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PMSRacing
July 23, 2022 at 12:10:56 PM
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Cmon somebody has to post about it. I've  seen multiple views of it and not a good  look for little Freddy  and pops. Sorta felt bad for Danny all strapped in and nothing he can do. Thank God for suitcase Jake. Boy's will be boys




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July 23, 2022 at 12:49:51 PM
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Posted By: PMSRacing on July 23 2022 at 12:10:56 PM

Cmon somebody has to post about it. I've  seen multiple views of it and not a good  look for little Freddy  and pops. Sorta felt bad for Danny all strapped in and nothing he can do. Thank God for suitcase Jake. Boy's will be boys



Freddy does more blocking than a Nascar driver. Maybe he and his grumpy old man should concentrate on becoming faster and not having to drive everyone into the inside wall so he doesn't get passed.  Dietrich executed the move perfectly.

 


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Murphy
July 23, 2022 at 03:03:01 PM
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Regardless of who the two drivers involved were, and what their history is, why doesn't move like that earn somebody a black flag?




HoldenCaulfield
July 23, 2022 at 04:03:55 PM
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Posted By: Kool Trikes on July 23 2022 at 12:49:51 PM

Freddy does more blocking than a Nascar driver. Maybe he and his grumpy old man should concentrate on becoming faster and not having to drive everyone into the inside wall so he doesn't get passed.  Dietrich executed the move perfectly.

 



Are you retarded? Freddie did nothing wrong and double douche flat out drove into him and flipped him. Blatant, obvious and intentional - he even said so on his twitter page. He could kill someone driving like that and it should have been a DQ. I guarantee you he wouldn't do that to an outlaw and if he did, he would have surely been DQ'd. Rightfully so!


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HoldenCaulfield
July 23, 2022 at 04:14:33 PM
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Posted By: Murphy on July 23 2022 at 03:03:01 PM

Regardless of who the two drivers involved were, and what their history is, why doesn't move like that earn somebody a black flag?



Should have been for sure. Most times, I don't agree with blackflagging anyone for aggressive driving because I don't think they intend to wreck anyone but this one was blatantly obvious. Dietrich even bragged about it on his twitter page. Of course his WWE mentality twitter fans ate it up. The fans in the stands sure didn't and I don't think the other competitors in the pits did either. All this for 4th place in a heat race that qualifies 5. Ridiculous!


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Fordfairlane
July 23, 2022 at 05:40:42 PM
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12 years ago Fred got suspended for doing nothing intentional to Lucas, Deitrich goes on tv telling everyone he intentionally wrecked Freddie. Williams Grove does jack shit. And if you can't drive by a "slower" car that doesn't give permission to take them out. Double Dumb. 




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July 23, 2022 at 08:20:42 PM
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Posted By: HoldenCaulfield on July 23 2022 at 04:03:55 PM

Are you retarded? Freddie did nothing wrong and double douche flat out drove into him and flipped him. Blatant, obvious and intentional - he even said so on his twitter page. He could kill someone driving like that and it should have been a DQ. I guarantee you he wouldn't do that to an outlaw and if he did, he would have surely been DQ'd. Rightfully so!



Fred got what he deserved period.



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July 24, 2022 at 01:12:38 PM
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Posted By: Fordfairlane on July 23 2022 at 05:40:42 PM

12 years ago Fred got suspended for doing nothing intentional to Lucas, Deitrich goes on tv telling everyone he intentionally wrecked Freddie. Williams Grove does jack shit. And if you can't drive by a "slower" car that doesn't give permission to take them out. Double Dumb. 



Bullshit he didn't do that on purpose. He damn near killed Wolfe, and a couple of safety workers. You can't tell me for one damned moment he didn't run Lucas down there on purpose.  He had damned near 1/8 of a mile to get off him and he just pushed him harder.  Anybody that thinks for one moment that he didnt lean on him on purpose needs their fucking head checked.

https://youtu.be/7l3ipg73djU



turn4guy
July 24, 2022 at 01:55:44 PM
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Posted By: Fordfairlane on July 23 2022 at 05:40:42 PM

12 years ago Fred got suspended for doing nothing intentional to Lucas, Deitrich goes on tv telling everyone he intentionally wrecked Freddie. Williams Grove does jack shit. And if you can't drive by a "slower" car that doesn't give permission to take them out. Double Dumb. 



