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SUCKS.

Not if your good at qualifying. It's sad that u can win a championship on qualifying points,but I guess now it doesn't matter if you race good & win 21 races lmao. All you need to do is 2 good laps! Lmao

I have to agree,I'm a Pittman fan, no where near a Schatz fan, but no doubt Schatz should leading the points by a ton, they need to put more imphasis on racing than qualifying.

Heard they are going to a chase system like NASCAR next year, with the final ten shows in Pennsylvania to toughen things up.

 
 
 
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If your gonna have qualifying, you might as well make it worth something. It does set the order for the heats and I have noticed that Schatz almost always starts on the front row of his heat, which is the result of his qualifying from around 7th to 12th consistently, and runs top 2 which puts him in the dash. The last half of this year he has started in the front 2 rows of the dash almost every night due to that perfect draw. And he is good enough that when he starts up front he will win most of the time. He has the best crew chief in the business and is as good as or better than any driver on tour. That combination is tough to beat. Would love to see him with another crew chief and see if he still dominates.

bunch of cry babbies.

to indy and beyond!!

Drivers/teams try to handicap qualifying. Not many A mains are won from the fourth row on. With the the majority of cars even in speed its hard to finish in the top two spots when you qualify well and start in the second or third row for a ten lap heat. How many wins have there been this year by cars that didnt make the dash ? I dont have the exact stats but Paul Mcmahan has the most fast times but usually doesnt get to start in the first three rows of the dash. Do away with qualifying it doesnt prove anything on a track by yourself. Two heat races for each driver. You should have to race against other cars and pass for points and wins.

The woo points system is seriously flawed. I am a Pittman fan and do not like shatz, but there is no rhyme or reason shatz should not be leading the points other than way too much emphasis on qualifying. Quick time should be worth one bonus point... Cut and dry...

"a" main finishes and victories should bear the bulk of the emphasis with wins being worth the most.

There is equally too much emphasis on qualifying within the shows, especially when it comes to B-main transfers. The B main transfers should have to tag the tail of the "A" regardless of time. 

305's are the herpes of sprint cars

Please don't complain about it. Not saying that its not flawed but please keep in mind that the people in charge are idoits. The last thing we need them to do is use their brains to think up of a new system because then you are stuck with something called a chase.

Here's all the stats to date 

Schatz 21 wins, 42 top 5's, 56 top 10's

Pitman 8 wins, 43 top 5's, 56 top 10's

Laps lead- Schatz 395, Pitman 166

Fast Times- Pitman 13, Schatz 2

Dash wins- Schatz 8, Pitman 2

Heat race wins- Schatz 20, Pitman 10

Hardcharger Award- Schatz 10, Pitman 2

Spots Gained in A main- Schatz 261, Pitman 193

Spots lost in A main- Pitman 71, Schatz 102

So a guy leads nearly all the stats & still doesn't lead the points? Doesn't take a brain surgeon to work out their points system is flawed

Imagine if they did have a chase system, would Pitman bein the top 5 with 6 races to go?

http://woosprint.com/points/driver-standings

Daryn has 13 QT's x 5 points= 65

Donny has 2 QT's x 5 points = 15

Daryn 9429 - 65 = 9364

Donny 9377- 15 = 9362

He would still be leading points without the quick time awards.

Drop Time Trials altogether. Random draw for heat positions, then run back heats with total inversion. A Main field determined by composite Heat finishes. Double heats wouldn't take more time that TTs, more entertaining, rewards competitive driving.

Time trials are boring, only value I see in them are to learn drivers if you don't already know them

All they need to do is increase the point total for the winner.

Currently System only rewards the winner with a 4 point spread over second.

1 - 150

2 - 146

3 - 144 and each position drops by 2 points.

Give the winner an additional 5 points to make the win worth a little more.

I like the TT part of the race night, but the sytem needs to be tweaked a bit.

Lots of options available, but I would like to see what the majority of the touring teams think.

Jeff

That would work too. Under current system, if 2nd place car wins TTs, he gets more pts. than winner. I just think double heats would be more fun

You would have to add the points received for being 2nd through 5th in time trials also to show actual points earned qualifying.

Pittman 52 over Schatz after last Nite; so Pittman does NOT have it clinched yet !

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To use this method you would need to subtract all their 2nd Quicks (4 pts), 3rd Quicks (3 pts), etc...

And don't count Donny out yet. Let's not forget that two of the remaining races are at Williams Grove where he is as lights out as anybody.

2nd doesn't get more points than winner if winner is second fast. or third fast or 4th fast....or even 5th fast. or if second does't time in top 5. so stop trying that tactic of adding tt and main points to only the second place finisher while not to the winner.

all you people comparing top 5's and top 10's still don't consider that a second is still a top five as much as a 5th is a top five but fifth pays 6 points less. same with top 10's. a 6th and a 10th are both top 10 but 10th pays 8 points less. so an average finish in the top 10 of 6th would be worth more than an average top 10 of 9th.  all top five and top 10 finishes don't pay the same. 

seems donny has caught pitman by winning. pitman got a point jump early in the season by having better average finishes AND doing well in TT and donny is making up the ground at the end of the season.

TT pays the least amount of points for the night, with the least amount of point drop per position. wins pay the highest points with the highest point drop to the next position. it takes 30 fast times to equal one win........and you people are bitching.

to indy and beyond!!