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Todd Hoffman
July 10, 2007 at 11:14:47 AM
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Looking for results from Owatonna on July 9th.

Thanks

Todd

 




neilstevens2
July 10, 2007 at 03:25:52 PM
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Looking for results from Owatonna on July 9th.

Thanks

Todd

 



results from owatonna.....well they didn't let us finish the feature. there was a red flag after 12 laps of caution free racing and the owatonna promoters called the race. they claimed time was short after the sprint cars used up a whole 4 minutes getting lined up and racing 12 laps. so they scored us as 1)nate laugen 2)neil stevens 3)jenny erickson 4)jesse smith 5)bruce allen 6)billy johnson 7) troy 8)dwain wilmes 9)aj stevens unofficial of course apparently they don't like sprint cars there?



Todd Hoffman
July 10, 2007 at 04:28:09 PM
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This message was edited on July 10, 2007 at 04:28:54 PM by Todd Hoffman

ok....... was there a curfew issue or something? The promoter races a sprint car there..no? Maybe not IMCA but a sprint car none the less.

Thanks for the results Neil!




Steph D. Racefan
July 10, 2007 at 06:42:51 PM
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Just to clarify, the red came out after 13 laps of racing. The 00 of Brett Allen had hit the light pole in turn three, twisting the pole and making the lighting poor. This was obviously not intentional, but gave the promoters another problem to take care of before the curfew. The time was 10:20 and Owatonna has a curfew that the final race had to be started by 10:30. Scoring reviewed the changes in running order and the only changes in the running order was when the 5 car and 56 car got past the 21 on the 9th lap. The 18 had led since the drop of the green, pulled away from the 2 and 10. Over the final laps, the 2 and 10 were pulling closer, but were not within striking distance without a mistake by the 18.

All the features were shortened due to the time curfew Monday. Stocks shortened from 12 to 10, Midwest Mods from 15 to 12, Sprints from 18 to 15 (which actually became 13), and Late Models from 40 to 30.

If there was not the curfew, all classes would have run the originally scheduled amount of laps, but they wanted to get the show in for the fans and racers who helped support them. Thanks to everyone who came out on Monday evening.

I actually enjoyed having the IMCA sprints down to race. It appeared by the racers attitudes toward each other that they are a fun group of drivers who regularly race with each other. They have a great respect for each other on and off the track, and I look forward to seeing them again. The fans at Arlington and Redwood where these drivers race weekly are lucky to have a tight group that enjoy racing.

Next race in Owatonna is the ACSC Sprints on July 26th. Sorry not everyone was happy with the decisions of the promoters, but that's part of the job. You can't please all the people all the time, but do the best you know how. Good luck to all racers this weekend.


Stephanie

neilstevens2
July 10, 2007 at 07:53:22 PM
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Posted By: Steph D. Racefan on July 10 2007 at 06:42:51 PM

Just to clarify, the red came out after 13 laps of racing. The 00 of Brett Allen had hit the light pole in turn three, twisting the pole and making the lighting poor. This was obviously not intentional, but gave the promoters another problem to take care of before the curfew. The time was 10:20 and Owatonna has a curfew that the final race had to be started by 10:30. Scoring reviewed the changes in running order and the only changes in the running order was when the 5 car and 56 car got past the 21 on the 9th lap. The 18 had led since the drop of the green, pulled away from the 2 and 10. Over the final laps, the 2 and 10 were pulling closer, but were not within striking distance without a mistake by the 18.

All the features were shortened due to the time curfew Monday. Stocks shortened from 12 to 10, Midwest Mods from 15 to 12, Sprints from 18 to 15 (which actually became 13), and Late Models from 40 to 30.

If there was not the curfew, all classes would have run the originally scheduled amount of laps, but they wanted to get the show in for the fans and racers who helped support them. Thanks to everyone who came out on Monday evening.

