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racerman454
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July 16, 2013 at 12:09:21 AM
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I am glad to see that The Cushion is providing live video for all four nights of The Nationals, but is there a reason it is 124 bucks to watch online ? Seems a bit outrageous to me.




Desflur
July 16, 2013 at 12:15:29 AM
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The price you pay to stay home to watch it. Sounds kinda high but it cost alot to put the races on all year long. It's money well spent in my opinion if you can't be there in person. Hate to see anyone have to watch it at home. Come enjoy the fun. 



racerman454
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July 16, 2013 at 12:21:01 AM
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I wish I could, trust me. Id Love to be there.




Desflur
July 16, 2013 at 12:24:25 AM
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I know man I hate missing it. Every year I get to go is a BONUS in my book 



johngr24
July 16, 2013 at 04:13:22 AM
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$124 doesnt even cover 4 nights in the North Campground unless your sleeping in a tent... Then add 40+ a ticket per night, food, other entertainment.... Not to mention gas wherever your coming to and from... I'd say its a bargain if your not able to go... Plus remember your buddies can come over and watch it as well.... Split it up if need be! Most Laptops nowdays have a HDMI hookup, plug it straight into your tv and its almost like sitting on the front stretch, only your eyes arent as free to roam as being there. But I also understand some people honestly cant afford even the asking price. For those people, check out KNIA KRLS they have race talk most of the day during the nationals as well as broadcast the races themselves which is only audio. But hey its America, you get what you can pay for or can afford. (Lets not start a political debate on the last statement, I was meaning about THIS situation)



vande77
July 16, 2013 at 07:55:58 AM
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Why should you get to watch it for Free or a reduced rate at home while fans in attendance have to pay?

People complain about lack of TV coverage for Sprint Car Racing, but don't realize that by not attending the events LIVE (ie:  selling out the joint), is the reason why TV coverage has all but disappeared for anything not named NASCAR in the auto racing world.

Why would a sponsor want to put something on TV that people won't come to the racetrack to watch LIVE?  Answer, they don't.

To me, $124 seems like a bargain (I spent $300+ on tickets for myself and my 10 year old son), to stay home and watch it, I would save nearly $200, not to mention my concessions, gas $$$, T-shirts, etc., etc..

Maybe I'm oversimplifying it, but I guess no one realizes that part of the reason why there is no longer TV for the Nationals is because people quit coming to the races because they could watch it on TV @ home, or in their camper, or at a friends house and not have to shell out any $$$.




CSMoses
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July 16, 2013 at 07:59:49 AM
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"Maybe I'm oversimplifying it, but I guess no one realizes that part of the reason why there is no longer TV for the Nationals is because people quit coming to the races because they could watch it on TV". 

I'm confused by the logic here. 



vande77
July 16, 2013 at 08:52:21 AM
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Posted By: CSMoses on July 16 2013 at 07:59:49 AM

"Maybe I'm oversimplifying it, but I guess no one realizes that part of the reason why there is no longer TV for the Nationals is because people quit coming to the races because they could watch it on TV". 

I'm confused by the logic here. 




The raceway quit spending the $400,000 it costs to put the event on TV because attendance started to decline (and people that did buy tickets in the past quit buying Saturday night tickets becuase they could watch for FREE sitting in their camper or just drive home and watch it when it was broadcast on SPEED).

By charging you to watch it on TV (or your computer), some of those fans will return to the track on Saturday instead, while others will now have to pay to watch it. (the bottom line is that only hardcore sprint fans were watching ANY broadcast of Sprint Car racing, ratings were not increasing, they were the same year over year over year)

While PPV will not increase the fanbase for Sprint car racing, it will help keep tracks from shutting down.  Why would anyone pay to attend the event live if they could get it for FREE on TV or the internet?  Answer is:  they wouldn't.

I'll put it to you this way.  You live 200 miles from Knoxville and you choice 25 years ago used to be (1) buy a ticket and drive up and attend or (2) miss the races.  15 years ago it became (1) buy a ticket and drive up and attend, (2) watch for FREE on TV or (3) miss the races.  5 years ago it became (1) buy a ticket and drive up and attend, (2) watch for FREE on TV (tape delayed), (3) buy it on live streaming and watch on your PC or (4) miss the races.  Today your choices are (1) buy a ticket and attend live, (2) buy it on live streaming and watch on your PC or TV if you have it set up correctly or (3) miss the races.

Around 10 years ago is when attendance started to really decline and FREE Live TV had an effect as to that attendance.  By eliminating that option, there is more incentive for people to attend the event LIVE (especially for those that used to attend but quit going ONLY because they could watch for FREE on television).

