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harryfan
February 18, 2013 at 09:27:36 PM
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This is an ugly way to end a race.

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You Know,, If the NASCAR Officials had the BALLS,,,,, They Should Take the Win Away from larson,,,,, That was just Piss Poor Driving,,,,, ZZ

dirtface
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Hey I'm one of Kyles biggest fans . And I will admit it wasn't a pretty ending. But when a win is right in front of a racer . Most of them will drive hard enough to WIN. Because 2nd sucks. Kyle is having a good week so far in Florida. 2nd , 1st , and 1st. Besides Kyle didn't mean to wreck him , he just meant to rattle his cage. Lol
We need more sprint car racing at our home track.


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Hey I'm one of Kyles biggest fans . And I will admit it wasn't a pretty ending. But when a win is right in front of a racer . Most of them will drive hard enough to WIN. Because 2nd sucks. Kyle is having a good week so far in Florida. 2nd , 1st , and 1st. Besides Kyle didn't mean to wreck him , he just meant to rattle his cage. Lol


Thats no EXCUSE ,,,,,, Show no Respect for your Fellow Drivers ,,,, This Will come back and BITE him right in the ASS !!!!! The driver must Remain in Control ,,, at all Times,,,, WIN or LOOSE ,,,,, In this case ,,,, 2nd Place would have Showin Class,,, With a Good Tight Finish,,, Then the BULL SHIT HE Pulled ,,,,,, You can be KYLE LARSONS Best Fan,,,, But don't make up a Bull shit Excuse For his Un-talented move,,,, saying he was going for the win,,,,,, The cage that you mentioned ,,,,, He Needs to be in it,,,, BOTTOM LINE,,,,,,, DID IT HAPPEN,,, OR DIDN'T IT HAPPEN,!!!!!!!!!!

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February 19, 2013 at 03:04:54 PM
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I liked the donuts with the steering wheel outside the car ala Chili Bowl

ROB

btw it was a crappy move

btw again did anyone really watch that crap live all I saw was the lowlights on facebook



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This message was edited on February 19, 2013 at 03:15:01 PM by BIGFISH

I was a little disappointed in the kid, but I kind of contribute in to not enough seat time in a real race car, a traditional sprinter.

No way Randy; you don't believe that "nice guy's finish last", so get off the horse.


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No way for Chico or the thunder bowl dirtbutt, it's way to far from the border of either AZ or Mexico if I have to make a run for it.

Half the lies they tell about me aren't true. 

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Hey I'm one of Kyles biggest fans . And I will admit it wasn't a pretty ending. But when a win is right in front of a racer . Most of them will drive hard enough to WIN. Because 2nd sucks. Kyle is having a good week so far in Florida. 2nd , 1st , and 1st. Besides Kyle didn't mean to wreck him , he just meant to rattle his cage. Lol


Could'nt agree more Randy! I too have watched the kid for 3 years now and he keeps thrilling me. Ol' dale E used do to this type of thing regularly. I became a Ripper fan in 94 or 95 when Rip was driving the Jan's car at Santa Maria. I was a DeDinato fan, my pal hated Rip. Well Rip punted some guy into the ticket booth, the crowd did'nt like it and started booing. Well I says, he's my kinda guy and became a Ripper fan for a long time. Not long after that Rip got set down for 2 weeks for unsportsman like driving. I believe Rip punted Sweeney out of the way at Perris once. Ever notice Rip's livery is the same as Dale E? The point is, to quote Robin Miller "we need more hate in racing". I asked a lady at Farmer Boys if Rip was going to put on a show tonite, she said Rip ALWAYS puts on a show. Love to watch Kyle, but the most exciting guy to watch is TK, Tim kaeding, espescially at Tulare where he puts that right rear right on the wall. The guy that brags he never goes up north is missing a lot of terrific racing. The best is the Trophy Cup at Tulare which some day will be as big as Knoxville.

 

 

 

 

 

 



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Beneath that angelic face beats the heart of a real money racer.




