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jfgrosz
June 09, 2022 at 04:46:56 PM
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So after TMac's 360 win last Saturday at Knoxville he said his motor was the "Fastest legal motor here in the pits"..... Anybody want to enlighten us and what he is implying?




3togo
June 09, 2022 at 05:32:08 PM
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Posted By: jfgrosz on June 09 2022 at 04:46:56 PM

So after TMac's 360 win last Saturday at Knoxville he said his motor was the "Fastest legal motor here in the pits"..... Anybody want to enlighten us and what he is implying?



That his legal motor is the fastest of the legal motors...



HoldenCaulfield
June 09, 2022 at 06:02:21 PM
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Coming from a guy who once said he hated racing 360's. Take it for what it's worth.


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dsc1600
June 09, 2022 at 06:06:51 PM
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Take anything any McCarl says with a few grains of salt. 



hurricanefan
June 09, 2022 at 06:23:47 PM
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wish that new announcer would have asked him about the jump on the start

miss ya mike roberts



sdhuntandfish
June 09, 2022 at 06:35:20 PM
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Posted By: hurricanefan on June 09 2022 at 06:23:47 PM

wish that new announcer would have asked him about the jump on the start

miss ya mike roberts



Indeed. Need Mike back, he's good.

I know the new fella is trying but he sounds like Chumlee from Pawn Stars.




Shortie12
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June 10, 2022 at 05:47:36 AM
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Posted By: sdhuntandfish on June 09 2022 at 06:35:20 PM

Indeed. Need Mike back, he's good.

I know the new fella is trying but he sounds like Chumlee from Pawn Stars.



At least  good guy Jamie Moyle got credit for a strong legal motor.To come from 8th to second in one lap takes a great start or jump. Terry passed Clint clean and deserved to win. TheASCS head rule helped save expensive head work and rather than enforce the rules were dropped. Age slows down the best and with two sons racing  410s makes sense to run a 360 . He is one of the few non Outlaws that has been able to use others peoples money to race full time his whole carreer. Lenard was still one of the best mechanics in the pits



laudarevsonhunt
June 10, 2022 at 04:59:33 PM
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This message was edited on June 10, 2022 at 05:00:18 PM by laudarevsonhunt

Ca has a few illegal 360 motors . When was the last time officals checked one? Ask Charlie Fisher.

 



sprintfast
June 10, 2022 at 05:33:32 PM
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TMac = D bag 




ginelmore
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June 10, 2022 at 08:52:12 PM
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This message was edited on June 11, 2022 at 08:02:57 PM by ginelmore

If there's that much cheating going on in the 360 class and no one checking the motors . Then why not just drop the 360s and the Pro Series since there only getting 12 to 14 cars bring in the 305s pay 7 hundred to win for the 305s . And take the 360 payout and move it to the 410s where it is harder to cheat  Glen Murra



cubicdollars
June 11, 2022 at 05:05:19 PM
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Posted By: dsc1600 on June 09 2022 at 06:06:51 PM

Take anything any McCarl says with a few grains of salt. 



+1


 

 

 

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highspeeddirt
June 11, 2022 at 05:43:08 PM
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Or you can translate that into he is cheating less than others in the pits.




brettco
June 11, 2022 at 06:03:31 PM
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Posted By: highspeeddirt on June 11 2022 at 05:43:08 PM

Or you can translate that into he is cheating less than others in the pits.



 One of the winningest 360s has been over 363.6ci for over a decade. 



linbob
June 13, 2022 at 02:01:15 AM
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Posted By: ginelmore on June 10 2022 at 08:52:12 PM

If there's that much cheating going on in the 360 class and no one checking the motors . Then why not just drop the 360s and the Pro Series since there only getting 12 to 14 cars bring in the 305s pay 7 hundred to win for the 305s . And take the 360 payout and move it to the 410s where it is harder to cheat  Glen Murra



You are crazy.  You think all 305 are legal.  The 360 s at Knoxville do a fine job.  Is tracks resposibilty to keep engines legal.  We raced 305  and found out one car was a 377.  You think all 410 are legal.  It is sort of on the honor system.  



beezr2002
June 13, 2022 at 05:21:03 AM
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Posted By: linbob on June 13 2022 at 02:01:15 AM

You are crazy.  You think all 305 are legal.  The 360 s at Knoxville do a fine job.  Is tracks resposibilty to keep engines legal.  We raced 305  and found out one car was a 377.  You think all 410 are legal.  It is sort of on the honor system.  



I've been wondering when was the last time that I heard of an engine getting checked in the 410 divisions? An honor system sounds good but.....Are sanctioning bodies or tracks checking fuel?  I'm not sure if bigger is always better with engines these days, the secret is the drivability of the engine for the track you are visiting. Anyone hear of engines getting pumped anymore?




longtimefan
June 13, 2022 at 07:46:08 AM
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Posted By: beezr2002 on June 13 2022 at 05:21:03 AM

I've been wondering when was the last time that I heard of an engine getting checked in the 410 divisions? An honor system sounds good but.....Are sanctioning bodies or tracks checking fuel?  I'm not sure if bigger is always better with engines these days, the secret is the drivability of the engine for the track you are visiting. Anyone hear of engines getting pumped anymore?



Don't this to be fact but the story was that the All Stars pumped Macri's at Port Royal.



Shortie12
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June 13, 2022 at 09:45:14 AM
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Posted By: longtimefan on June 13 2022 at 07:46:08 AM

Don't this to be fact but the story was that the All Stars pumped Macri's at Port Royal.



Weight is the one thing they check.Reutzel frames were a hot topic and resulted in action. There has been accusations of Traction Control but dont recall one DQ. There have been some wing infractions and there have been some bigger motors but cant remember any D,Q..If a protest is filed with proper procedure and money posted they will be torn down but most everyone is ready to go after the races. Nothing worse than being declared the winner next day. 



Michael_N
June 13, 2022 at 03:59:57 PM
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Put a small wing on top, pin it at 20 degrees and scrap all engine rules. Problem solved. 




armyduke
June 13, 2022 at 04:31:03 PM
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Posted By: longtimefan on June 13 2022 at 07:46:08 AM

Don't this to be fact but the story was that the All Stars pumped Macri's at Port Royal.



It is fact, the All Stars posted it on their own twitter site after the A.  They post what they are tech-ing after most races.  Tires, Fuel, Motor etc.... sometimes more than one item.



SprintFan19
June 13, 2022 at 04:35:49 PM
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This video from Brian Kemenah and Eric Crocker is well worth the time.  It does cover some motor issues on how the HP is needed for qualification and then he tries to reduce it to a usable level for the rest of the night.  I'm sure it's different between a 410 and a 360 though, since the 360 already produces less HP.  Still very informative.   

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wsy9TlvweyE





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