You're high off your ass brother




WingedSpeed
July 24, 2022 at 05:14:08 PM
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Posted By: HoldenCaulfield on July 23 2022 at 04:03:55 PM

Are you retarded? Freddie did nothing wrong and double douche flat out drove into him and flipped him. Blatant, obvious and intentional - he even said so on his twitter page. He could kill someone driving like that and it should have been a DQ. I guarantee you he wouldn't do that to an outlaw and if he did, he would have surely been DQ'd. Rightfully so!



I agree with you totally.  Rahmer did absolutely nothing wrong.  DD just drove right into him and on purpose.  That is why I have no respect for him as a driver.



amyjur
July 25, 2022 at 11:46:00 AM
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Posted By: kossuth on July 24 2022 at 01:12:38 PM

Bullshit he didn't do that on purpose. He damn near killed Wolfe, and a couple of safety workers. You can't tell me for one damned moment he didn't run Lucas down there on purpose.  He had damned near 1/8 of a mile to get off him and he just pushed him harder.  Anybody that thinks for one moment that he didnt lean on him on purpose needs their fucking head checked.

https://youtu.be/7l3ipg73djU



I've seen this video before and it is one of the more vicious crashes I've ever seen. Unbelievable Lucas walked away. That view looking down the front straight tells the tale.  As far as the rest of this mess, I'll start by saying I'm not really a fan of either. Freddie believes that his driving style is perfectly acceptable and that is the problem and it's getting old. When his car is working well and he is capable of moving forward it's not quite as bad but when it's not and he's trying to keep from being passed, look out. He uses multiple lanes and thinks nothing of chopping somebody off.  I have mixed emotions about how Danny chose to handle it. I don't like anybody getting intentionally hit but as long as this has gone on I expected it at some point. That said Danny had to know that even if Freddie only spun out there was still going to be an uproar especially given it was an Outlaw show. I think Danny probably should've been DQ'd. The Outlaws should not be giving a green light to this.  The antics that followed in the pits were simply pathetic.  As Danny came down the pit lane I first thought both Fred and Freddie were going to get run over. Had both Danny and the push vehicle operator not braked they would have. It absolutely was not a good look for Rahmers and reflects badly on the entire team. After all that Freddie goes out in the B and starts outside pole I believe. He starts backing up and we start seeing the same blocking show we saw in the heat race. The last lap he was fourth and chopped Kendall off at least twice that lap trying to hold that last transfer spot. I was glad to see Kendall was able to still get by coming to the checkered.     



hiroshimacarp
July 25, 2022 at 05:13:15 PM
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agree with both sides not being innocent.  at first i thought rahmer stopped in turn 3 and dd had nowhere to go.  dd made it pretty clear on twitter he wrecked him on purpose.  he should have just kept his mouth shut.  rahmer likes to make passive aggressive comments and act innocent about everything.  

i'm just glad we have somebody like brent marks carrying the pa flag right now.  he's the type of guy we want representing us...i hope.  well spoken, clean racer.  not throwing fits like macri.  not treating sprint car racing like glorified high school football like dd and the rahmers.  marks races sprint cars with the respect it deserves.




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July 26, 2022 at 07:16:19 AM
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Posted By: hiroshimacarp on July 25 2022 at 05:13:15 PM

agree with both sides not being innocent.  at first i thought rahmer stopped in turn 3 and dd had nowhere to go.  dd made it pretty clear on twitter he wrecked him on purpose.  he should have just kept his mouth shut.  rahmer likes to make passive aggressive comments and act innocent about everything.  

i'm just glad we have somebody like brent marks carrying the pa flag right now.  he's the type of guy we want representing us...i hope.  well spoken, clean racer.  not throwing fits like macri.  not treating sprint car racing like glorified high school football like dd and the rahmers.  marks races sprint cars with the respect it deserves.



Amen!!  Well said!



fiXXXer
July 26, 2022 at 07:40:14 AM
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Posted By: hiroshimacarp on July 25 2022 at 05:13:15 PM

agree with both sides not being innocent.  at first i thought rahmer stopped in turn 3 and dd had nowhere to go.  dd made it pretty clear on twitter he wrecked him on purpose.  he should have just kept his mouth shut.  rahmer likes to make passive aggressive comments and act innocent about everything.  

i'm just glad we have somebody like brent marks carrying the pa flag right now.  he's the type of guy we want representing us...i hope.  well spoken, clean racer.  not throwing fits like macri.  not treating sprint car racing like glorified high school football like dd and the rahmers.  marks races sprint cars with the respect it deserves.



