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While alot of people may not agree with me on my opinions or thoughts , I can no longer sit by and not voice how I feel .
First it is ashame that area tracks not only in Pa and elsewhere don't work together more to allow fans to see there heroes or larger car counts once in a while besides bigger races. Another example occured last night at the Lou Blaney Memorial at Sharon Speedway. While I realize the traveling expenses , fuel and other costs incurred are hindering teams , there has to be a way to solve this problem , one way is to lower costs by the governing body WRG who has designed the rules packages for sprint car racing.
It is quite obvious that racing is headed to regional area racing where teams will race within four states as seen with the NSL & All Stars will receive new sponsors to secure them within there area of racing and allow them to raise there purse structures. Teams can't continue on this trend of racing coast to coast besides maybe a few money backed teams .
Next I believe there are two major things fans want , great racing and clean upgraded facilities to bring there wife or friends to enjoy racing .Along these lines I believe tracks need to get more innovative to bring in new young fans as we the older crowd can't continue to support most local tracks. How I would do it is -- bring in what young people want to see , concerts, money prizes , present close racing -(this is what got me hooked) , tie in the the computer world ,and reward people for there support as mentioned . The mentioned are a few ideas I have what are yours ? I hope I've defined briefly what I would do , as I've been criticized for not doing so , I REALLY CARE ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON not to see this in writing and I work with many various groups and promoters to bring in what I believe you want to see. Thanks for reading this lengthy blog or message.
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Posted By: robertaltman on July 12 2015 at 09:24:05 AM
While alot of people may not agree with me on my opinions or thoughts , I can no longer sit by and not voice how I feel .
First it is ashame that area tracks not only in Pa and elsewhere don't work together more to allow fans to see there heroes or larger car counts once in a while besides bigger races. Another example occured last night at the Lou Blaney Memorial at Sharon Speedway. While I realize the traveling expenses , fuel and other costs incurred are hindering teams , there has to be a way to solve this problem , one way is to lower costs by the governing body WRG who has designed the rules packages for sprint car racing.
It is quite obvious that racing is headed to regional area racing where teams will race within four states as seen with the NSL & All Stars will receive new sponsors to secure them within there area of racing and allow them to raise there purse structures. Teams can't continue on this trend of racing coast to coast besides maybe a few money backed teams .
Next I believe there are two major things fans want , great racing and clean upgraded facilities to bring there wife or friends to enjoy racing .Along these lines I believe tracks need to get more innovative to bring in new young fans as we the older crowd can't continue to support most local tracks. How I would do it is -- bring in what young people want to see , concerts, money prizes , present close racing -(this is what got me hooked) , tie in the the computer world ,and reward people for there support as mentioned . The mentioned are a few ideas I have what are yours ? I hope I've defined briefly what I would do , as I've been criticized for not doing so , I REALLY CARE ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON not to see this in writing and I work with many various groups and promoters to bring in what I believe you want to see. Thanks for reading this lengthy blog or message.
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Here we go again..................
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Posted By: robertaltman on July 12 2015 at 09:24:05 AM
While alot of people may not agree with me on my opinions or thoughts , I can no longer sit by and not voice how I feel .
First it is ashame that area tracks not only in Pa and elsewhere don't work together more to allow fans to see there heroes or larger car counts once in a while besides bigger races. Another example occured last night at the Lou Blaney Memorial at Sharon Speedway. While I realize the traveling expenses , fuel and other costs incurred are hindering teams , there has to be a way to solve this problem , one way is to lower costs by the governing body WRG who has designed the rules packages for sprint car racing.
It is quite obvious that racing is headed to regional area racing where teams will race within four states as seen with the NSL & All Stars will receive new sponsors to secure them within there area of racing and allow them to raise there purse structures. Teams can't continue on this trend of racing coast to coast besides maybe a few money backed teams .