Eliminating the FREE TV option is the best thing Knoxville has done IMO over the last 10 years (maybe more).  It makes Saturday night an EVENT again instead of the PAYING FANS having to wait for TV and the TV schedule dictating how the night proceeded (I remember waiting over an HOUR between the D and C mains and the B and A mains one year because the TV schedule didn't have the A-main scheduled to take the track until 11 PM local time (take TV away and the entire night would have been completed no later than 10 PM).



CSMoses
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July 16, 2013 at 09:13:35 AM
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So does this logic only apply to racing? Because I'd venture to guess that other sporting events that are shown on live TV don't suffer any sort of attendance drop. 




vande77
July 16, 2013 at 09:46:14 AM
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Posted By: CSMoses on July 16 2013 at 09:13:35 AM

So does this logic only apply to racing? Because I'd venture to guess that other sporting events that are shown on live TV don't suffer any sort of attendance drop. 




Funny, I was listening to ESPN radio yesterday and they were talking about how attendance is dropping at MLB games due to over-saturation of the TV games (used to be that very few games were on TV, now hardly any AREN'T shown on TV).

EVERY sport is going through this issue (even the mighly NFL).  NASCAR is taking seats OUT of the racetracks, Ratings are going down, and the fans are complaining about how TV dictates the events (or how they are shown on TV), the NFL is starting to black-out games again (they did last season) because the teams can no longer sell out their stadiums, TV viewership is way up, but when fans stop attending the games live, that is an issue (and the NFL knows it), MLB is going through a crisis currently (between the lack of offense, steriod use, and declining attendance).  The NHL is starting to make strides (it's still way better to attend in person), as the addition of High Definition television actually made their broadcasts MUCH better.  However, they are still a sport where being there live is wayyyyy better than watching on TV.



opnwhlr
July 16, 2013 at 09:59:11 AM
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I will be happy to pay the money to watch the Nationals once they perfect internet televising.  To me it is much too risky at this time to pay that amount.

One can simply log on to the WoO live feed and get results within seconds of things happening.

I read a headline a few days ago that Senator McCain is going after the NFL over their black out rules.

I do agree that major sports have become over saturated.  Day and night you can find many games on TV...especially if you have cable or satellite.


 
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Paintboss
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July 16, 2013 at 11:15:16 AM
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Posted By: vande77 on July 16 2013 at 08:52:21 AM


The raceway quit spending the $400,000 it costs to put the event on TV because attendance started to decline (and people that did buy tickets in the past quit buying Saturday night tickets becuase they could watch for FREE sitting in their camper or just drive home and watch it when it was broadcast on SPEED).

By charging you to watch it on TV (or your computer), some of those fans will return to the track on Saturday instead, while others will now have to pay to watch it. (the bottom line is that only hardcore sprint fans were watching ANY broadcast of Sprint Car racing, ratings were not increasing, they were the same year over year over year)

While PPV will not increase the fanbase for Sprint car racing, it will help keep tracks from shutting down.  Why would anyone pay to attend the event live if they could get it for FREE on TV or the internet?  Answer is:  they wouldn't.

I'll put it to you this way.  You live 200 miles from Knoxville and you choice 25 years ago used to be (1) buy a ticket and drive up and attend or (2) miss the races.  15 years ago it became (1) buy a ticket and drive up and attend, (2) watch for FREE on TV or (3) miss the races.  5 years ago it became (1) buy a ticket and drive up and attend, (2) watch for FREE on TV (tape delayed), (3) buy it on live streaming and watch on your PC or (4) miss the races.  Today your choices are (1) buy a ticket and attend live, (2) buy it on live streaming and watch on your PC or TV if you have it set up correctly or (3) miss the races.

Around 10 years ago is when attendance started to really decline and FREE Live TV had an effect as to that attendance.  By eliminating that option, there is more incentive for people to attend the event LIVE (especially for those that used to attend but quit going ONLY because they could watch for FREE on television).

Eliminating the FREE TV option is the best thing Knoxville has done IMO over the last 10 years (maybe more).  It makes Saturday night an EVENT again instead of the PAYING FANS having to wait for TV and the TV schedule dictating how the night proceeded (I remember waiting over an HOUR between the D and C mains and the B and A mains one year because the TV schedule didn't have the A-main scheduled to take the track until 11 PM local time (take TV away and the entire night would have been completed no later than 10 PM).




AND we lost our Wet T-Shirt contest to make it TV Friendly! Lol..





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