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Well I watched The NASCAR Mod Race,,,,,,,,, On the Restart on the FRONT ROW,,,,, COMIN DOWN for the green,,,It LQQKS like KYLE LARSON may have a chance to win this race,,,,,,,,,,, KYLE << Misses a shift,,, Gets into the wall,,,,,,,,Done for the Night,,,,,,,,,,, Now thats Called " CARMA ' Plain and simple,,,,,, YOU KNOW KYLE is a young driver,,,, If he Realizes his bad move from last night,,,,,,, and the way he drove the Mod race to night,,, the Quicker he learns ,,, that RUBBIN is "NOT" racing,,,,, making a clean pass will get him further down the track. with the Respect from his fellow Racers and his fan base,,,,,,, YOU DON'T NEED TO CRASH ,,, AND TAKE OUT CARS TO WIN A RACE ,,,,,,, ENOUGH SAID, ,,,,,,,ZZ

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Right about the money and like Billy Boat and this young hood proved, you sure can't tell a book by it's cover or it's name.


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Beneath that angelic face beats the heart of a real money racer.



Good thing for Kyle it was not Rober Ballou he wrecked... the angelic face might be with crooked nose...

There is a ton of pressure on this kid, it's so much easier to wreck someone than it is to pass them. I hope that doing that does not become easy for Kyle in the future. It sure was BS and hard to watch! Not cool kid

 




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My 2 cents:

Was the race event not called the "BATTLE at the Beach"? Kyle went to do battle, and did exactly what each and every one of you would have done given the same opportunity, which is TRY TO WIN. Shame on him? Is he not a race car driver?

That is what he is paid to do.

That is what Nascar wants to see happen for the sake of ratings.

That is what the majority of the Nascar fans come to see...excitement.

Imagine if Kyle didn't attempt that last ditched move...would ANYONE be talking about that race today?

C'mon guys...seriously...think about this for a minute. For taking the chance, Kyle received another WIN on the resume and in the record books, as well as the winner's share of the purse, a trophy, and bragging rights.

What did he have to lose? No points lost. No money lost. Didn't completely destroy the car. Didn't burn any bridges with the car owner. I guess he may have lost the respect of some "fans". But before you're so quick to judge, remember that this is a race to the checkered flag. 2nd place is the first loser!

Do we want races to be tea parties amongst friends that end in a group hug? Heck no!

Still not convinced you'd do any different? Here's something else to think about. How many times have we seen innocent fans hurt at sporting events trying to catch fly balls or free T-shirts? Do we crucify the guy who steps on little kids trying to gain something for his own kid? Usually the focus goes to the victim. I've never heard any reporter say that the guy that caused the injury was a horrible fan.

Why should we lose respect for someone who is doing everything he can to win the prize?

This wasn't the superspeedway, where Kyle could have hurt someone. This was good racing. His move was calculated. This was a product of the environment that Nascar created for your entertainment. They got exactly what they wanted. No one is bashing the other two winners from the following night...who did the EXACT SAME THING to win!

If you saw $100 bill floating on a busy sidewalk....would you patiently stand and watch it blow away because you didn't want to accidentally bump into a passerby?

I don't think so.

So why bash ANY racer who had a $15,000 carrot dangling right in front of them?

It wasn't pretty...that's for sure. Kyle was immediately on Twitter saying that it wasn't the most proud moment of his racing career, or his first choice in how to get a "W". But the fact is, it made the race exciting and gave us something to talk about.

Even C.E. Falk said during his post-race interview that Kyle did exactly what he needed to do...and he understood because he would have done the same thing...because he is a racer. I applaud the kid for his sportsmanship...handled it like a true veteran and gentleman!

Kyle had never sat in this car before, or driven on this track before, or raced the majority of these guys before, but still managed to be in contention to win at the end. Why isn't the focus on that?

Okay, I'm done...let the bashing resume...

(I say as I lay down my huge spoon, believing that the pot has been sufficiently stirred by now)

 


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Posted By: Doug Bushey on February 21 2013 at 10:27:03 AM

My 2 cents:

Was the race event not called the "BATTLE at the Beach"? Kyle went to do battle, and did exactly what each and every one of you would have done given the same opportunity, which is TRY TO WIN. Shame on him? Is he not a race car driver?

That is what he is paid to do.

That is what Nascar wants to see happen for the sake of ratings.

That is what the majority of the Nascar fans come to see...excitement.

Imagine if Kyle didn't attempt that last ditched move...would ANYONE be talking about that race today?