Next I believe there are two major things fans want , great racing and clean upgraded facilities to bring there wife or friends to enjoy racing .Along these lines I believe tracks need to get more innovative to bring in new young fans as we the older crowd can't continue to support most local tracks. How I would do it is -- bring in what young people want to see , concerts, money prizes , present close racing -(this is what got me hooked) , tie in the the computer world ,and reward people for there support as mentioned . The mentioned are a few ideas I have what are yours ? I hope I've defined briefly what I would do , as I've been criticized for not doing so , I REALLY CARE ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON not to see this in writing and I work with many various groups and promoters to bring in what I believe you want to see. Thanks for reading this lengthy blog or message.
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I'll shoot one hole in your theory that dirt track promoters should present non racing events such as concerts. Case in point, our local dirt track is an hour or more from the nearest population center, the Twin Cities of Minneapolis/St. Paul. I live about 25 miles north of the Cities and Friday night I skipped a Sprint Car race to watch my youngest daughter's fiance's band open for a group called Alien Ant Farm. It was a medium sized bar/club about 20 minutes from home and an equal distance from the CIties. There are many venues like that in the Twin Cities, especially downtown Minneapolis, with tons of national acts coming through each week. People like to drink and take sober cabs home. Our local dirt track has an indoor arena where they race karts on Saturday afternoons and tried a one off concert with a fairly big local band. It didn't do well and has not happened since. Dirt track racing is a rural sport often far from the night life of nearby cities. They are generally located too far out to compete with established concert venues in metro areas. That's my opinion and I'm stickin' to it. 
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2nd hole in your theory. If promotors work together and every track but one goes dark, you will end up losing cars. If 2 tracks split 40 cars, each track gets 20, and 40 cars get an A-main check and get their lapsfor the night. If 40 cars go to one track, 16 load up early with no check and a dissappointing night. Modern sprint cars a way to much money and work to keep going to the track and not seein some returns. After a while some of the teams are just going to have had their fill and not come back. Less cars to draw from and you won't be able to have big car counts at the specials.
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Don't waste your time arguing with him. It's obvious he was at Port Royal last night because it was kids night, there was a live band playing before the races and it was a good race. It's not his ideas. He's just regurgitating what he saw last night at Port. And by the way, he STILL hasn't given one single detail about how he thinks the tracks should go about implementing a home built engine incentive. Just more of the same......
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Posted By: robertaltman on July 12 2015 at 09:24:05 AM
While alot of people may not agree with me on my opinions or thoughts , I can no longer sit by and not voice how I feel .
First it is ashame that area tracks not only in Pa and elsewhere don't work together more to allow fans to see there heroes or larger car counts once in a while besides bigger races. Another example occured last night at the Lou Blaney Memorial at Sharon Speedway. While I realize the traveling expenses , fuel and other costs incurred are hindering teams , there has to be a way to solve this problem , one way is to lower costs by the governing body WRG who has designed the rules packages for sprint car racing.
It is quite obvious that racing is headed to regional area racing where teams will race within four states as seen with the NSL & All Stars will receive new sponsors to secure them within there area of racing and allow them to raise there purse structures. Teams can't continue on this trend of racing coast to coast besides maybe a few money backed teams .
Next I believe there are two major things fans want , great racing and clean upgraded facilities to bring there wife or friends to enjoy racing .Along these lines I believe tracks need to get more innovative to bring in new young fans as we the older crowd can't continue to support most local tracks. How I would do it is -- bring in what young people want to see , concerts, money prizes , present close racing -(this is what got me hooked) , tie in the the computer world ,and reward people for there support as mentioned . The mentioned are a few ideas I have what are yours ? I hope I've defined briefly what I would do , as I've been criticized for not doing so , I REALLY CARE ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON not to see this in writing and I work with many various groups and promoters to bring in what I believe you want to see. Thanks for reading this lengthy blog or message.
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Please answer a few questions.
1...Name a promoter (of the many) you have worked with.
2...Tell us which of your ideas he implimented, and how.
3...Tell us how big an increase he saw from useing you idea. How many more ticket sales, how big an increase in revenue, how big an increase in car counts.
4...How lasting were these increases. Did they last for a long period or just a few weeks.
And please be as DETAILED as possible in your responses.
YOU SAID you work with many promoters, so you should easily be able to answer these questions in detail. If not then you are a fraud and do nothing for racing but type bulls**t on a message board.
