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91RI
February 24, 2013 at 12:34:58 AM
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Listened to some post race interviews. One driver proudly proclaimed that he was blocking, after he just caused an incredibly nasty wreck. Another driver stated that he kept his foot on the floor and drove into that same wreck wide open. I'm pretty disgusted with both drivers, and it's pretty much sh*t luck that Kyle Larson isn't in the hospital because of them, and some race fans ARE in the hospital because of them. Not much to respect there in my opinion.




WoOSprint514
February 24, 2013 at 01:15:07 AM
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I agree. Just like in most dirt racing, the field should be frozen back to the previous completed lap as soon as the caution drops.




Dryslick Willie
February 24, 2013 at 07:05:08 AM
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Don't know where you come from, where I'm from keeping your foot in the gas and drivers blocking to protect their position is called racing!


Sprinter 79
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February 24, 2013 at 08:37:06 AM
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This message was edited on February 24, 2013 at 10:20:41 AM by Sprinter 79
Isn't that kind of driving pretty typical for a Nascar event? What else are they going to do at the speeds that they are travelling and in such close quarters? I don't think they were stopping any time soon. As far as blocking, most people thought that was pretty awesome when Dale Earnhardt did it. Had it not been the wonder child Kyle Larson I don't think that we would be seeing any comments about it at all. Hell had it been Danica this board would be exploding with ignorance about her inability to drive. I am not claiming of course that it was Kyle's fault because it wasn't, but this has been going on in Nascrap racing for years. This is nothing new.
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vanh
February 24, 2013 at 08:40:51 AM
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Posted By: Sprinter 79 on February 24 2013 at 08:37:06 AM
Isn't that kind of driving pretty typical for a Nascar event? What else are they going to do at the speeds that they are travelling and in such close quarters? I don't think they were stopping any time soon. As far as blocking, most people thought that was pretty awesome when Dale Earnhardt did it. Had it not been the wonder child Kyle Larson I don't think that we would be seeing any comments about it at all. Hell had it been Danica this board would be exploding with ignorance about her inability to drive. I am not claiming of course that it was Kyle's fault because it wasn't, but this has been going on in Nascrap racing for years. This is nothing new.


I am messed up who did kyle block?



worn racer
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February 24, 2013 at 08:57:12 AM
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Posted By: 91RI on February 24 2013 at 12:34:58 AM

Listened to some post race interviews. One driver proudly proclaimed that he was blocking, after he just caused an incredibly nasty wreck. Another driver stated that he kept his foot on the floor and drove into that same wreck wide open. I'm pretty disgusted with both drivers, and it's pretty much sh*t luck that Kyle Larson isn't in the hospital because of them, and some race fans ARE in the hospital because of them. Not much to respect there in my opinion.



The fix for this is to take the damn mirrors out of the car and drive the car like real race car drivers do .Blocking will go away .




HDsmoke20
February 24, 2013 at 09:23:01 AM
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Posted By: worn racer on February 24 2013 at 08:57:12 AM

The fix for this is to take the damn mirrors out of the car and drive the car like real race car drivers do .Blocking will go away .



Preach it brother! Blocking sucks and it's not racing.

ColtanW
February 24, 2013 at 09:52:45 AM
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Posted By: 91RI on February 24 2013 at 12:34:58 AM

Listened to some post race interviews. One driver proudly proclaimed that he was blocking, after he just caused an incredibly nasty wreck. Another driver stated that he kept his foot on the floor and drove into that same wreck wide open. I'm pretty disgusted with both drivers, and it's pretty much sh*t luck that Kyle Larson isn't in the hospital because of them, and some race fans ARE in the hospital because of them. Not much to respect there in my opinion.



You obviously missed the portion where each driver said they hoped everyone in the stands were ok and that their thoughts were with them first and foremost before they started the interview. Regan Smith didn't proudly proclaim he was blocking, he did admit to blocking in order to win the race, but he wasn't being disrespectful about it. He simply said he did what he had to do to win at Daytona which was blocking, no way he could have known the outcome. And for the driver that went in wide open, he was already in the middle of the wreck, if he would have hit the breaks he still would have hit the vehicle in front of him and the vehicle behind him would have hit him. In that situation the only thing you can do is push on the gas and try to find a way through. No reason to try to patronize NASCAR and their drivers.

