HoseHeads.com | HoseHeads Classifieds | Racer's Auction
Home | Register | Contact | Verify Email | FAQ |
Blogs | Photo Gallery | Press Release | Results | HoseheadsClassifieds.com


Welcome Guest. Already registered? Please Login

 

Forum: HoseHeads Sprint Car General Forum (go)
Moderators: dirtonly  /  dmantx  /  hosehead


Records per page
 
Topic: Are you interested in deciding ? Email this topic to a friend | Subscribe to this TopicReport this Topic to Moderator
Page 1 of 1   of  12 replies
winning drive
MyWebsite
October 26, 2014 at 01:46:01 AM
Joined: 06/22/2014
Posts: 211
Reply

Are   you interested  in deciding   the  following  --the driver  of the  year  , the  promoter  of the  year , the best  all around    track , and  who has  done the most   for  racing  ?  these  awards  should be  selected   by   you the  Fans  not  the  media members  or  even  the  Hall  of fame .  What   do  you think ?




Dryslick Willie
October 26, 2014 at 07:27:06 AM
Joined: 12/17/2009
Posts: 2257
Reply

I think those awards should be decided by people who can decide those things in an objective way as to who really deserves them.   And I hate to burst your bubble, but that ain't the fans.   Objectivity and common sense go out the window where fan votes are involved.   People would probably vote Steve or Sammy in as driver of the year for 2014 even though neither one of them did squat just because of sentimental reasons.   The MLB All Star game comes to mind decades ago when Mike Schmidt got voted into the game by the fans when he hadn't even played that year!

 

That being said, it really doesn't matter that much how it's done people will still think it was done the wrong way and somebody got cheated.   Kind of like getting drivers inducted into the NSCHoF.

 

 



larryitis
October 26, 2014 at 08:32:04 AM
Joined: 12/21/2010
Posts: 840
Reply

Dryslick WIllie over there^ has a point, but I'll play along anyway. I don't exactly have much to do at this very moment.

driver of the year; Donny Schatz. pretty hard to argue with this one. honorable mention; Christopher Bell, Rico Abreu

promoter of the year; Steve Sinclair. I'm totally biased. I rarely get out of WI to see a race. Occasional trip to knoxville or eldora but that's it. I think Steve does the most with the least, and the IRA had a very entertaining year with good cars/drivers/etc. they went to so new tracks, revisited some they hadn't been to in many years.

best all around track; Knoxville. who else would it be? I believe the HOF/museum puts them everybody else in the country.

driver that has done the most (this is a terribly ambiguous wording); Brian Brown. simply because I think he is the most outgoing, personable driver at the track always. I would like to hear about other drivers that are quick to help out a competitor as well. to me that really makes a driver standout.


Follow me on the social medias! ; twitter - 
larryitis   Facebook - Michael Collins 


larryitis
October 26, 2014 at 08:32:43 AM
Joined: 12/21/2010
Posts: 840
Reply

hey look, football is on!


Follow me on the social medias! ; twitter - 
larryitis   Facebook - Michael Collins 

winning drive
MyWebsite
October 26, 2014 at 10:50:27 AM
Joined: 06/22/2014
Posts: 211
Reply
Reply to:
Posted By: Dryslick Willie on October 26 2014 at 07:27:06 AM

I think those awards should be decided by people who can decide those things in an objective way as to who really deserves them.   And I hate to burst your bubble, but that ain't the fans.   Objectivity and common sense go out the window where fan votes are involved.   People would probably vote Steve or Sammy in as driver of the year for 2014 even though neither one of them did squat just because of sentimental reasons.   The MLB All Star game comes to mind decades ago when Mike Schmidt got voted into the game by the fans when he hadn't even played that year!

 

That being said, it really doesn't matter that much how it's done people will still think it was done the wrong way and somebody got cheated.   Kind of like getting drivers inducted into the NSCHoF.

 

 



I respect your pinion  Mr. Willie  , but don't agree with you  , as the media  people  don't know  any better  then the loyal fans  . We  can be objective  as  well , you  know  even the people  who are  in the know  can get  it wrong  as well , because  I've seen it happen  in several cases.  I just think it would be  good if fans  were  heard  on different  things as we  are  paying  the admissions  .



Dryslick Willie
October 26, 2014 at 12:37:29 PM
Joined: 12/17/2009
Posts: 2257
Reply
Reply to:
Posted By: winning drive on October 26 2014 at 10:50:27 AM

I respect your pinion  Mr. Willie  , but don't agree with you  , as the media  people  don't know  any better  then the loyal fans  . We  can be objective  as  well , you  know  even the people  who are  in the know  can get  it wrong  as well , because  I've seen it happen  in several cases.  I just think it would be  good if fans  were  heard  on different  things as we  are  paying  the admissions  .