C'mon guys...seriously...think about this for a minute. For taking the chance, Kyle received another WIN on the resume and in the record books, as well as the winner's share of the purse, a trophy, and bragging rights.

What did he have to lose? No points lost. No money lost. Didn't completely destroy the car. Didn't burn any bridges with the car owner. I guess he may have lost the respect of some "fans". But before you're so quick to judge, remember that this is a race to the checkered flag. 2nd place is the first loser!

Do we want races to be tea parties amongst friends that end in a group hug? Heck no!

Still not convinced you'd do any different? Here's something else to think about. How many times have we seen innocent fans hurt at sporting events trying to catch fly balls or free T-shirts? Do we crucify the guy who steps on little kids trying to gain something for his own kid? Usually the focus goes to the victim. I've never heard any reporter say that the guy that caused the injury was a horrible fan.

Why should we lose respect for someone who is doing everything he can to win the prize?

This wasn't the superspeedway, where Kyle could have hurt someone. This was good racing. His move was calculated. This was a product of the environment that Nascar created for your entertainment. They got exactly what they wanted. No one is bashing the other two winners from the following night...who did the EXACT SAME THING to win!

If you saw $100 bill floating on a busy sidewalk....would you patiently stand and watch it blow away because you didn't want to accidentally bump into a passerby?

I don't think so.

So why bash ANY racer who had a $15,000 carrot dangling right in front of them?

It wasn't pretty...that's for sure. Kyle was immediately on Twitter saying that it wasn't the most proud moment of his racing career, or his first choice in how to get a "W". But the fact is, it made the race exciting and gave us something to talk about.

Even C.E. Falk said during his post-race interview that Kyle did exactly what he needed to do...and he understood because he would have done the same thing...because he is a racer. I applaud the kid for his sportsmanship...handled it like a true veteran and gentleman!

Kyle had never sat in this car before, or driven on this track before, or raced the majority of these guys before, but still managed to be in contention to win at the end. Why isn't the focus on that?

Okay, I'm done...let the bashing resume...

(I say as I lay down my huge spoon, believing that the pot has been sufficiently stirred by now)

 



Amen!



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February 21, 2013 at 12:43:42 PM
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Posted By: Doug Bushey on February 21 2013 at 10:27:03 AM

My 2 cents:

Was the race event not called the "BATTLE at the Beach"? Kyle went to do battle, and did exactly what each and every one of you would have done given the same opportunity, which is TRY TO WIN. Shame on him? Is he not a race car driver?

That is what he is paid to do.

That is what Nascar wants to see happen for the sake of ratings.

That is what the majority of the Nascar fans come to see...excitement.

Imagine if Kyle didn't attempt that last ditched move...would ANYONE be talking about that race today?

C'mon guys...seriously...think about this for a minute. For taking the chance, Kyle received another WIN on the resume and in the record books, as well as the winner's share of the purse, a trophy, and bragging rights.

What did he have to lose? No points lost. No money lost. Didn't completely destroy the car. Didn't burn any bridges with the car owner. I guess he may have lost the respect of some "fans". But before you're so quick to judge, remember that this is a race to the checkered flag. 2nd place is the first loser!

Do we want races to be tea parties amongst friends that end in a group hug? Heck no!

Still not convinced you'd do any different? Here's something else to think about. How many times have we seen innocent fans hurt at sporting events trying to catch fly balls or free T-shirts? Do we crucify the guy who steps on little kids trying to gain something for his own kid? Usually the focus goes to the victim. I've never heard any reporter say that the guy that caused the injury was a horrible fan.

Why should we lose respect for someone who is doing everything he can to win the prize?

This wasn't the superspeedway, where Kyle could have hurt someone. This was good racing. His move was calculated. This was a product of the environment that Nascar created for your entertainment. They got exactly what they wanted. No one is bashing the other two winners from the following night...who did the EXACT SAME THING to win!

If you saw $100 bill floating on a busy sidewalk....would you patiently stand and watch it blow away because you didn't want to accidentally bump into a passerby?

I don't think so.

So why bash ANY racer who had a $15,000 carrot dangling right in front of them?

It wasn't pretty...that's for sure. Kyle was immediately on Twitter saying that it wasn't the most proud moment of his racing career, or his first choice in how to get a "W". But the fact is, it made the race exciting and gave us something to talk about.