I actually enjoyed having the IMCA sprints down to race. It appeared by the racers attitudes toward each other that they are a fun group of drivers who regularly race with each other. They have a great respect for each other on and off the track, and I look forward to seeing them again. The fans at Arlington and Redwood where these drivers race weekly are lucky to have a tight group that enjoy racing.

Next race in Owatonna is the ACSC Sprints on July 26th. Sorry not everyone was happy with the decisions of the promoters, but that's part of the job. You can't please all the people all the time, but do the best you know how. Good luck to all racers this weekend.



wrong on several things there. the 7 had just passed the 00 and was already on the 21. i was well within striking distance of the 18 and several others would've been on the restart. if the lights were an issue then how did the late models race? there were only 12 laps down cuz the 00 hadn't completed lap 13. none of us were ever told anything about 15 laps instead of 18. and i've never seen a sprint car race end without a green white checkered. excluding rain. the races could have gone late if the promoters had just said ok we'll pay the small fine cuz it was not the racers who started the whole program late. and last but not least, they did not get the show in for the fans. no checkered flag for the sprint cars means the show was not complete in any way. several sprint car fans were very upset and it'll be very hard to get those fans or cars back there. you were correct that the imca drivers are a very great bunch of people who race, socialize and help each other alot. and have alot of fun while putting on mostly all close races. thats why you saw and heard so many upset drivers and fans. Almost everyone was very mad!



SprintCarFan#1
July 10, 2007 at 07:57:35 PM
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Even 15 laps is too quick of a race. They should have races start earlier and have at least 30 laps of sprint car action.




neilstevens2
July 10, 2007 at 08:09:03 PM
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Posted By: SprintCarFan#1 on July 10 2007 at 07:57:35 PM

Even 15 laps is too quick of a race. They should have races start earlier and have at least 30 laps of sprint car action.



i agree with that. the fans pay alot of money to see these races. so start on time and schedule your start times earlier when there is a curfew. no way i'd bother to unload my car for a 12 lap main. and i sure wouldn't pay 15 bucks to get in the grandstand.



neilstevens2
July 10, 2007 at 08:19:21 PM
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Posted By: SprintCarFan#1 on July 10 2007 at 07:57:35 PM

Even 15 laps is too quick of a race. They should have races start earlier and have at least 30 laps of sprint car action.



not that everything there was negative. great facility, good crowd, good racetrack, and really nice people working at the place.



Steph D. Racefan
July 10, 2007 at 08:41:38 PM
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This message was edited on July 10, 2007 at 08:42:47 PM by Steph D. Racefan

I am sorry the night did not go off as well as everyone would have liked. The pit steward told the scorers over the headset that he told all the drivers the race was shortened to 15 laps. Part of the reason for my post is because I was told how upset some of the drivers were about the call and got upset with the IMCA official. She did not make the call, it was all the track. You are right about starting out with a challenge when not starting on time. As far as laps, the 360s, not being the top class only run 15 laps for their features in Knoxville (another 1/2 mile track) and out at Husets. People who know me, know that I am a die hard sprint fan and would love to see sprinters run more laps, but by running the final 2 laps, chances of getting the Late Models started on time would not have been possible. Unfortunately things went the way they did, and it can't be changed now. I hope the promoters learn from this, get the show started on time, and that the IMCA drivers give Steele County Speedway another chance. You put on a good show.

This is how the feature was scored, lap by lap:

