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I've tried to stay out of the weeds and stuck to general, quantifiable observations about each tour and have thought the Outlaws had the clear advantage. Having said that, I thought the way they ruled the Sheldon/Chase Dietz incident was piss poor. Like really bad.

I don't know who made it, I'd love to hear the justification compared to similar situations throughout this past season and/or several seasons.

This isn't a car spinning to avoid contact - it was a car spinning because of contact it initiated. 

One of the worst rulings I've seen in my decades of watching sprint cars. 

Did the semi high limits have a race somewhere this weekend? I didn't see them anywhwere in the Natty Open.

Agreed � don't understand the logic in that call.

Agreed, one of the more ridiculous calls I can recall. 

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Were you making an effort not to see them? There's some variation I suppose, in how you count them, but I see the Saturday finals like this. 10 WoO, 7 H-L, 8 PA, 3 non-affiliated.

If the WoO had used a little more integrity on the one call, Sweet probably would have been dogging Macedo for the win.

I think what it was one of the most competitive fields of the year talent wise. Whether that happens going forward remains to be seen as Hi Limit evolves. I'll say this it reminded me of old Natty opens instead of just another Woo show.

And that call with Sheldon and Dietz was ridiculous.

Actually, I'm pretty sure that if you race witht he WoO, you need a membership, just not a platinum membership. Willing to bet if you look at photos of Sweet's car from this weekend, you'll see the NOS WoO sticker on the wing. I'm pretty sure they even use to have a diamond membership. When TK was runnning nationally (but not full time w/WoO)  with Roth, Race Monitorr had a DD next to his name like all the full time guys. Asked Gibson about it, and the DD was for direct deposit and that the team had an elavated but not full platinum memebership. Not sure if that is still a thing. 

i knew their was a membership fee to run wasn't sure the old amount from a couple years ago or today but not sure how much 

Link to genral rules: https://dirtcar.com/rules/wrg-general-rules/ 

D. Membership Cards

a. All Members in good standing, who carry a Membership Card, will be admitted into the pits at the announced price for the event. Membership Cards must be presented for any discounted price, if any.
b. Each Member is responsible for lost or unauthorized use of the Membership Cards and/or “Series Credentials”. Each time a Card is requested to be replaced a $150 fee may be charged.
c. “Affiliate Members” including Corporate Sponsors, Media, Vendors and guest cards and/or any other valid membership card may not be used by any race participants, team members, relatives and/or friends of participants.
d. Series Credentials shall be issued to “approved” Members and may not be transferred. A Series Credential does not imply or complete the Membership Application and Approval
e. Any misuse of the Membership Card(s) will result in the Card being revoked from its listed member.

I think that this is an interesting idea and a good comment. I'm in the Pacific Northwest and definitely missed seeing the Outlaws. However, had they come up here, I could not have afforded to attend both HL and the WoO. As we all know, the early season trips were often plagued by rain and nobody really wanted to come out here that much anyway, so they dropped that. This year, as you said, the car counts were lighter for the reasons you indicated. While that doesn't hurt the traveling teams, it reduces interest from the local fans; they want to see the best locals try to defeat the travelers. Would they implement the early swing again or simply choose not to come? Your idea about ceding it to HL, considering that Larson and Sweet probably have more of a desire to hold races out here, has some merit on it's face. However, would the WoO be willing to allow that to happen unchallenged, and would it be a smart move is another question. 

here is the link to the woo rules: https://dirtcar.com/rules/series-rules/world-of-outlaws-sprint-car-series/

not trying to intepret rules or whether this applied to this situation or was applied correctly but here it is:

O. Racing

a. Any car that does not race on the designated racing surface in order to better its position will be black flagged and penalized at the discretion of the Series Officials.
b. The maximum number of event laps will be stated by the Series Race Director during the driver’s meeting but may change due to extenuating circumstances.
c. Any car that spins, is involved in an incident, and/or has a problem but does not bring out the yellow flag and/or create a caution period, will blend back into the field where the driver is able to do so. If there is an inadvertent caution period, the Series Officials will determine the placement of the car(s) involved. The placement of the car will be where the car blended back into the field.

have to go ewatch again and see the blend thing was anyone close to passing either Chase or Sheldon?

After taking 1st and 3rd at Knoxville this year, maybe they thought it was time to give the "greatest show on dirt" a chance at the Grove?

Lol, 1st and 3rd. Nascar took first my friend. The best a full time High Limit driver has done in a crown jewel this year is 3rd. 

Talk about sour grapes.

I haven't seen the wreck since I saw it live on the stream tbo but these "blending" rules have always been vague to me. Seems to me sometimes these rules benefit the guy that "stepped on it " and then stood on it to get more cars involved but I could be wrong by the interpretation of the rule.

Seems to me sheldon created a caution since he about looped out, feeding a right rear to Dietz, who then flipped. Also that blend rule is awful and needs to go. 

If you're coming out here, you're going to need to get out here first. Spring swing would be more beneficial, but you run the risk of wet weather. As for the September schedule, the Outlaws have a large footprint in the Midwest. I like the labor day at husets, follow that weekend with a final Knoxville show, and hit either a portion of Kansas/Missouri, or get in some Indiana shows in (I prefer this route.)

I don't subscribe to Dirtvision so I don't watch many WoO shows.  In the few that I have seen this year it seems like Sheldon has been involved in issues quite a bit.  It could be just the luck of the draw for races I've happened to watch.  Legit question though- Do those of you who follow the WoO closely consider Sheldon a dirty/overly-aggressive driver?

Sheldon is very aggressive not dirty.  Him and Corey Day are very similar and have similar results.  Sheldon 8 national level wins but also 8 finishes 20th are worse many due  to the aggression.  Day 9 national wins but 14 20th or worse finishes, many due to the aggression.  Both exciting to watch with alot of wins but won't be in a points title hunt because they are high risk high reward.