Tragic events occurred yesterday, but instead of trying put blame on someone or act like it's the drivers fault, we should be looking at ways to increase safety for drivers and spectators. The catch fence has proved itself no good and there have been multiple times to cause for reform (when Carl Edwards had his car shredded up in the catch fence at Talladega and Dan Wheldon's fatal crash at Las Vegas, both very recent occasions). Formula 1 has recently switched to a type of avalanche fencing, I'm not sure how different it is and if it will keep from shredding race cars, but it is worth a look.

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Humpin2please
February 24, 2013 at 10:00:28 AM
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Posted By: 91RI on February 24 2013 at 12:34:58 AM

Listened to some post race interviews. One driver proudly proclaimed that he was blocking, after he just caused an incredibly nasty wreck. Another driver stated that he kept his foot on the floor and drove into that same wreck wide open. I'm pretty disgusted with both drivers, and it's pretty much sh*t luck that Kyle Larson isn't in the hospital because of them, and some race fans ARE in the hospital because of them. Not much to respect there in my opinion.



you gotta be kidding me ..I have seen many sprint car driver gas it up to get through a wreck...shit I have seen many WoO driver make a whole lap on a red flag careful where you throw stones




Hannity
February 24, 2013 at 10:11:12 AM
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Posted By: ColtanW on February 24 2013 at 09:52:45 AM
You obviously missed the portion where each driver said they hoped everyone in the stands were ok and that their thoughts were with them first and foremost before they started the interview. Regan Smith didn't proudly proclaim he was blocking, he did admit to blocking in order to win the race, but he wasn't being disrespectful about it. He simply said he did what he had to do to win at Daytona which was blocking, no way he could have known the outcome. And for the driver that went in wide open, he was already in the middle of the wreck, if he would have hit the breaks he still would have hit the vehicle in front of him and the vehicle behind him would have hit him. In that situation the only thing you can do is push on the gas and try to find a way through. No reason to try to patronize NASCAR and their drivers.

Tragic events occurred yesterday, but instead of trying put blame on someone or act like it's the drivers fault, we should be looking at ways to increase safety for drivers and spectators. The catch fence has proved itself no good and there have been multiple times to cause for reform (when Carl Edwards had his car shredded up in the catch fence at Talladega and Dan Wheldon's fatal crash at Las Vegas, both very recent occasions). Formula 1 has recently switched to a type of avalanche fencing, I'm not sure how different it is and if it will keep from shredding race cars, but it is worth a look.



I agree with your analysis about the drivers. As a fan, we want the drivers to do everything they can to advance their position or to get the win, short of intentionally wrecking someone.

I don't blame the drivers for Saturday's mayhem. Overall I thought their reaction and their comments were appropriate, given the severity of the situation.

With that said, I DO blame NASCAR, not so much for the wreck, but I blame NASCAR for what the Daytona race and others have become! They own it!

Restrictor plate racing is a joke. The by-product is pack racing, bump drafting, and carnage. Notice I didn't say good racing.

It's time to shorten the track, it's just too big and too fast and as long as they restrict the engines we're going to have repeats of Saturday... The smaller tracks produce a much better and in some cases a much safer race event product.



Sprinter 79
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February 24, 2013 at 10:18:17 AM
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Posted By: vanh on February 24 2013 at 08:40:51 AM

I am messed up who did kyle block?



Well done Vahn, you missed the entire point of my post because you could not get passed my "wonder Child Larson" comment. You also missed the part about how Larson was not at fault. Well done!
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Paintboss
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February 24, 2013 at 10:26:37 AM
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Everyone released from the Hospital requested to go back to the track for the 500. Just as I would...lol


Paintboss
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February 24, 2013 at 10:27:55 AM
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Heard this on SPEED CHANNEL by the way.

Speedbump
February 24, 2013 at 11:21:19 AM
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It didn't sound to me like Regan Smith was "proudly proclaiming" that he was blocking....it sounded to me like he was pretty disgusted that he was forced to do so in order to win. I heard no pride in his voice over what happened.



maddog53
February 24, 2013 at 11:33:17 AM
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Posted By: 91RI on February 24 2013 at 12:34:58 AM

Listened to some post race interviews. One driver proudly proclaimed that he was blocking, after he just caused an incredibly nasty wreck. Another driver stated that he kept his foot on the floor and drove into that same wreck wide open. I'm pretty disgusted with both drivers, and it's pretty much sh*t luck that Kyle Larson isn't in the hospital because of them, and some race fans ARE in the hospital because of them. Not much to respect there in my opinion.