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Posted By: fiXXXer on July 12 2015 at 02:10:53 PM
Don't waste your time arguing with him. It's obvious he was at Port Royal last night because it was kids night, there was a live band playing before the races and it was a good race. It's not his ideas. He's just regurgitating what he saw last night at Port. And by the way, he STILL hasn't given one single detail about how he thinks the tracks should go about implementing a home built engine incentive. Just more of the same......
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I will not argue with you sir , I was not at Port Royal , yes I've discussed alot of my ideas with Port Royal and they have listened as any track should to any fan ,which is more then some tracks do . Some tracks really care about fans , others don't at least thats what I've found over the years . As far as home built engine program I will gladly give you my thoughts to it , as years ago that was all that raced in sprint cars , the home made bug days or super modifieds as some places call them or 30x 90 chassis , and so forth . I would simply implement an added incentive such as money or points if a team built there own motor and they had a way to tag or prove that it was there home grown motor as does the 87 team ( Alan Krimes ) who also sells them to some teams . You could sell them but had to use them in your own car. This is what was done long ago that they built the entire car engine , chassis , nerf bars and complete car ,etc. team or by car owner .Innovation was quite unique back then , but not anymore as everyone has same equipment .
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Posted By: robertaltman on July 12 2015 at 09:24:05 AM
While alot of people may not agree with me on my opinions or thoughts , I can no longer sit by and not voice how I feel .
First it is ashame that area tracks not only in Pa and elsewhere don't work together more to allow fans to see there heroes or larger car counts once in a while besides bigger races. Another example occured last night at the Lou Blaney Memorial at Sharon Speedway. While I realize the traveling expenses , fuel and other costs incurred are hindering teams , there has to be a way to solve this problem , one way is to lower costs by the governing body WRG who has designed the rules packages for sprint car racing.
It is quite obvious that racing is headed to regional area racing where teams will race within four states as seen with the NSL & All Stars will receive new sponsors to secure them within there area of racing and allow them to raise there purse structures. Teams can't continue on this trend of racing coast to coast besides maybe a few money backed teams .
Next I believe there are two major things fans want , great racing and clean upgraded facilities to bring there wife or friends to enjoy racing .Along these lines I believe tracks need to get more innovative to bring in new young fans as we the older crowd can't continue to support most local tracks. How I would do it is -- bring in what young people want to see , concerts, money prizes , present close racing -(this is what got me hooked) , tie in the the computer world ,and reward people for there support as mentioned . The mentioned are a few ideas I have what are yours ? I hope I've defined briefly what I would do , as I've been criticized for not doing so , I REALLY CARE ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON not to see this in writing and I work with many various groups and promoters to bring in what I believe you want to see. Thanks for reading this lengthy blog or message.
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I wonder if I could set my watch or calendar to your posting schedule.
i have no idea what you are trying to say in your first paragraph. Promoters should work together and close when there are big races but traveling is killing the sport. So local teams should have a local option taken away from them so they have to travel to go to a big race....makes sense to me. Oh and it's all the WRG's fault as usual. I probably should stop taking the bait here.
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2nd hole in your theory. If promotors work together and every track but one goes dark, you will end up losing cars. If 2 tracks split 40 cars, each track gets 20, and 40 cars get an A-main check and get their lapsfor the night. If 40 cars go to one track, 16 load up early with no check and a dissappointing night. Modern sprint cars a way to much money and work to keep going to the track and not seein some returns. After a while some of the teams are just going to have had their fill and not come back. Less cars to draw from and you won't be able to have big car counts at the specials.