Couldn't agree more. Danny is a gifted driver but has the mentality of a caveman. He flat out dumped Freddie then bragged about it like he actually did something commendedable then Fred and Freddie acted like douchebags ripping on Danny while he was strapped in the car. Both are an embarrassment to themselves and the sport. Williams Grove should fine both of them and maybe even suspended both teams for one week. 



BStrawser26
July 26, 2022 at 08:08:40 AM
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Posted By: fiXXXer on July 26 2022 at 07:40:14 AM

Couldn't agree more. Danny is a gifted driver but has the mentality of a caveman. He flat out dumped Freddie then bragged about it like he actually did something commendedable then Fred and Freddie acted like douchebags ripping on Danny while he was strapped in the car. Both are an embarrassment to themselves and the sport. Williams Grove should fine both of them and maybe even suspended both teams for one week. 



They both wouldn't have been racing Saturday night if anyone had the guts to do what was right.


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WingedSpeed
July 26, 2022 at 10:34:51 AM
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Posted By: fiXXXer on July 26 2022 at 07:40:14 AM

Couldn't agree more. Danny is a gifted driver but has the mentality of a caveman. He flat out dumped Freddie then bragged about it like he actually did something commendedable then Fred and Freddie acted like douchebags ripping on Danny while he was strapped in the car. Both are an embarrassment to themselves and the sport. Williams Grove should fine both of them and maybe even suspended both teams for one week. 



I have said for years, even about NapCar although the seem to be getting tougher after Pocono, fines and especially penalities should be much more severe.  $300 fines are pocket change to these guys.  When this kind of stuff happens, needs to be DQ immediately, No moneys paid for that event to them, much heavier fines and at least a 2 race suspension.  Keep this up and somebody is going to get badly injured.



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July 26, 2022 at 10:59:21 AM
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Posted By: fiXXXer on July 26 2022 at 07:40:14 AM

Couldn't agree more. Danny is a gifted driver but has the mentality of a caveman. He flat out dumped Freddie then bragged about it like he actually did something commendedable then Fred and Freddie acted like douchebags ripping on Danny while he was strapped in the car. Both are an embarrassment to themselves and the sport. Williams Grove should fine both of them and maybe even suspended both teams for one week. 



Williams Grove would have no say it the matter. It was an outlaw race.


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BStrawser26
July 26, 2022 at 12:28:00 PM
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Posted By: Kool Trikes on July 26 2022 at 10:59:21 AM

Williams Grove would have no say it the matter. It was an outlaw race.



Is Williamsgrove owned by the pink hair lady?  Then she has a say in this matter.  No matter what the outlaws say.  It is her track and if she wanted to suspend them she has every right to do so.   She will not because she doesn't want to lose any cars.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

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Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!


Kool Trikes
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July 27, 2022 at 06:37:13 AM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on July 26 2022 at 12:28:00 PM

Is Williamsgrove owned by the pink hair lady?  Then she has a say in this matter.  No matter what the outlaws say.  It is her track and if she wanted to suspend them she has every right to do so.   She will not because she doesn't want to lose any cars.



Obviously you've never owned a business. All you do is run your mouth about what every race track does wrong and what YOU think they should do. Invest your life into something then maybe your opinion would actually have some merit.

Strap your ass in a sprint car once. After you got finished pissing yourself you'd realize that being behind the wheel and seeing everything from that perspective is so much different than someone that runs his mouth on a forum with no real knowledge about any of it.


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BStrawser26
July 27, 2022 at 06:49:47 AM
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Posted By: Kool Trikes on July 27 2022 at 06:37:13 AM

Obviously you've never owned a business. All you do is run your mouth about what every race track does wrong and what YOU think they should do. Invest your life into something then maybe your opinion would actually have some merit.

Strap your ass in a sprint car once. After you got finished pissing yourself you'd realize that being behind the wheel and seeing everything from that perspective is so much different than someone that runs his mouth on a forum with no real knowledge about any of it.



Nope never owned a business.  But help run a couple for over 33 years now.  I am talking the financial side of the business and helping make decisions that not only affect me but others too. Trying to meet every payroll can sometimes be challenging.

Sorry they both should have been suspended for a couple of weeks!  There is no place for that in sprintcar racing.  


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!



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