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mike_priefer
August 18, 2007 at 03:49:53 PM
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Gregg Bakker, Sioux Falls SD, was decalared the winner of the ASCS feature after race winner Chuck Swenson, Watertown SD, refused to have his motor inspected.

The 25-lap ASCS Sprint car feature race started out with a six car pile-up on the front straightaway which involved Casey Heser, Jackson MN, Mike Sitzman, Jr., Tappen ND, Lee Grosz, Harwood ND, Bill Boles, Harris IA, Chris Graf, Glencoe MN, and Curt Lund, Redwood Falls MN. Graf was taken to the hospital for tests but was conscious and talking to medical personal. Heser and Sitzman were also done, while Boles, Grosz, and Lund were able to restart the race. On the restart it was Chuck Swenson, getting the early lead from his pole starting position with Scott Winters, Butterfield MN, getting the second spot, and Shane Stewart, Indianapolis IN, getting the third spot. On lap two Stewart would get by Winters for the second spot. While working on lap three Stewart would spin in turn two, do a 360, and keep going, however he would loose several positions. As the race went on Swenson would start to pull away from the field as Winters ran second and Dave Glennon, Casselton ND, ran third. At the halfway point in the race fourth place running Gregg Bakker, Sioux Falls SD, would catch Glennon and move into the third spot on lap thirteen. When the race reached the two thirds mark, Winters had caught Swenson and attempted to make the pass, but Swenson kept him behind. With Winters still on Swenson’s back door Bakker, would catch up to the leaders and on the twenty second lap Bakker would move around Winters and take over second. On the white flag lap Bakker got high in turns one and two which allowed Winters to just about pass him but Bakker was able to maintain the position. As the checkered flag was displayed to the field Chuck Swenson crossed the finish line by a half a car length over Gregg Bakker. Bakker took second, followed by Scott Winters, Dave Glennon, Brian Brown, Grain Valley MO, Shane Stewart, Chad Meyer, Sioux Falls SD, Jesse Drost, Rushmore MN, Clint Garner, Sioux Falls SD, and Natalie Sather, Fargo ND. In post race inspection, Chuck Swenson’s motor was found to be questionable. ASCS officials impounded Swenson’s motor and will be tearing the motor down Saturday morning. The B feature was won by Gordy Vogelaar, Worthington MN, with the Dash going to Chuck Swenson. Heat races were won by Chad Meyer, Shane Stewart, Gregg Bakker, and Scott Winters. The top four finishers of the A Feature, once an official finish is determined, will be locked into the pole dash for Saturday’s $5000 to win Jackson Nationals Championship.

UNOFFICIAL RESULTS for ASCS Sprints:
Pending X motor passing teardown inspection
ASCS Sprints (33 Cars)
A Feature (25 laps)
– 1. X Chuck Swenson, Watertown SD, 2. 11x Gregg Bakker, Sioux Falls SD, 3. R19 Scott Winters, Butterfield MN, 4. 5x Dave Glennon, Casselton ND, 5. 27 Brian Brown, Grain Valley MO, 6. 1 Shane Stewart, Indianapolis IN, 7. 7 Chad Meyer, Sioux Falls SD, 8. 24 Jesse Drost, Worthington MN, 9. 40 Clint Garner, Sioux Falls SD, 10. 94s Natalie Sather, Fargo ND, 11. 4J Lee Grosz, Harwood ND, 12. 99v Gordy Vogelaar, Worthington MN, 13. 05 Bill Boles, Harris IA, 14. 99 Shawn Van Wyhe, Rock Rapids IA, 15. 2D Bryan Dobesh, Sioux Falls SD (DNF), 16. 18 Russell Wiese, Lake Park IA (DNF), 17. 87 Curt Lund, Redwood Falls MN (DNF), 18. 20G Chris Graf, Glencoe MN (DNF), 19. 75c Casey Heser, Jackson MN (DNF), 20. 92 Mike Sitzman, Jr., Tappen ND (DNF)
B Feature (12 laps – top 4 transfer) – 1. Vogelaar, 2. Heser, 3. Dobesh, 4. Sitzman, 5. 5T Mark Toews, Spirit Lake IA, 6. 75 Brandon Geldner, St. Peter MN, 7. 11M Troy Meyer, Sioux Falls SD, 8. 20 Eric Lutz, Sioux City IA, 9. 1W Mitch Runge, Sioux Falls SD, 10. 15 Joe Riedel, Harrisburg SD, 11. 1HD Jake Leighty, Worthington MN, 12. 22 Nick Lusk, Jackson MN, 13. 0x Brandon Mills, Rapid City SD, 14. 1B Brett Geldner, St. Peter MN (DNF), Did Not Start: 62 Jerry Richert, Jr., Forest Lake MN & 18H Tony Hargrave, North Branch MN
Dash (5 laps) – 1. Swenson, 2. Winters, 3. Meyer, 4. Stewart, 5. Bakker, 6. Boles
Heat 1 (8 laps) – 1. Meyer, 2. Wiese, 3. Grosz, 4. Lund, 5. Sitzman
Heat 2 – 1. Stewart, 2. Swenson, 3. Sather, 4. Van Wyhe, 5. Graf
Heat 3 – 1. Bakker, 2. Boles, 3. Drost, 4. Garner, 5. Brandon Geldner
Heat 4 – 1. Winters, 2. Glennon, 3. Brown, 4. Richert, 5. Vogelaar