Even C.E. Falk said during his post-race interview that Kyle did exactly what he needed to do...and he understood because he would have done the same thing...because he is a racer. I applaud the kid for his sportsmanship...handled it like a true veteran and gentleman!

Kyle had never sat in this car before, or driven on this track before, or raced the majority of these guys before, but still managed to be in contention to win at the end. Why isn't the focus on that?

Okay, I'm done...let the bashing resume...

(I say as I lay down my huge spoon, believing that the pot has been sufficiently stirred by now)

 



And Amen! Heard Bushey calling a race at Orange Show-Outstanding!




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February 21, 2013 at 02:34:23 PM
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Posted By: Doug Bushey on February 21 2013 at 10:27:03 AM

My 2 cents:

Was the race event not called the "BATTLE at the Beach"? Kyle went to do battle, and did exactly what each and every one of you would have done given the same opportunity, which is TRY TO WIN. Shame on him? Is he not a race car driver?

That is what he is paid to do.

That is what Nascar wants to see happen for the sake of ratings.

That is what the majority of the Nascar fans come to see...excitement.

Imagine if Kyle didn't attempt that last ditched move...would ANYONE be talking about that race today?

C'mon guys...seriously...think about this for a minute. For taking the chance, Kyle received another WIN on the resume and in the record books, as well as the winner's share of the purse, a trophy, and bragging rights.

What did he have to lose? No points lost. No money lost. Didn't completely destroy the car. Didn't burn any bridges with the car owner. I guess he may have lost the respect of some "fans". But before you're so quick to judge, remember that this is a race to the checkered flag. 2nd place is the first loser!

Do we want races to be tea parties amongst friends that end in a group hug? Heck no!

Still not convinced you'd do any different? Here's something else to think about. How many times have we seen innocent fans hurt at sporting events trying to catch fly balls or free T-shirts? Do we crucify the guy who steps on little kids trying to gain something for his own kid? Usually the focus goes to the victim. I've never heard any reporter say that the guy that caused the injury was a horrible fan.

Why should we lose respect for someone who is doing everything he can to win the prize?

This wasn't the superspeedway, where Kyle could have hurt someone. This was good racing. His move was calculated. This was a product of the environment that Nascar created for your entertainment. They got exactly what they wanted. No one is bashing the other two winners from the following night...who did the EXACT SAME THING to win!

If you saw $100 bill floating on a busy sidewalk....would you patiently stand and watch it blow away because you didn't want to accidentally bump into a passerby?

I don't think so.

So why bash ANY racer who had a $15,000 carrot dangling right in front of them?

It wasn't pretty...that's for sure. Kyle was immediately on Twitter saying that it wasn't the most proud moment of his racing career, or his first choice in how to get a "W". But the fact is, it made the race exciting and gave us something to talk about.

Even C.E. Falk said during his post-race interview that Kyle did exactly what he needed to do...and he understood because he would have done the same thing...because he is a racer. I applaud the kid for his sportsmanship...handled it like a true veteran and gentleman!

Kyle had never sat in this car before, or driven on this track before, or raced the majority of these guys before, but still managed to be in contention to win at the end. Why isn't the focus on that?

Okay, I'm done...let the bashing resume...

(I say as I lay down my huge spoon, believing that the pot has been sufficiently stirred by now)

 



Don't know about anyone else but I did not lose any respect for the kid. I've seen worse. That was not how I wanted him to win, but he did own it rather than hide out in the hauler after the race. If you're going to do that you need to accept the critical comments, along with the money and the trophy... I can honestly say I would not have done that in that situation, which is why I am rocking a keyboard and Kyle is on his way to a race track right now expecting to win.

I'm glad I got to see him race at Canyon when I did, good times.



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My 2 cents:

Was the race event not called the "BATTLE at the Beach"? Kyle went to do battle, and did exactly what each and every one of you would have done given the same opportunity, which is TRY TO WIN. Shame on him? Is he not a race car driver?

That is what he is paid to do.

That is what Nascar wants to see happen for the sake of ratings.

That is what the majority of the Nascar fans come to see...excitement.

Imagine if Kyle didn't attempt that last ditched move...would ANYONE be talking about that race today?

