones.

Luther.



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That would be a great deal if Mr. Stewart would attend the next get together, I bet he could give us some insight on things from the past and was helpful to me when he had his parts place, sure miss shops like Racers Corner , Corvette Center , as well as Bill Bishop at BRC, whether you bought a $500 worth of parts or $5 worth at those places they would always speak and talk to you and gave you good customer service, I have missed and always will admire Bill Bishop at BRC, had a lot of conversations with that man about racing when by his place to buy some parts and I sure miss that.




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December 18, 2008 at 12:42:18 PM
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Posted By: jdsprint71 on December 18 2008 at 10:02:11 AM

That would be a great deal if Mr. Stewart would attend the next get together, I bet he could give us some insight on things from the past and was helpful to me when he had his parts place, sure miss shops like Racers Corner , Corvette Center , as well as Bill Bishop at BRC, whether you bought a $500 worth of parts or $5 worth at those places they would always speak and talk to you and gave you good customer service, I have missed and always will admire Bill Bishop at BRC, had a lot of conversations with that man about racing when by his place to buy some parts and I sure miss that.



JD,

Ol, Bill was a great guy, he helped me alot when Gary and I races in late 90's, little story about Bill one time at his shop he had a cam that he couldn't get the rear spud out of, man that thing was tight he had it chucked in that big lathe right outside the race shop door had it locked up so it wouldn't turn, he had a 1/2 drive break over and allen wrench trying to break it loose when I walked in I could see he was fighting it and offered my help, well I couldn't get it loose either we messed with that thing for an hour and finally he said try this cheater pipe it was about 4' long well I put that pipe over that break over and it would hold my weight up it wouldn't budge, Bill was getting a little flustrated when he handed me this 5# sledge and told me to hit that Allen wrench maybe that would break it loose, well I hit it he said hit it harder so I hit it again to no avail. so he say DAVID HIT THE MF!!! so I blasted it as hard as I could well that damn allen wrench broke off and hit me square in the left nut, when I came to I was laying on the floor about 10' from the lathe, Bill was in tears laughing at me, apperantly I did a couple of piroets and hit the floor out cold, my left nut was the size of a big peach turned gun metal blue, as I layed there on the floor and unzipped my pants Bill went and got an Ice Pack, I honestly was scared to look but it wasn't bleeding and was still attached but it took a few days(maybe a month) to see if it still worked. Anyway the problem was the cam was reverse rotation something that Sweat had built for Constant (Stan always had goofy stuff) and Bill and I were tightening it instead of loseing it.



brian26
December 18, 2008 at 02:23:06 PM
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Tech question-

 

Anybody ever mess with the standard 3-speed chevy units.? I'm wanting to put one together in the next few days with one of those Nance torque-tube conversion kits. Is this something I can do with a few simple tools?






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