 

copied from www.jacksonspeedway.com


Mike "Pencil" Priefer


neilstevens2
August 18, 2007 at 04:50:27 PM
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Posted By: mike_priefer on August 18 2007 at 03:49:53 PM

Gregg Bakker, Sioux Falls SD, was decalared the winner of the ASCS feature after race winner Chuck Swenson, Watertown SD, refused to have his motor inspected.

The 25-lap ASCS Sprint car feature race started out with a six car pile-up on the front straightaway which involved Casey Heser, Jackson MN, Mike Sitzman, Jr., Tappen ND, Lee Grosz, Harwood ND, Bill Boles, Harris IA, Chris Graf, Glencoe MN, and Curt Lund, Redwood Falls MN. Graf was taken to the hospital for tests but was conscious and talking to medical personal. Heser and Sitzman were also done, while Boles, Grosz, and Lund were able to restart the race. On the restart it was Chuck Swenson, getting the early lead from his pole starting position with Scott Winters, Butterfield MN, getting the second spot, and Shane Stewart, Indianapolis IN, getting the third spot. On lap two Stewart would get by Winters for the second spot. While working on lap three Stewart would spin in turn two, do a 360, and keep going, however he would loose several positions. As the race went on Swenson would start to pull away from the field as Winters ran second and Dave Glennon, Casselton ND, ran third. At the halfway point in the race fourth place running Gregg Bakker, Sioux Falls SD, would catch Glennon and move into the third spot on lap thirteen. When the race reached the two thirds mark, Winters had caught Swenson and attempted to make the pass, but Swenson kept him behind. With Winters still on Swenson’s back door Bakker, would catch up to the leaders and on the twenty second lap Bakker would move around Winters and take over second. On the white flag lap Bakker got high in turns one and two which allowed Winters to just about pass him but Bakker was able to maintain the position. As the checkered flag was displayed to the field Chuck Swenson crossed the finish line by a half a car length over Gregg Bakker. Bakker took second, followed by Scott Winters, Dave Glennon, Brian Brown, Grain Valley MO, Shane Stewart, Chad Meyer, Sioux Falls SD, Jesse Drost, Rushmore MN, Clint Garner, Sioux Falls SD, and Natalie Sather, Fargo ND. In post race inspection, Chuck Swenson’s motor was found to be questionable. ASCS officials impounded Swenson’s motor and will be tearing the motor down Saturday morning. The B feature was won by Gordy Vogelaar, Worthington MN, with the Dash going to Chuck Swenson. Heat races were won by Chad Meyer, Shane Stewart, Gregg Bakker, and Scott Winters. The top four finishers of the A Feature, once an official finish is determined, will be locked into the pole dash for Saturday’s $5000 to win Jackson Nationals Championship.