C'mon guys...seriously...think about this for a minute. For taking the chance, Kyle received another WIN on the resume and in the record books, as well as the winner's share of the purse, a trophy, and bragging rights.

What did he have to lose? No points lost. No money lost. Didn't completely destroy the car. Didn't burn any bridges with the car owner. I guess he may have lost the respect of some "fans". But before you're so quick to judge, remember that this is a race to the checkered flag. 2nd place is the first loser!

Do we want races to be tea parties amongst friends that end in a group hug? Heck no!

Still not convinced you'd do any different? Here's something else to think about. How many times have we seen innocent fans hurt at sporting events trying to catch fly balls or free T-shirts? Do we crucify the guy who steps on little kids trying to gain something for his own kid? Usually the focus goes to the victim. I've never heard any reporter say that the guy that caused the injury was a horrible fan.

Why should we lose respect for someone who is doing everything he can to win the prize?

This wasn't the superspeedway, where Kyle could have hurt someone. This was good racing. His move was calculated. This was a product of the environment that Nascar created for your entertainment. They got exactly what they wanted. No one is bashing the other two winners from the following night...who did the EXACT SAME THING to win!

If you saw $100 bill floating on a busy sidewalk....would you patiently stand and watch it blow away because you didn't want to accidentally bump into a passerby?

I don't think so.

So why bash ANY racer who had a $15,000 carrot dangling right in front of them?

It wasn't pretty...that's for sure. Kyle was immediately on Twitter saying that it wasn't the most proud moment of his racing career, or his first choice in how to get a "W". But the fact is, it made the race exciting and gave us something to talk about.

Even C.E. Falk said during his post-race interview that Kyle did exactly what he needed to do...and he understood because he would have done the same thing...because he is a racer. I applaud the kid for his sportsmanship...handled it like a true veteran and gentleman!

Kyle had never sat in this car before, or driven on this track before, or raced the majority of these guys before, but still managed to be in contention to win at the end. Why isn't the focus on that?

Okay, I'm done...let the bashing resume...

(I say as I lay down my huge spoon, believing that the pot has been sufficiently stirred by now)

 



Well BUSHEY,,,, being ,, you are involved in this new organization ,,,,,URA,, It will be Inserting to see how your URA Officials will handle the call when the 2nd place car takes out the leader any time during the race ,,,,, not to mention coming down for the checkered flags,,,,,, any one that is involved with racing ,,, stock cars ,,, open wheel ,,,,,, do not care to see the leader taken out,,,especially the way larson did it ,,,,, There is NO ROOM for racing that way ,,,, This kid has a lot to learn,,,,, And as long as people phrase him for what happened ,,,,,, and the way he did this,,,,,This kid is not going to stand a chance as a well groomed,,,, Professional Driver,,,,, this kid is young enough to learn from right and wrong,,,,,, Going for the win is one thing,,,, but winning the race with finesse,,,, with out taking out any one ,,, is some thing to be proud of,,,,,,, NASCAR has there head up there ASS,,, they let this happen to up there ratings on this short track Bull shit,,, what happened to SAFTY first,,,,, OH,,,, BUT in the CUP race ,,,, where there is a great race going on,,,,, a car brushes the wall,,, but keep on going,,,,,, YELLOW,,,,,YELLOW,,,,, Check for DEBRIS on the track,,,,, NASCAR YELLOW<<<<< If one of there officials " FART " ,,,,,,,, YELLOW ,,,,, if a car is upside down,,, the driver is not moving,, and the car is on fire,,,,, it still takes NASCAR one and a half laps to put the RED out,,,,, Back to larson,,, this kid has done good,,, but there pushing him to hard,,, to fast,,, He needs to earn the respect from his fellow drivers and race teams as a respected driver,,,,,,, other than a reputation as a driver ,,,, I was going for the win,,,, SORRY ABOUT THAT DUDE,,, you were in my way,,,,,, you don't drive this way in open wheel,, or you will end up out side the track looking back in,,,,,,, enough of this ,,, race clean,,, or stay home,,,,,,,,, ZZ