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One way around the split fields is additional race days. A Wednesday night race, or what ever night fits an area. Spliting fields like you said...each get an A Feature. Split the nights and all get two nights of racing opportunities. It was nothing back in the '70's and early '80's to run a day show, and 100 miles away the teams could go run a night show. The problem has become costs. Plain and simple. There are ways to bring costs down. Answers? Yeh....it was touched on already on Hoseheads.....700HP vs 950HP. How much do you suppose that extra 250HP costs? That's only one cost cutter. Plus.....purse size. Regional racing is the future. And like the man said....that will bring out additional local sponsors and monies. That will help build purses. I know....our business has never spent anything on racing. This year we joined with the NSL to the tune of $10,000.00. Check out how many sponsors the NSL attracted in just the first season. And all local to the states the NSL is running in, with FVP as the primary. National sponsors are sure to join in if the NSL succeeds, and we bet that it would. The purses? Add money throughout the field. Something that hasn't been done in years. Big money on top is one thing, but all that really means is the "well oiled" teams just keep getting more of the "oil". That is another reason why car counts have gone down. Race fans do have many of the answers to the problems. The track owners and promoters need to seek the fan's imput. After all, it's the fan's dollars they realy need. My post can also be shot full of holes, I know. But before you shoot, gather up your own $10,000.00, got to a track or series that you believe is open to change and see what your $10,000.00 might do.
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Posted By: oswald on July 12 2015 at 03:31:10 PM
Please answer a few questions.
1...Name a promoter (of the many) you have worked with.
2...Tell us which of your ideas he implimented, and how.
3...Tell us how big an increase he saw from useing you idea. How many more ticket sales, how big an increase in revenue, how big an increase in car counts.
4...How lasting were these increases. Did they last for a long period or just a few weeks.
And please be as DETAILED as possible in your responses.
YOU SAID you work with many promoters, so you should easily be able to answer these questions in detail. If not then you are a fraud and do nothing for racing but type bulls**t on a message board.
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1. worked with or conjunction with Port Royal ,Steve O Neal , Bob Miller , Steve Inch-Charlie Paige , Dave Willoughby ,
Knoxville , Brian Stickel , now GM there , have discussed some ideas with Aaron Fry of BOSS series on bringing his series to Pa , have made contacts for him with area tracks to start discussions with him for his schedule . Know alot of people in the racing industry including NSCHOF EXCUTIVE DIRECTOR Bob Baker and others .
2. Done giveaways, autograph sessions, made suggestions to tracks , one was hot air hand dryers to Selinsgrove , have done contingency awards for tracks such Grandview , Selinsgrove by contacting area racing businesses , years ago did several autgraph sessions at Knoxville in the hall outside fourth turn , quite a while back , had many good drivers-attend , made suggestions to Port Royal to Mr Aumiller regarding procedure at french fry stands , entrance to grandstand , etc , have contributed money to drivers and fans for various rewards or giveaways and more . Have passed on opinions from fans as to what they want to see as far sanctioning groups . Had a few different fan organizations for fans to save them money . Am considering doing a few new things again to assist or help fans .
3. had some ideas to increase sales , but most tracks don't want you to be involved with those type of things , as there management or fair boards do the decision making
4.some ideas I had Bob Miller we discussed and he used them , have passed out purse sheets to drivers to let them know of the upcoming purse for a certain race . have done continuous work for Bob Miller when he needed something done he called me or sent something to me , if I did something I did on a regular basis such as fan events at Selinsgrove
also have done alot of fan activities as stated because this is more important to me then track management issues , sent letters or suggestions to WRG , they did not respond accept for once , they probably took offense to some suggestions but got poor response from them but have a good relationship with Brian Carter and others . Any time I am called upon by people who know me I gladly help in anyway possible . I hope this clarifies your questions , I don't proclaim to have all the answers , I just try to help and grow racing for fans to see that racing is fun to all interested parties .
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For the life of me I will never understand why this guy gets you people so spun-up. You jump on him like a vulture. You guys remind me of a bunch of school bullies. For God's sake, let him say his piece. He has that right, no?
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Posted By: robertaltman on July 12 2015 at 09:24:05 AM
While alot of people may not agree with me on my opinions or thoughts , I can no longer sit by and not voice how I feel .
First it is ashame that area tracks not only in Pa and elsewhere don't work together more to allow fans to see there heroes or larger car counts once in a while besides bigger races. Another example occured last night at the Lou Blaney Memorial at Sharon Speedway. While I realize the traveling expenses , fuel and other costs incurred are hindering teams , there has to be a way to solve this problem , one way is to lower costs by the governing body WRG who has designed the rules packages for sprint car racing.
