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longtimemitchfan
September 11, 2013 at 04:34:16 PM
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I am looking forward to this years open at Slinsgrove as last years may have been the best race of the year. fOR SOME REASON IT LOOKS LIKE THE CAR COUNT MAY BE WAY DOWN AS SEVERAL TEAMS ARE STAYING HOME OR GOING ELSEWHERE FOR LESS MONEY. $12,000.00 to win and $700.00 to start plus lap money what more can they do to get the cars to come?




trecraft
September 11, 2013 at 10:20:08 PM
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I am looking forward to this years open at Slinsgrove as last years may have been the best race of the year. fOR SOME REASON IT LOOKS LIKE THE CAR COUNT MAY BE WAY DOWN AS SEVERAL TEAMS ARE STAYING HOME OR GOING ELSEWHERE FOR LESS MONEY. $12,000.00 to win and $700.00 to start plus lap money what more can they do to get the cars to come?



Don't give a third of the purse to one team and half the purse to four teams and expect twenty other teams to get excited .



bmd5229
September 11, 2013 at 10:56:52 PM
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Usually am pretty excited for this race but I do fear the car counts will be low.  All though car counts being low do not effect the racing, still sucks to see such a big show have few cars.  I think you will see a couple of the high dollar teams but mostly low 410 budget high 358 budget teams with the exception of Rahmer, Hodnett, Middleswarth, Dewease and Wolfe, Monteith.




BStrawser26
September 12, 2013 at 03:57:40 AM
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This message was edited on September 12, 2013 at 08:53:37 AM by BStrawser26
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Posted By: trecraft on September 11 2013 at 10:20:08 PM

Don't give a third of the purse to one team and half the purse to four teams and expect twenty other teams to get excited .



 

Yes considering the Grove pays on a weekly basis

3,600.00 to win

  500.00 for 10th

  330.00 for 15th

  315.00 to start

Saturday night tracks pay around

3,200.00 or 3,000.00 to win

475.00 or 425.00 for 10th

285.00 or 280.00 for 15th

275.00 to start

 

There aren't many races in pa "non sactioned" that have a purse over 42,000.00 in addition to 300.00 for fast time and 1,936.00 lap money....44.00 to lead each lap....plus 100.00 to win each heat for a grand total over 44,500.00 payout for one night.  Selinsgrove is paying

12,000.00  to win  

1,100.00 for 10th

   850.00 for 15th

   700.00 to start


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

Stan Donnit
September 12, 2013 at 06:04:36 AM
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They could start by taking the beans out of the chili...Everyone knows that beans in chili is just bean soup... frown


Opinions may vary...

trecraft
September 12, 2013 at 11:06:00 AM
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Yes considering the Grove pays on a weekly basis

3,600.00 to win

  500.00 for 10th

  330.00 for 15th

  315.00 to start

Saturday night tracks pay around

3,200.00 or 3,000.00 to win

475.00 or 425.00 for 10th

285.00 or 280.00 for 15th

275.00 to start

 

There aren't many races in pa "non sactioned" that have a purse over 42,000.00 in addition to 300.00 for fast time and 1,936.00 lap money....44.00 to lead each lap....plus 100.00 to win each heat for a grand total over 44,500.00 payout for one night.  Selinsgrove is paying

12,000.00  to win  

1,100.00 for 10th

   850.00 for 15th

   700.00 to start



Apples and oranges.  Weekly show versus special show.  Enjoy the show.  It should be great.




BStrawser26
September 12, 2013 at 11:35:19 AM
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Posted By: trecraft on September 12 2013 at 11:06:00 AM

Apples and oranges.  Weekly show versus special show.  Enjoy the show.  It should be great.



I might not be going....but it is not apple and oranges....this is the 2nd highest non sactioned paying show "total purse" in PA during the year.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

trecraft
September 12, 2013 at 12:59:52 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on September 12 2013 at 11:35:19 AM

I might not be going....but it is not apple and oranges....this is the 2nd highest non sactioned paying show "total purse" in PA during the year.



You're right.  Never thought of giving a greater percentage of the total purse to the winner.  That should work.



BStrawser26
September 12, 2013 at 01:28:30 PM
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This message was edited on September 12, 2013 at 01:36:49 PM by BStrawser26
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Posted By: trecraft on September 12 2013 at 12:59:52 PM

You're right.  Never thought of giving a greater percentage of the total purse to the winner.  That should work.




Look at the 50 ran at Port Royal a very simular purse that Selinsgrove has this week....only Selinsgrove is paying more back through the pack.  Port will not make it public what they are paying for second and third...... Here is part of a press release from Port.

Saturday's 46th annual Tuscarora 50 will offer a one-night purse of nearly $42,000 including a paid B Main, $12,000 to the winner and $500 just to start the prestigious.

 

BTW the outlaws top 5 shares about 50% of the total purse night in and night out!!

Selinsgroves top 5 are going to share 58% of the total purse....something simular to that of Port.  It is like that in every big show not just one.  Look at the kings Royal 50,000 Grand to win and 12,500 for second.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!


trecraft
September 12, 2013 at 02:51:47 PM
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Look at the 50 ran at Port Royal a very simular purse that Selinsgrove has this week....only Selinsgrove is paying more back through the pack.  Port will not make it public what they are paying for second and third...... Here is part of a press release from Port.

Saturday's 46th annual Tuscarora 50 will offer a one-night purse of nearly $42,000 including a paid B Main, $12,000 to the winner and $500 just to start the prestigious.

