Forum: HoseHeads Sprint Car General Forum (go)
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If you think the new groups are bad for sprint car racing then why in another post did you say you're going to support the Renegades? I think what the NSL is doing in the Midwest is nothing but good for sprint car racing. It gives the local drivers a chance to race for more money while staying within 8 hours of their homes and it gives us the fans to see more good sprint car racing without having to fly. What's the bad in that?

And Danny Schatz tried downsizing the 1/2 mile at RRVS in Fargo and didn't have much luck with that.  SI I guess I am going to have to disagree. I think it comes down to the track surface and track prep. Brainard and Fergus Falls both have smaller tracks but do not tend to have very good races there but grand forks and Brandon tend usually have good shows. The last 2 are sprint car tracks weekly the first 2 were not but have hosted WoO shows a couple times the last 5 years. I really liked fargo when it was a half mile but also saw good shows there when it was a 1/3 or 3/8ths whatever they called it. And jackson mn is a half mile but I would rather drive right by it and head further south to Knoxville. 

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I agree   with alot  of what you have said here    , I donot want  to downsize  all  1/2 mile  tracks  and  I certainly don't want  to get rid  of  the  season big events , but  I am saying  racing  appears to get better on smaller  tracks less then these  big tracks .  Track surfaces or track condition plays alot into weekly  racing , just look at Wms grove  not the same  different  every week , drivers  were  not happy  about it there . So  I do have  a  clue  and do know whats going on , I have to choose my words more carefully  because  I'm not making myself clear on these  issues . Opinion or choices are different  on who is best  at  what , but right now  Port  to me  cares more about  you the fan by talking to them weekly and the improvements  they  are making . Actual racing  differs at the different tracks  as  some prefer  another track over another , Lincoln vs Port Royal for example . It appears to me  containing speed can make a good race , that is why some tracks consider or downsize there track.  I hope this clarifies what I'm saying ?

No I don't  go too  crappy tracks , the track prep does  have alot to say what the race  will be like  , I 've been to knoxville as well  not weekly but tfor te Nationals and I  don't always see  great racing during  that time . But  you probably do see  better  weekly . But the thing now is with these  locked down  winged 410's they get spread out , if they  were  freed up a  bit you'd see even better racing but the drivers and WRG like it the way it is . I plan on taking in more non-wing racing , slower maybe  but the driving  is back in there hands  . I am not saying  that winged  410's are not  good drivers , as  I have alot of  drivers who are  my friends that are   great  drivers who I respect and admire . Racing years ago my friend was much better  even with the wings as they were smaller , and so forth .It could be great again but people are happy the way it is . I just hope  they keep tweaking the rules as it does appear to be getting better .

Tell me more about what racing was like years ago. I've only been going to races for the last 55 years. Hope you live in Indiana or California if you want to see a lot of non wing racing. I like both winged & non wing. But I am very happy I live close to Knoxville. If you don't like the show there you will not like racing anywhere. No matter where you go every now & then you will see a bad show. That is true with any kind of racing and in fact any sport. Last years Super Bowl is a good example. What would you be saying about the NFL now if you had spent $1500 for a ticket to attend that game.

Stop griping about the music, fan freebies and other crap and enjoy the racing.

The worst night I ever had at the sprint car races is better than the best night I ever had anywhere else.

Like Abe Lincoln said, we can complain that rose bushes have thorns or rejoice that thorn bushes have roses!

Ok  i do enjoy all racing and will not complain but it has room to improve ,like anything right.

I too have been going to the races for over 50 years, and they have been mostly central PA race tracks. Tell me why the "good old days" were better and tell me about the races you saw that give you that opinion.

maybe he means back in the days when heat 1 was comprised of cars that were 2 sesonds a lap slower than the rest of the field and were lapped 3 times before the feature ended if they didnt blow up?

perhaps this clown is why some promoters do not listen to fans?

Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May