It is quite obvious that racing is headed to regional area racing where teams will race within four states as seen with the NSL & All Stars will receive new sponsors to secure them within there area of racing and allow them to raise there purse structures. Teams can't continue on this trend of racing coast to coast besides maybe a few money backed teams .
Next I believe there are two major things fans want , great racing and clean upgraded facilities to bring there wife or friends to enjoy racing .Along these lines I believe tracks need to get more innovative to bring in new young fans as we the older crowd can't continue to support most local tracks. How I would do it is -- bring in what young people want to see , concerts, money prizes , present close racing -(this is what got me hooked) , tie in the the computer world ,and reward people for there support as mentioned . The mentioned are a few ideas I have what are yours ? I hope I've defined briefly what I would do , as I've been criticized for not doing so , I REALLY CARE ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON not to see this in writing and I work with many various groups and promoters to bring in what I believe you want to see. Thanks for reading this lengthy blog or message.
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Robert, a couple things you mention, I agree with 100%. At the top of my list are Clean upgraded facilities with all modern restrooms, both men and womens. In addition, good quality food at reasonable prices. Concessions designed and staffed with enough people that there is not a long wait. A minimum amount of dust coming off the track. In other words, track preparation that takes into consideration the fans comfort and not just the desires of the drivers. And the best way to bring in young new fans is reduced admissions for young teens. A 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 year old is not an adult and should not have to pay or have Mom, Dad, Uncle, G-Paw etc pay full adult price. Teens of those ages are the future of the sport and when promoters charge them as adults, it does not grow the future. Many tracks have policies that have half price or reduced price for Seniors but charge a 12 year old as an adult. Promoters should look at it this way, I, like most seniors that are race fans will gladly pay full price because we generaly can afford to and have been fans for years. Therefore, give that discount to the young teens. And tracks near military facilities should always give discounts to our service men and women. I personally know a number of people that became race fans and drivers because they were attracted to racetracks near where they were stationed.
For what it's worth, my opinion.
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1. worked with or conjunction with Port Royal ,Steve O Neal , Bob Miller , Steve Inch-Charlie Paige , Dave Willoughby ,
Knoxville , Brian Stickel , now GM there , have discussed some ideas with Aaron Fry of BOSS series on bringing his series to Pa , have made contacts for him with area tracks to start discussions with him for his schedule . Know alot of people in the racing industry including NSCHOF EXCUTIVE DIRECTOR Bob Baker and others .
2. Done giveaways, autograph sessions, made suggestions to tracks , one was hot air hand dryers to Selinsgrove , have done contingency awards for tracks such Grandview , Selinsgrove by contacting area racing businesses , years ago did several autgraph sessions at Knoxville in the hall outside fourth turn , quite a while back , had many good drivers-attend , made suggestions to Port Royal to Mr Aumiller regarding procedure at french fry stands , entrance to grandstand , etc , have contributed money to drivers and fans for various rewards or giveaways and more . Have passed on opinions from fans as to what they want to see as far sanctioning groups . Had a few different fan organizations for fans to save them money . Am considering doing a few new things again to assist or help fans .
3. had some ideas to increase sales , but most tracks don't want you to be involved with those type of things , as there management or fair boards do the decision making
4.some ideas I had Bob Miller we discussed and he used them , have passed out purse sheets to drivers to let them know of the upcoming purse for a certain race . have done continuous work for Bob Miller when he needed something done he called me or sent something to me , if I did something I did on a regular basis such as fan events at Selinsgrove
also have done alot of fan activities as stated because this is more important to me then track management issues , sent letters or suggestions to WRG , they did not respond accept for once , they probably took offense to some suggestions but got poor response from them but have a good relationship with Brian Carter and others . Any time I am called upon by people who know me I gladly help in anyway possible . I hope this clarifies your questions , I don't proclaim to have all the answers , I just try to help and grow racing for fans to see that racing is fun to all interested parties .
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I see you changed "work with" to "worked with". You do know working with someone means more than offering a suggestion when you run into them behind the stands for 45 seconds! It means being in the office with a promoter for hours going over possibilities and what is really feasable to impliment.