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Well BUSHEY,,,, being ,, you are involved in this new organization ,,,,,URA,, It will be Inserting to see how your URA Officials will handle the call when the 2nd place car takes out the leader any time during the race ,,,,, not to mention coming down for the checkered flags,,,,,, any one that is involved with racing ,,, stock cars ,,, open wheel ,,,,,, do not care to see the leader taken out,,,especially the way larson did it ,,,,, There is NO ROOM for racing that way ,,,, This kid has a lot to learn,,,,, And as long as people phrase him for what happened ,,,,,, and the way he did this,,,,,This kid is not going to stand a chance as a well groomed,,,, Professional Driver,,,,, this kid is young enough to learn from right and wrong,,,,,, Going for the win is one thing,,,, but winning the race with finesse,,,, with out taking out any one ,,, is some thing to be proud of,,,,,,, NASCAR has there head up there ASS,,, they let this happen to up there ratings on this short track Bull shit,,, what happened to SAFTY first,,,,, OH,,,, BUT in the CUP race ,,,, where there is a great race going on,,,,, a car brushes the wall,,, but keep on going,,,,,, YELLOW,,,,,YELLOW,,,,, Check for DEBRIS on the track,,,,, NASCAR YELLOW<<<<< If one of there officials " FART " ,,,,,,,, YELLOW ,,,,, if a car is upside down,,, the driver is not moving,, and the car is on fire,,,,, it still takes NASCAR one and a half laps to put the RED out,,,,, Back to larson,,, this kid has done good,,, but there pushing him to hard,,, to fast,,, He needs to earn the respect from his fellow drivers and race teams as a respected driver,,,,,,, other than a reputation as a driver ,,,, I was going for the win,,,, SORRY ABOUT THAT DUDE,,, you were in my way,,,,,, you don't drive this way in open wheel,, or you will end up out side the track looking back in,,,,,,, enough of this ,,, race clean,,, or stay home,,,,,,,,, ZZ


I've kinda already gone on a bit too much about this already, but I do want to point out that I agree with you on one thing...that this type of "spin to win" approach will NOT work in open wheel cars on dirt. I kinda assumed that was clear in my rant above. I mentioned that if this were on the superspeedway, it would be different from a safety perspective. Same is true with open wheel...it is an entirely different situation with an entirely different requirement for rules enforcement....in my humble opinion.

Anyway, as far as the URA...yes, I am part of the newly formed Team, and honored to be involved. But I am a race car fan first and foremost. The URA Team embraces that...we're all just a group of sprint car and midget fans. But I am confident that rough driving in sprints & midgets will NOT be tolerated by our officials. We've got a great group of people that are racers themselves have been assigned those duties for that exact reason. My job is to sit back and call it like I see it...then share it again afterwords with you guys!

Thanks for sharing your opinion...I don't hold that against anyone!


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Posted By: Nose 2 Tail on February 21 2013 at 03:05:00 PM
Well BUSHEY,,,, being ,, you are involved in this new organization ,,,,,URA,, It will be Inserting to see how your URA Officials will handle the call when the 2nd place car takes out the leader any time during the race ,,,,, not to mention coming down for the checkered flags,,,,,, any one that is involved with racing ,,, stock cars ,,, open wheel ,,,,,, do not care to see the leader taken out,,,especially the way larson did it ,,,,, There is NO ROOM for racing that way ,,,, This kid has a lot to learn,,,,, And as long as people phrase him for what happened ,,,,,, and the way he did this,,,,,This kid is not going to stand a chance as a well groomed,,,, Professional Driver,,,,, this kid is young enough to learn from right and wrong,,,,,, Going for the win is one thing,,,, but winning the race with finesse,,,, with out taking out any one ,,, is some thing to be proud of,,,,,,, NASCAR has there head up there ASS,,, they let this happen to up there ratings on this short track Bull shit,,, what happened to SAFTY first,,,,, OH,,,, BUT in the CUP race ,,,, where there is a great race going on,,,,, a car brushes the wall,,, but keep on going,,,,,, YELLOW,,,,,YELLOW,,,,, Check for DEBRIS on the track,,,,, NASCAR YELLOW<<<<< If one of there officials " FART " ,,,,,,,, YELLOW ,,,,, if a car is upside down,,, the driver is not moving,, and the car is on fire,,,,, it still takes NASCAR one and a half laps to put the RED out,,,,, Back to larson,,, this kid has done good,,, but there pushing him to hard,,, to fast,,, He needs to earn the respect from his fellow drivers and race teams as a respected driver,,,,,,, other than a reputation as a driver ,,,, I was going for the win,,,, SORRY ABOUT THAT DUDE,,, you were in my way,,,,,, you don't drive this way in open wheel,, or you will end up out side the track looking back in,,,,,,, enough of this ,,, race clean,,, or stay home,,,,,,,,, ZZ