UNOFFICIAL RESULTS for ASCS Sprints:
Pending X motor passing teardown inspection
ASCS Sprints (33 Cars)
A Feature (25 laps)
– 1. X Chuck Swenson, Watertown SD, 2. 11x Gregg Bakker, Sioux Falls SD, 3. R19 Scott Winters, Butterfield MN, 4. 5x Dave Glennon, Casselton ND, 5. 27 Brian Brown, Grain Valley MO, 6. 1 Shane Stewart, Indianapolis IN, 7. 7 Chad Meyer, Sioux Falls SD, 8. 24 Jesse Drost, Worthington MN, 9. 40 Clint Garner, Sioux Falls SD, 10. 94s Natalie Sather, Fargo ND, 11. 4J Lee Grosz, Harwood ND, 12. 99v Gordy Vogelaar, Worthington MN, 13. 05 Bill Boles, Harris IA, 14. 99 Shawn Van Wyhe, Rock Rapids IA, 15. 2D Bryan Dobesh, Sioux Falls SD (DNF), 16. 18 Russell Wiese, Lake Park IA (DNF), 17. 87 Curt Lund, Redwood Falls MN (DNF), 18. 20G Chris Graf, Glencoe MN (DNF), 19. 75c Casey Heser, Jackson MN (DNF), 20. 92 Mike Sitzman, Jr., Tappen ND (DNF)
B Feature (12 laps – top 4 transfer) – 1. Vogelaar, 2. Heser, 3. Dobesh, 4. Sitzman, 5. 5T Mark Toews, Spirit Lake IA, 6. 75 Brandon Geldner, St. Peter MN, 7. 11M Troy Meyer, Sioux Falls SD, 8. 20 Eric Lutz, Sioux City IA, 9. 1W Mitch Runge, Sioux Falls SD, 10. 15 Joe Riedel, Harrisburg SD, 11. 1HD Jake Leighty, Worthington MN, 12. 22 Nick Lusk, Jackson MN, 13. 0x Brandon Mills, Rapid City SD, 14. 1B Brett Geldner, St. Peter MN (DNF), Did Not Start: 62 Jerry Richert, Jr., Forest Lake MN & 18H Tony Hargrave, North Branch MN
Dash (5 laps) – 1. Swenson, 2. Winters, 3. Meyer, 4. Stewart, 5. Bakker, 6. Boles
Heat 1 (8 laps) – 1. Meyer, 2. Wiese, 3. Grosz, 4. Lund, 5. Sitzman
Heat 2 – 1. Stewart, 2. Swenson, 3. Sather, 4. Van Wyhe, 5. Graf
Heat 3 – 1. Bakker, 2. Boles, 3. Drost, 4. Garner, 5. Brandon Geldner
Heat 4 – 1. Winters, 2. Glennon, 3. Brown, 4. Richert, 5. Vogelaar

 

copied from www.jacksonspeedway.com



so has it been made official that the X was illegal.



87lundfan
August 18, 2007 at 04:57:38 PM
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yes. He refused to have his motor tore down.




neilstevens2
August 18, 2007 at 09:47:41 PM
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Posted By: 87lundfan on August 18 2007 at 04:57:38 PM

yes. He refused to have his motor tore down.



so how many times will ascs allow him and lanman to get caught cheating before they say enough and not allow him to race ascs? anyone know?



herman327
August 19, 2007 at 08:33:59 AM
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Its about time they do something and make it stick! rumor has it he was pist on friday night and said hes never coming back to jackson. maybe if he wouldn't cheat he'd be left alone. he made his own reputation and now he has to live with it!



buell1
August 19, 2007 at 09:21:02 AM
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Come on Lanman, defend him this time




leadfoot2
August 19, 2007 at 12:06:49 PM
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This message was edited on August 19, 2007 at 12:15:02 PM by leadfoot2

hey bottlerocket!!! fall off any forklifts lately? y don't you use your millions you fell so hard for and buy him a legal motor then.



motorman
August 19, 2007 at 12:45:35 PM
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This message was edited on August 19, 2007 at 12:54:21 PM by motorman

No one was mad at jackson or ascs officials. Just didnt want to spend the money to send motor back to put heads and inj. back on. Just shipping motor back and forth is over a $1000.00. CZ will tell you nobody was mad at anyboy. CZ didnt think it would pass inspection so decided not to tear it apart.



jwerkman
August 19, 2007 at 01:23:02 PM
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wonerhow legal h was te week before? when he won.

leads one to wonder


 


z-man
August 19, 2007 at 01:31:25 PM
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Motorman is exactly right on his statement...CZ



sprntr
August 19, 2007 at 02:04:40 PM
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This message was edited on August 19, 2007 at 08:26:58 PM by sprntr
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Posted By: z-man on August 19 2007 at 01:31:25 PM

Motorman is exactly right on his statement...CZ



So what is the penalty for refusing teardown?