Does Brad Doty impress you as someone who might know better than the average fan?    Sorry, but by percentage very few fans are going to be objective.   The biggest majority of them are just going to vote for their personal favorites no matter what.   Sorry if you don't agree, but that's just the reality of it. 




kossuth
October 26, 2014 at 05:43:32 PM
Joined: 11/02/2013
Posts: 529
Reply

410 driver Shatz

Can't say on the 358/360 and 305 ranks

Promoter. I would say it would have to go to one of two groups. The folks that have lifted Atomic from the dead or the Lincoln speedway folks for putting on the Kasey Kayne classic.  Both were tough deals to stand up and were very successful for their first to around. 



oswald
October 26, 2014 at 07:37:22 PM
Joined: 11/30/2004
Posts: 1995
Reply
Reply to:
Posted By: winning drive on October 26 2014 at 01:46:01 AM

Are   you interested  in deciding   the  following  --the driver  of the  year  , the  promoter  of the  year , the best  all around    track , and  who has  done the most   for  racing  ?  these  awards  should be  selected   by   you the  Fans  not  the  media members  or  even  the  Hall  of fame .  What   do  you think ?



No, I would not. All that stuff is just a matter of opinion. Fan votes always become nothing but a popularity contest. Most vote for their favorite driver no matter if he has done anything to deserve an award or not.



Dryslick Willie
October 26, 2014 at 07:51:55 PM
Joined: 12/17/2009
Posts: 2257
Reply
Reply to:
Posted By: oswald on October 26 2014 at 07:37:22 PM

No, I would not. All that stuff is just a matter of opinion. Fan votes always become nothing but a popularity contest. Most vote for their favorite driver no matter if he has done anything to deserve an award or not.



Exactly right Oswald!    Geez, wish I had thought of that!!!  LMAO




racerman454
MyWebsite
October 26, 2014 at 09:34:18 PM
Joined: 04/14/2007
Posts: 402
Reply

410 Driver of the Year: Donny Schatz

Best all around track is Kokomo Speedway.

Danny Dietrich does the most for Racing from a Driver stand point with not being afraid to voice his opinion no matter the issue. 

Promoter of the Year has to be the guy at Cocopah Speedway. Cant think of his name but he has created a nice Winter Series with a lot of interest and actually keeping some American Drivers in the States.



harriet_othelo
October 26, 2014 at 10:07:25 PM
Joined: 05/27/2007
Posts: 207
Reply
Reply to:
Posted By: winning drive on October 26 2014 at 01:46:01 AM

Are   you interested  in deciding   the  following  --the driver  of the  year  , the  promoter  of the  year , the best  all around    track , and  who has  done the most   for  racing  ?  these  awards  should be  selected   by   you the  Fans  not  the  media members  or  even  the  Hall  of fame .  What   do  you think ?



At least members of the media can capitalize, spell & punctuate.



tenter
October 26, 2014 at 10:43:16 PM
Joined: 07/16/2008
Posts: 981
Reply

Who even cares about those awards?

 




vande77
October 27, 2014 at 07:52:54 AM
Joined: 01/20/2005
Posts: 2079
Reply
Reply to:
Posted By: winning drive on October 26 2014 at 01:46:01 AM

Are   you interested  in deciding   the  following  --the driver  of the  year  , the  promoter  of the  year , the best  all around    track , and  who has  done the most   for  racing  ?  these  awards  should be  selected   by   you the  Fans  not  the  media members  or  even  the  Hall  of fame .  What   do  you think ?



As a FAN, I think it's a terrible idea for us to be included because there would be a % of people that don't vote for a particular driver because of their personal dislike for them (nothing to do with their actual driving).

Some "fans" wouldn't vote for a particular promotor becuase an employee at a track they promote was rude to them 20 years ago or the old "I've never been to the "insert event here", so I can't rank it in my top 5, I can only rank those I've been to, so the regular races at Podunk Raceway are promoted by Billy Bob Earnhardt, he should be promoter of the year".  Industry types and media may not attend an event, but they know the signifigance of one event and how it's promoted over another (does the honor go to the promotor that came up with a $3000 to win race that 15 drivers participated in, 1500 people attended, had ZERO media coverage, and no one knew was going on, or a $10,000 to win race that 112 drivers participated in, 5000 people attended, had local, regional and non-industry media in attendance?

Never even heard of the "best all around track" award.

Contribution to the sport is a toughie, which is an even better reason for fans to not have a say.  We see things way different than the media and insustry types.  If it was a lifetime award, Steve Kinser would win this year (and that's more than likely how the fans would vote), but it's not, it's a YEARLY award, so it's based on the contributions THIS YEAR to help the sport grow.





Post Reply
You must be logged in to Post a Message.
Not a member register Here.
Already registered? Please Login





If you have a website and would like to set up a forum here at HoseHeadForums.com
please contact us by using the contact link at the top of the page.

© 2024 HoseHeadForums.com Privacy Policy