I saw the interview with Regan Smith. In no way was he proudly proclaiming, it seemed to me he was very contrite about what he did and the carnage it resulted in.....JMO


maddog53
February 24, 2013 at 11:39:33 AM
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Posted By: Sprinter 79 on February 24 2013 at 08:37:06 AM
Isn't that kind of driving pretty typical for a Nascar event? What else are they going to do at the speeds that they are travelling and in such close quarters? I don't think they were stopping any time soon. As far as blocking, most people thought that was pretty awesome when Dale Earnhardt did it. Had it not been the wonder child Kyle Larson I don't think that we would be seeing any comments about it at all. Hell had it been Danica this board would be exploding with ignorance about her inability to drive. I am not claiming of course that it was Kyle's fault because it wasn't, but this has been going on in Nascrap racing for years. This is nothing new.


Absolutely SPOT ON comments, Jim. Earnhardt could do no wrong in some peoples minds. I did not like him because of the driver he was. If you are 'that good', wait a lap and go around, don't hit him. I disagree with the NASCRAP wording, as we are all race fans on here, and I just think the NASCRAP, or CRAPCAR references are childish. All in all, yeah, if it was Danica, this would have been taken off the net because of some of the guys on here and their crappy opinions, me included. I never put Danica down though, because she has bigger balls than I do, doing what she does. I cannot do what she does. She has bigger balls than any other guy on here also, and some guys just can't deal with that....

revjimk
February 24, 2013 at 02:15:28 PM
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This message was edited on February 24, 2013 at 02:21:24 PM by revjimk

" I never put Danica down though, because she has bigger balls than I do, doing what she does. I cannot do what she does. She has bigger balls than any other guy on here also, and some guys just can't deal with that.... "

Well said. I would have to build up nerve just to drive full speed on an empty track.

I used to build haulers with a former drag racer (Nothing bigtime, just bracket racing) He said it scared him to keep his foot on the gas at 160 mph, straight track, separate lanes



sprintcarfanatic
February 24, 2013 at 06:27:01 PM
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Given the oppurtunity & possibly my life I'd give'er hell if I could. Balls or not.




linbob
February 24, 2013 at 07:06:52 PM
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Posted By: 91RI on February 24 2013 at 12:34:58 AM

Listened to some post race interviews. One driver proudly proclaimed that he was blocking, after he just caused an incredibly nasty wreck. Another driver stated that he kept his foot on the floor and drove into that same wreck wide open. I'm pretty disgusted with both drivers, and it's pretty much sh*t luck that Kyle Larson isn't in the hospital because of them, and some race fans ARE in the hospital because of them. Not much to respect there in my opinion.



As everyone knows restrictor plate racing almost always have the big one. This has been going on for years. What is the answer? With out restrictor plates the car would be about 210 mph, so they can not do that. Daytona is Daytona. They are not going to level the banks, or shorton the track. I think maybe some of the tracks were built some time ago and the front seats maybe to close to track. Most of these tracks overbuilt with now to many seats. I think they could remove some seets down near tract and still have plenty of seats. As I remember it a few years ago at Indy in a private test a Indy car went with the entire car in the grandstands. This would scare the heck out of those people who have to try to make track safe for spectators.



dirtface
February 24, 2013 at 07:59:15 PM
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Posted By: linbob on February 24 2013 at 07:06:52 PM

As everyone knows restrictor plate racing almost always have the big one. This has been going on for years. What is the answer? With out restrictor plates the car would be about 210 mph, so they can not do that. Daytona is Daytona. They are not going to level the banks, or shorton the track. I think maybe some of the tracks were built some time ago and the front seats maybe to close to track. Most of these tracks overbuilt with now to many seats. I think they could remove some seets down near tract and still have plenty of seats. As I remember it a few years ago at Indy in a private test a Indy car went with the entire car in the grandstands. This would scare the heck out of those people who have to try to make track safe for spectators.



Get rid of the restrictor plate and take the wing off the back and bring the front of the nose off the ground . Then make them drive the damn thing . No down force . Don't think they will be tied together and they won't hold it to the floor if it don't stick. Just my opinion .
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