 

BTW the outlaws top 5 shares about 50% of the total purse night in and night out!!

Selinsgroves top 5 are going to share 58% of the total purse....something simular to that of Port.  It is like that in every big show not just one.  Look at the kings Royal 50,000 Grand to win and 12,500 for second.



I never went to the King's Royal for that reason.  Too much to one position.  But I did go to the Mopar Million because it was $10,000 to start. And that seemed fair.   And now I can take comfort in knowing that Selinsgroves  bottom 19 will share 42 % of the total purse.  Nuf sed.



BStrawser26
September 12, 2013 at 03:11:24 PM
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Posted By: trecraft on September 12 2013 at 02:51:47 PM

I never went to the King's Royal for that reason.  Too much to one position.  But I did go to the Mopar Million because it was $10,000 to start. And that seemed fair.   And now I can take comfort in knowing that Selinsgroves  bottom 19 will share 42 % of the total purse.  Nuf sed.



I bet the top 5 at the mopar million got the lion shares of the purse.  If I remember right the winner got "Wildchild" 200,000 and Stevie Smith ran second and got 125,000  and Gaines 100,000 for third and that is that is 42.25% of the total purse so 57.75% went to the bottom 21 racers.  Like I said it happens in every race!!

I am not sure what 4th got but I would be willing to bet it was around 75,000 and that would take it up to 50% of the total purse....and let the bottom 20 share 50% of the purse.  All purses are top heavy always have been and always will be.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

longtimemitchfan
September 12, 2013 at 03:43:21 PM
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Considering 12th place still pays around $1000.00 I dont see how the purse could be much better. Glad to see that now Rahmer and Ryan Smith are planning to come but it looks like no Stevie Smith,and 28 of the 42 cars that ran Port last week most likely will not be there.




BStrawser26
September 12, 2013 at 04:29:07 PM
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Posted By: longtimemitchfan on September 12 2013 at 03:43:21 PM

Considering 12th place still pays around $1000.00 I dont see how the purse could be much better. Glad to see that now Rahmer and Ryan Smith are planning to come but it looks like no Stevie Smith,and 28 of the 42 cars that ran Port last week most likely will not be there.



His press release on facebook from Sept 9th said he was going to be at Selinsgrove....and Port had 39 cars on Friday and 40 on Saturday.  Not that it matters.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

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Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

BStrawser26
September 12, 2013 at 04:33:56 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on September 12 2013 at 03:11:24 PM

I bet the top 5 at the mopar million got the lion shares of the purse.  If I remember right the winner got "Wildchild" 200,000 and Stevie Smith ran second and got 125,000  and Gaines 100,000 for third and that is that is 42.25% of the total purse so 57.75% went to the bottom 21 racers.  Like I said it happens in every race!!

I am not sure what 4th got but I would be willing to bet it was around 75,000 and that would take it up to 50% of the total purse....and let the bottom 20 share 50% of the purse.  All purses are top heavy always have been and always will be.



Just found Yelley got 60,000 for 4th and Cheaney go 35,000 for 5th and there were 26 cars that started the race..so that is 520,000 for the top 5 positons. So that is 52% for the top 5 and the other 21 cars only got 48%.  


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

longtimemitchfan
September 12, 2013 at 04:45:07 PM
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I am just going by drivers schedules on their sites and Stevies next race races are at the Grove and Lincoln.
Other driver like Nicole Bower,Cisney and the Coldren cars have no races scheduled.

Port had 3 different cars on Saturday which made 42 for the two nights.




BStrawser26
September 12, 2013 at 04:50:32 PM
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Posted By: longtimemitchfan on September 12 2013 at 04:45:07 PM

I am just going by drivers schedules on their sites and Stevies next race races are at the Grove and Lincoln.
Other driver like Nicole Bower,Cisney and the Coldren cars have no races scheduled.

Port had 3 different cars on Saturday which made 42 for the two nights.



Out of the 3 of those I would say Cisney would be the one to show at Selinsgrove...but who knows.  


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

HoldenCaulfield
September 12, 2013 at 05:15:47 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on September 12 2013 at 11:35:19 AM

I might not be going....but it is not apple and oranges....this is the 2nd highest non sactioned paying show "total purse" in PA during the year.



I believe this would be the highest non-sanctioned race in PA by a long shot. Only the Williams Grove National Open, Don Martin Memorial and maybe the Williams Grove Summer Nats are higher, but are all sanctioned by the WOO. I would hope that such a good paying race that honors a great guy like Jim Nace would draw a stellar field, but some drivers don't like the high corner speeds and multi-groove racing that Selinsgrove offers. It's a shame if the teams don't support it because it would most likely be gone in a couple years, but I think they will get around 30 cars which is enough for a good show. Everyone worries about the turnout for the 410 races at Selinsgrove but when the gates open, it's usually more than a full field.


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HoldenCaulfield
September 12, 2013 at 05:17:59 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on September 12 2013 at 04:50:32 PM

Out of the 3 of those I would say Cisney would be the one to show at Selinsgrove...but who knows.  



Nicole has been to the last 2 and set fast time 2 years ago. She also lists Selinsgrove as her favorite track.


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PatCannonfan
September 12, 2013 at 05:19:11 PM
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Stevie WILL be there!



bmd5229
September 12, 2013 at 06:10:37 PM
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Posted By: PatCannonfan on September 12 2013 at 05:19:11 PM


Stevie WILL be there!



may I ask what car he will be driving because as of 2-3 days ago, CJB listen on their Facebook they parted ways with Stevie Smith.





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