Graphix4u
August 19, 2007 at 04:37:02 PM
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Who builds Swenson's engines?




neilstevens2
August 19, 2007 at 05:07:25 PM
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Posted By: buell1 on August 19 2007 at 09:21:02 AM

Come on Lanman, defend him this time



yea thats a good point on whether he was illegal the week before as well. or illegal in every race they ran this year. i guess we'll all have to wonder. hmmm



ddca4
August 19, 2007 at 05:52:02 PM
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The whole thing is kind of interesting, I mean what happens now? The A.S.C.S tech people must have found something questionable to want to tear it down, they refused the tear down so now what; do they run it again at a different track? I would think they would want it looked at to make sure it was legal, unless they already knew it wasn't.

Motorman says nobody was mad , What about all the guys that got beat by that motor. CZ said he didn't think it would pass inspection does that make it illegal or is that just CZ's opinion? This whole deal needs to be resolved one way or the other or it will keep happening.

If you run an illegal motor isn't it kind of like stealing prize money, points, and championships from your fellow racers?

If you win illegaly what did you really win.



trigger20
August 19, 2007 at 05:58:47 PM
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Posted By: Graphix4u on August 19 2007 at 04:37:02 PM

Who builds Swenson's engines?



Charlie Fischer engines Columbus Ohio, I believe.




nightwork
August 19, 2007 at 06:19:35 PM
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They take serial numbers off all heads inspected so if they show up with them again all the officials have to do is read the numbers and they will know if its a different motor.They must have a legal motor because they passed inspection at atleast 2 national events last spring and they tech harder than anyone. Neil Stevens what good will it do to sit around and wonder about it. Will it change anything, or are you just trying to start something with lanman again. lol



throttle
August 19, 2007 at 08:48:27 PM
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Once a cheater, always a cheater. How many times can you get caught before ASCS no longer allows you to race?? I would think some type of suspension should be handed down for not allowing teardown.



apprentice
August 19, 2007 at 10:29:00 PM
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It really is a bunch of crap. Take all of his points for the whole season. Have some balls ASCS. Personally I think the whole ascs thing sucks. Why limit heads to a certain manufacturer and then not police it? Oh that's right, we are making the rules so that everyone is about the same and that will lead to close competition. How many years has this type of cheating been going on? I heard just recently that there are quite a few guys that run Jackson that have heads that wouldn't pass inspection and they were all built by a local builder. Maybe rumors, but sometimes when there's smoke there's fire. How long will it take for people to realize that ascs really isn't all about getting everyone on a level playing field so that it is a good show for the fans. I have an idea. 23 degree heads with a 2.00 inch restrictor in the stacks. KISS. Keep It Simple Stupid. If you're going to make a rule you d*mn well better be ready to enforce it. Period the end!




neilstevens2
August 20, 2007 at 09:06:15 AM
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Posted By: nightwork on August 19 2007 at 06:19:35 PM

They take serial numbers off all heads inspected so if they show up with them again all the officials have to do is read the numbers and they will know if its a different motor.They must have a legal motor because they passed inspection at atleast 2 national events last spring and they tech harder than anyone. Neil Stevens what good will it do to sit around and wonder about it. Will it change anything, or are you just trying to start something with lanman again. lol



the reason i wonder is because i heard that this was a new way of checking the heads that found the ports too big. a tool made so that its not supposed to have room to move around in there. and it was definitely able to move so that made it illegal. just what i heard. cz could pry clarify that. as far as the cheating my bet is that ascs will continue to find ways to catch all that cheat. they are good people that have worked hard to put this deal together. they've been around the block alot of times and it shows cuz they're drawing cars and people. we're lucky to have ascs!



Graphix4u
August 20, 2007 at 08:55:18 PM
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  If someone gets caught with illegal ASCS heads, fine the driver $2000 and take his illegal heads. Seems pretty simple to me.





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