18, 2, 10, 9, 55, 05, 21, 5, 56, 00, 9s, 7 lap 1

18, 2, 10, 9, 55, 05, 21, 56, 5, 00, 7, 9s lap 2

18, 2, 10, 9, 55, 05, 21, 56, 5, 00, 7, 9s lap 3

18, 2, 10, 9, 55, 05, 21, 56, 5, 00, 7, 9s lap 4

18, 2, 10, 9, 55, 05, 21, 56, 5, 00, 7, 9s lap 5

18, 2, 10, 9, 55, 05, 21, 56, 5, 00, 7, 9s lap 6

18, 2, 10, 9, 55, 05, 21, 56, 5, 00, 7, 9s lap 7

18, 2, 10, 9, 55, 05, 21, 56, 5, 00, 7, 9s lap 8

18, 2, 10, 9, 55, 05, 21, 56, 5, 00, 7, 9s lap 9

18, 2, 10, 9, 55, 05, 56, 21, 5, 00, 7, 9s lap 10

18, 2, 10, 9, 55, 05, 56, 21, 5, 00, 7, 9s lap 11

18, 2, 10, 9, 55, 05, 56, 5, 21, 7, 00, 9s lap 12

18, 2, 10, 9, 55, 05, 56, 5, 21, 7, 9s -lap 13 Red for 00; the yellow was thrown first and the rest of the cars were already scored when the yellow came out.

Neil, I am corrected, there were three passes, but in the haste of the decision, scorers quickly looked at the laps and there wasn't much movement. Hope to see you race again this season.


Stephanie


Allenator
July 11, 2007 at 12:33:18 AM
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I completly understand the time limit deal, Arlington has the same time limit and has had to cut races short in the past as time runs out. We were not the main event we were a support class for the late models, I feel bad that they couldn't get the full amount of laps in for them as the racing usually picks up in the final laps. We didn't have much passing in the sprint cars so I fully understand and support the tracks decision and can't wait to get back there and not hit a light pole this time that really hurts and the cars perty bent up but i'll get the porto power and torch out and fix her up. I would like to thank the Owatonna Speedway for having us its real fun racing there I feel bad that some people got all pissy about the race being shortened but I guess you can't please everyone. It would have been a different story if they were out front I guess. Congratulation to Nate Laugen on his first Sprintcar Win it's been a longtime coming I'm very pleased with the results Monday night.

00 Brett Allen



mikl
July 11, 2007 at 03:51:58 AM
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Posted By: neilstevens2 on July 10 2007 at 08:09:03 PM

i agree with that. the fans pay alot of money to see these races. so start on time and schedule your start times earlier when there is a curfew. no way i'd bother to unload my car for a 12 lap main. and i sure wouldn't pay 15 bucks to get in the grandstand.



I agree with Neil.

How is he suppose to get in a position to claim a motor in only 12 laps?



56sprint
July 11, 2007 at 09:25:33 AM
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the whole deal was bad my team was up set becuse thay could have told us about the race possibly being shortened and should have had a green white checkered but owell Im blaming bertt allen for hitting the light pole lol Smile brett do you need a new nose wing

Bill Johnson 56




z-man
July 11, 2007 at 11:16:20 AM
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Come back on Thursday July 26th and you'll get to run (25) laps. The first of (3) straight nights of ASCS Northern Plains competition as we head to I-90 in Hartford on Friday July 27th and then to Murray County Speedway in Slayton, MN for a Saturday night July 28th show.

Each night pays $1500 to win and $250 to start the A feature. ASCS membership is not required to compete...CZ



neilstevens2
July 11, 2007 at 01:23:41 PM
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Posted By: mikl on July 11 2007 at 03:51:58 AM

I agree with Neil.

How is he suppose to get in a position to claim a motor in only 12 laps?



well genius there is no motor claim in imca and there hasn't been for 2 years. and i have never claimed a motor. only heads. one set. and i later that season loaned that guy(chris graf) an entire motor to race the nationals when his motor blew up. i know he's not whining a year later so why are you. hide behind your screen name and borrow a tissue from somebody to wipe your tears.



neilstevens2
July 11, 2007 at 01:44:59 PM
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Posted By: Allenator on July 11 2007 at 12:33:18 AM

I completly understand the time limit deal, Arlington has the same time limit and has had to cut races short in the past as time runs out. We were not the main event we were a support class for the late models, I feel bad that they couldn't get the full amount of laps in for them as the racing usually picks up in the final laps. We didn't have much passing in the sprint cars so I fully understand and support the tracks decision and can't wait to get back there and not hit a light pole this time that really hurts and the cars perty bent up but i'll get the porto power and torch out and fix her up. I would like to thank the Owatonna Speedway for having us its real fun racing there I feel bad that some people got all pissy about the race being shortened but I guess you can't please everyone. It would have been a different story if they were out front I guess. Congratulation to Nate Laugen on his first Sprintcar Win it's been a longtime coming I'm very pleased with the results Monday night.