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I think he was at Sharon last night and was disappointed that no Posse guys showed up even though Lincoln had a $5k to win show and Port had a regular show. Hence the "why don't we all work together" and the "no one travels anymore" narratives.
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Yeah...and not only that...i heard that Lincoln secured a permit to upgrade their restroom facilities, only to have their Saturday Night competitor,beat them to the punch...but they did PERMIT the water truck to mist the track for one pass before the A main.
Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better
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I will not argue with you sir , I was not at Port Royal , yes I've discussed alot of my ideas with Port Royal and they have listened as any track should to any fan ,which is more then some tracks do . Some tracks really care about fans , others don't at least thats what I've found over the years . As far as home built engine program I will gladly give you my thoughts to it , as years ago that was all that raced in sprint cars , the home made bug days or super modifieds as some places call them or 30x 90 chassis , and so forth . I would simply implement an added incentive such as money or points if a team built there own motor and they had a way to tag or prove that it was there home grown motor as does the 87 team ( Alan Krimes ) who also sells them to some teams . You could sell them but had to use them in your own car. This is what was done long ago that they built the entire car engine , chassis , nerf bars and complete car ,etc. team or by car owner .Innovation was quite unique back then , but not anymore as everyone has same equipment .
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Ok once again, not one single detail. Be specific. How do you determine what a home built engine is? How can you stop Mike Heffner from having Don Ott come over and built an engine at the Heffner shop and call it home built? What if Tommy Rider decides to become a “crew member" for all of the teams he builds engines for? Would they not be home built? Technically, yes they would be. What's to stop John Zemaitis from purchasing all of the parts and paying Tommy Rider to assemble them for him and call him a member of the Zemco team? It's just like most of the shit you say, senseless. You could NEVER police such a program. I'm as stupid as they come when it comes to the mechanical aspect of sprint cars and I just thought of a few ways for a team to do what their currently doing and collect money or points from your incentive program. Now just imagine how many MORE ways the guys who are actually smart about this shit can find to exploit such a program. I wish I could buy your ideas for what they're worth and sell them for what you think they're worth. I'd be one rich mofo.
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I drove out to Ohio for (1) Lou Blaney Nemorial race...only to find that Ohio drivers do not support he place,.
Dust was flying on the first lap of htlaps and the racing was subpar on a track that was patched and pretty much joke conditions...the most excitement of the night was watching the sherrifs issue warnings to fans who had too much to drink.
Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better
weather." Van May
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July 13, 2015 at
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Posted By: cheroger on July 12 2015 at 05:44:06 PM
Robert, a couple things you mention, I agree with 100%. At the top of my list are Clean upgraded facilities with all modern restrooms, both men and womens. In addition, good quality food at reasonable prices. Concessions designed and staffed with enough people that there is not a long wait. A minimum amount of dust coming off the track. In other words, track preparation that takes into consideration the fans comfort and not just the desires of the drivers. And the best way to bring in young new fans is reduced admissions for young teens. A 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 year old is not an adult and should not have to pay or have Mom, Dad, Uncle, G-Paw etc pay full adult price. Teens of those ages are the future of the sport and when promoters charge them as adults, it does not grow the future. Many tracks have policies that have half price or reduced price for Seniors but charge a 12 year old as an adult. Promoters should look at it this way, I, like most seniors that are race fans will gladly pay full price because we generaly can afford to and have been fans for years. Therefore, give that discount to the young teens. And tracks near military facilities should always give discounts to our service men and women. I personally know a number of people that became race fans and drivers because they were attracted to racetracks near where they were stationed.
For what it's worth, my opinion.
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Hope you are OK with higher ticket prices also! Most everything you want costs money. Many tracks are not making enough to remodel restrooms. More staff at food stands means more expense to sell the same amout of food but you also want food prices to be "reasonable" and the quality good. So no raising prices to pay for extra staff.
More track prep means spend more money.
Letting in 12 - 16 year old for free that used to pay means less income.
A lot of seniors are on a very fixed income and not getting a discount could keep a number of them home.
Only way to do all this that I can see is higher adult prices
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July 13, 2015 at
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Excuse me, I miss read. But letting in young teens for a discount that have been paying full price will cause a loss in income from ticket sales also.
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