You must've missed the last 20 years or so of Martinsville or Bristol. Cheap shots and spin 'em to win 'em is the story of those races. Falk said himself that he was trying to jam up Larson by riding the brakes and that when Larson bumped him he started spinning his own wheels and couldnt recover which is why HE got loose to the point that Larson drove through him. What exactly would the proper remedy have been if Larson had bumped him only the first time and then what stopped and chose to not to drive for the win?

The air head announcers who vilified Larson kept saying that the first bump was OK but to drive hard for the win isnt? What the hell kind of illogic is that? I say if bumping and banging is bad then its always bad there should be no grey area in that situation either its ok or its not. Personally I think the hillbillys were just bent out of shape that this talented open wheel kid from northern California keeps showing them up.

I dont understand what the controversy is all about in this deal. I've seen far worst lack of respect for life and limb in open wheel ranks over the years where guys literally were physically hurt bad. Larson's reputation in the real racing ranks (open wheel dirt) is one of a guy you can trust to race you clean. Thats all that matters.


Cheers!

henry chinaski
February 21, 2013 at 05:23:54 PM
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Posted By: Doug Bushey on February 21 2013 at 10:27:03 AM

My 2 cents:

Was the race event not called the "BATTLE at the Beach"? Kyle went to do battle, and did exactly what each and every one of you would have done given the same opportunity, which is TRY TO WIN. Shame on him? Is he not a race car driver?

That is what he is paid to do.

That is what Nascar wants to see happen for the sake of ratings.

That is what the majority of the Nascar fans come to see...excitement.

Imagine if Kyle didn't attempt that last ditched move...would ANYONE be talking about that race today?

C'mon guys...seriously...think about this for a minute. For taking the chance, Kyle received another WIN on the resume and in the record books, as well as the winner's share of the purse, a trophy, and bragging rights.

What did he have to lose? No points lost. No money lost. Didn't completely destroy the car. Didn't burn any bridges with the car owner. I guess he may have lost the respect of some "fans". But before you're so quick to judge, remember that this is a race to the checkered flag. 2nd place is the first loser!

Do we want races to be tea parties amongst friends that end in a group hug? Heck no!

Still not convinced you'd do any different? Here's something else to think about. How many times have we seen innocent fans hurt at sporting events trying to catch fly balls or free T-shirts? Do we crucify the guy who steps on little kids trying to gain something for his own kid? Usually the focus goes to the victim. I've never heard any reporter say that the guy that caused the injury was a horrible fan.

Why should we lose respect for someone who is doing everything he can to win the prize?

This wasn't the superspeedway, where Kyle could have hurt someone. This was good racing. His move was calculated. This was a product of the environment that Nascar created for your entertainment. They got exactly what they wanted. No one is bashing the other two winners from the following night...who did the EXACT SAME THING to win!

If you saw $100 bill floating on a busy sidewalk....would you patiently stand and watch it blow away because you didn't want to accidentally bump into a passerby?

I don't think so.

So why bash ANY racer who had a $15,000 carrot dangling right in front of them?

It wasn't pretty...that's for sure. Kyle was immediately on Twitter saying that it wasn't the most proud moment of his racing career, or his first choice in how to get a "W". But the fact is, it made the race exciting and gave us something to talk about.

Even C.E. Falk said during his post-race interview that Kyle did exactly what he needed to do...and he understood because he would have done the same thing...because he is a racer. I applaud the kid for his sportsmanship...handled it like a true veteran and gentleman!

Kyle had never sat in this car before, or driven on this track before, or raced the majority of these guys before, but still managed to be in contention to win at the end. Why isn't the focus on that?

Okay, I'm done...let the bashing resume...

(I say as I lay down my huge spoon, believing that the pot has been sufficiently stirred by now)

 



Great post! That sums it up nicely.



Cheers!



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