00 Brett Allen



brett you should clarify that you're speaking for yourself and not bob and susan. as far as i know bob and susan give a green white checkered when there is a time limit. i'm sure it didn't matter to you if we raced anymore after you hit the pole. but i'm also sure that bob and susan would have handled it much more professional.




Lanman
July 11, 2007 at 08:35:49 PM
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Posted By: neilstevens2 on July 11 2007 at 01:23:41 PM

well genius there is no motor claim in imca and there hasn't been for 2 years. and i have never claimed a motor. only heads. one set. and i later that season loaned that guy(chris graf) an entire motor to race the nationals when his motor blew up. i know he's not whining a year later so why are you. hide behind your screen name and borrow a tissue from somebody to wipe your tears.



ummm????? cough, cough!!!!! Mr. Stevens, do you think that I actually believe you have never claimed a motor.......just heads? I seem to remember a certain 69R owned by myself getting claimed just as a grudge claim as you proclaimed that night. How in the world could you forget that one? Want to try again on your reply to the guy above?



neilstevens2
July 12, 2007 at 10:19:09 PM
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Posted By: Lanman on July 11 2007 at 08:35:49 PM

ummm????? cough, cough!!!!! Mr. Stevens, do you think that I actually believe you have never claimed a motor.......just heads? I seem to remember a certain 69R owned by myself getting claimed just as a grudge claim as you proclaimed that night. How in the world could you forget that one? Want to try again on your reply to the guy above?



well lanman..so yr the one known all around as the cheater. huh. been DQ'd again lately for cheating? when i claimed you i was running a spec motor without a roller cam. so even though you were running a full claim motor and signed in as that, i was only able to claim your heads. anyone else could have claimed your whole long block for $825. but even though you signed in as a full claimer who should be willing to give up the whole motor you weren't even willing to give up your heads that i claimed for $825. scott winters did give up his whole long block a few days later to another guy at the boone super nationals. a race which you couldn't be at cuz you were "cheating". i doubt you'd have given up the whole motor when you wouldn't even give up the heads for $825. some things never change. been to knoxville lately? oh thats right, you can't race there either after cheating there. lol



neilstevens2
July 12, 2007 at 10:20:56 PM
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Posted By: Lanman on July 11 2007 at 08:35:49 PM

ummm????? cough, cough!!!!! Mr. Stevens, do you think that I actually believe you have never claimed a motor.......just heads? I seem to remember a certain 69R owned by myself getting claimed just as a grudge claim as you proclaimed that night. How in the world could you forget that one? Want to try again on your reply to the guy above?



ummmm...yea..are you done coughing? must be hard to swallow now




z-man
July 12, 2007 at 10:56:38 PM
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Actually, Chuck Swenson has raced at Knoxville this year, more than once...CZ



jake899
July 13, 2007 at 12:29:20 AM
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All I can say is WOW!  Neil, do you have proof that the 69R was cheating?  Just because he wouldn't sell to you doesn't mean he's cheating....hell I'd have never sold my heads for $825, let alone a whole motor!  Chuck Swenson is the car owner of the X machine, and yeah he was caught last year, but that doesn't mean Lanny is the one that did it.....right?  It doesn't mean that they're cheating now, does it?  I'd vouch for Lanny anyday....and getting claimed is chickensh*t.  Maybe if IMCA would have done the whole thing right and made it a swap as well it may have been a good idea, but it never worked the way IMCA was hoping.  It was always because they were/are better than the guy claiming.  They know how to set up a car...and what they need to do to be fast consistantly....and a guy will claim them thinking that motor is gonna win every race, or it will keep the person who got claimed from winning (turned into a big grudge).  Almost never worked out that way did it?  Just an observation. 





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